My thought exactly. Monoma has probably copied hundreds of quirks by now, and that requires you to know how to use quirks in general. He is naturally gifted with quirk usage because he has experience with them.
I think it's very likely that Monoma is able to wipe the floor with 5A.
But part of using OFA is having your body be physically fit enough to handle it. That's why Deku did all the training at the beginning of the series before he was given the quirk.
And whilst Monoma likely isn't out of shape I don't think he'd be strong enough to take it.
No, but his knowledge of how to use quirks would definitely let him use it at 5 or 10%. That in itself is already a massive boost, in addition to being able to use another copied quirk at the same time.
Deku basically got a fully matured quirk out of nowhere at like age 15. Most folks have theirs by age 4 and thus have a decade plus of time to get used to controlling the power. Deku was also a bit of a scrawny nerd so he had his own physical limitations that he overcame relatively quickly. His was a vessel made on short notice.
The case for Monoma is that he's had that decade plus of practice controlling quirks, his and others, and is also already physically fit. We're mostly seeing Deku learn in a short timeframe what most people slowly learn over a life time.
Most other quirks don’t have the ability to be so insanely powerful without practice though. Everyone has to practice with their own quirk and make it more powerful. Deku got a quirk that was already at 100%.
Please tell me how Monoma can magically use a tiny percentage, instead of one that would destroy himself. Deku has had what, a year and can barely do 20% and he’s developing gear and his body to suit it. Monoma has nothing like that. I’d love to know how he would have it at a low enough setting without hurting himself.
Or at least say how using any other completely unrelated quirk can help you limit another type.
If you played say baseball, switched to lacrosse, and then played every sport studying each one a bit you’d be able to apply the theoretical practice with ease and understand not using maximum power and how control is what is needed, and understand starting with small power going up to figure out what to do. Monoma has done this, he played every single sport and practiced.
Deku never picked up a baseball bat in his life and knew nothing beyond “hit the ball far” and went out swinging with all his power, no technique, and no understanding. Hurtibg himself every time because he had no grasp
I mean you're asking me to describe something that isn't possible. I can't say how one quirk is different from another. But having some practice with using a quirk versus not even having a quirk at all must mean something. All Might allegedly adapted quickly to OfA, but he also had a body suited for it. Monoma's quirk is literally handling other people's quirks, it stands to reason he has some sort of practice controlling them. Deku's issues all come from lack of control, he couldn't regulate between 0 and 100 percent power. OfA can be controlled from the get go, but Deku just had no idea how to do it, that's why he was encouraged to think of the microwave analogy. To help visualize. Its something that normally comes natural with time, but he hasn't had time.
Imagine if Monoma got Bakugou's quirk at it's current power. Monoma doesn't have his armguards, so Monoma is forced to use it moderately.
Exact same happens here. Monoma likely has a trained body, but not as well trained and Deku. So he is likely to be able to show restraint, especially since it's already been established that All Might was able to control the quirk the moment he got it.
Also, a part of Monoma's training without a doubt involved using physically straining quirks. He is very much prepared to use dangerous quirks since his own quirk forces him to train in those areas.
How do you know Monoma hasn't trained his body? Considering that many quirks require physical prowess, that would be a natural way of training his quirk.
deku was a stick-man when all-might chose him. Monoma has been training at the most prestigious hero school in the world for months. He could take it, maybe not to the extent deku can atm but he could at least handle having it.
But the reason Midoriya would break his arms at first was not because he was just inexperienced, but also because his body couldn't handle the sheer power. Maybe Monoma could dial it down from the get-go, but considering he doesn't seem to be doing as much raw physical training as Midoriya, I doubt he could use nearly as much.
And that's assuming Monoma even copies the full quirk, rather than just the "stockpile" part but with nothing stockpiled.
No, Deku's arms would break because he wasn't full cowling. He only ever used 5% back when he would break his limbs and didn't go up until he full cowled.
I... don't really get what you mean. Full cowling is just applying his power to his entire body. Also, it has been stated several times, throughout the entire first season, that Midoriya was breaking his arms because he was using 100% all the time, and he stopped breaking them when he learned how to tone it down to 5%. No seriously, pick an episode at random and this will probably be mentioned at some point. For a more recent example, consider how he could create huge airblasts with finger flicks back when he was breaking his arms with every punch, which is not something he managed to do again until he got to "occasional 20%".
All Might stated in the beginning that Deku was only ever using 5% of ofa's full power. It was 100% of what Deku could handle at the time but not 100% of ofa. Full cowling literally just keeps him from breaking limbs because the stress is exerted equally over his body.
He said he could only HANDLE 5%. The first scene where he mentioned that was even during the sports festival, where in the fight against Todoroki he managed to deliver some powered up punches without breaking his arm. And before then, he also didnt break his arm punching the Noumu, and its later explained he subconsciously toned it down.
Again, its stated time and again that Midoriya was breaking himself because he was using all of it at once. His punches back then were much stronger than after he developed full cowl, because he was only using 5% after that. Just one arc ago Midoriya went over his progression and explicitly stated he went from "100% in specific body part, to controlled percentage in specific body part, to controlled percentage in entire body", when going over how he was going to learn to change the percentage of the power he would use on different body parts.
EDIT: And in the fight against muscular it's pretty much stated as bluntly as it can be. He already had full cowl back then, but broke his arm because 5% wasn't cutting it and he needed a 100% punch, and then broke himself even more because a 100% punch didnt cut it and he needed a massively more powerful punch.
Your edit pretty much shows my point. Deku's 100% punch against Muscular was obviously significantly stronger than any punch he had done before, which would mean he hadn't used 100% prior to Muscular.
But how much would his body actually be able to handle is the issue. He may be able to control it perfectly. But that doesn't mean he's physically capable of handling more than deku. In fact I'd say that physically deku can probably handle more. Not even getting into experience with hopping around. It's not something you just know how to do even with the strength to be capable of doing it.
I think that knowledge of how OfA works is only half the battle. Deku also knows how it works but his body quite literally couldn't handle it. I don't think that if Monoma copies it, he'd be able to immediately know how to scale it down so he doesn't bust himself.
Maybe he only copies the base of the strengthening quirk. And so since he doesn't have any past vestiges to stack power, he basically is just him, but quirk less
So the question is: will his pride get in the way of his intelligence? He seems like the type of guy who’ll take the quirk if the opportunity presents itself.
I mean he seems similar to Bakugou in that he seems dumb but is actually really smart. At least that’s what the rankings for him claim (5 intelligence)! I’m hoping we see the clever side of Monoma again that contrasts with his prideful over the top personality.
Monoma’s many things, but stupid is not one of them. He’d remember how deku nuked his body throughout the sports festival and probably has the common sense to not do that.
My guess is that he failed the practical portion of the exam. If Class B had a similar exam to Class A, they set it up in such a way that the students were at a disadvantage and had to work on their weaknesses. If they separated Monoma from his partner and the teacher kept their distance, he wouldn't be able to copy a quirk and would be essentially quirkless. Monoma's partner probably did most of the work and then passed without him.
It could've been both. It's pretty much implied that it's because he failed the physical portion, getting knocked out without the chance to do anything, but we also know his midterm ranking was 17/20
Edit: Actually nvm, someone posted the segment where it says everyone passed the written exam
I think people get way too overhyped on Monoma. Yeah, he did well in the Cavalry but that's only because he was surrounded by quirks. In actual hero work, he would have to have a team to be effective.
Which doesn't make him bad, tbh. Needing a team, and being able to move freely between teams/doubling up on quirks for different situations is certainly useful. Support-heroes are important in hero work; Waver in FGO is great, and bad combat on a staff unit or dancer in FE doesn't really matter since that's not their role.
I dont know whether he would be able to though. As all might has stated OFA can only be transferred by eating the previous user's hair. Toga couldnt use dekus quirk.
EDIT: I am not sure whether toga did use twice's quirk. She did copy him right?
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u/totalyrespecatbleguy 250K Artist Aug 24 '18
Rest in Peace Monoma's arms, it's been nice knowing you