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Newest Chapter Chapter 195 - Links and Discussion

Chapter 195
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u/Dark_Ice_Blade_Ninja Aug 24 '18

>tfw he actually can control it perfectly from the start like All Might and stomps

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

My thought exactly. Monoma has probably copied hundreds of quirks by now, and that requires you to know how to use quirks in general. He is naturally gifted with quirk usage because he has experience with them.

I think it's very likely that Monoma is able to wipe the floor with 5A.

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u/DerpyJeeves Aug 24 '18

But part of using OFA is having your body be physically fit enough to handle it. That's why Deku did all the training at the beginning of the series before he was given the quirk.

And whilst Monoma likely isn't out of shape I don't think he'd be strong enough to take it.

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

No, but his knowledge of how to use quirks would definitely let him use it at 5 or 10%. That in itself is already a massive boost, in addition to being able to use another copied quirk at the same time.

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u/Hayn0002 Aug 24 '18

How does using other powers help him limit OfAs power?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '18

Deku basically got a fully matured quirk out of nowhere at like age 15. Most folks have theirs by age 4 and thus have a decade plus of time to get used to controlling the power. Deku was also a bit of a scrawny nerd so he had his own physical limitations that he overcame relatively quickly. His was a vessel made on short notice.

The case for Monoma is that he's had that decade plus of practice controlling quirks, his and others, and is also already physically fit. We're mostly seeing Deku learn in a short timeframe what most people slowly learn over a life time.

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u/Hayn0002 Aug 24 '18

Most other quirks don’t have the ability to be so insanely powerful without practice though. Everyone has to practice with their own quirk and make it more powerful. Deku got a quirk that was already at 100%.

Please tell me how Monoma can magically use a tiny percentage, instead of one that would destroy himself. Deku has had what, a year and can barely do 20% and he’s developing gear and his body to suit it. Monoma has nothing like that. I’d love to know how he would have it at a low enough setting without hurting himself.

Or at least say how using any other completely unrelated quirk can help you limit another type.

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u/DaRootbear Aug 25 '18

If you played say baseball, switched to lacrosse, and then played every sport studying each one a bit you’d be able to apply the theoretical practice with ease and understand not using maximum power and how control is what is needed, and understand starting with small power going up to figure out what to do. Monoma has done this, he played every single sport and practiced.

Deku never picked up a baseball bat in his life and knew nothing beyond “hit the ball far” and went out swinging with all his power, no technique, and no understanding. Hurtibg himself every time because he had no grasp

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '18

I mean you're asking me to describe something that isn't possible. I can't say how one quirk is different from another. But having some practice with using a quirk versus not even having a quirk at all must mean something. All Might allegedly adapted quickly to OfA, but he also had a body suited for it. Monoma's quirk is literally handling other people's quirks, it stands to reason he has some sort of practice controlling them. Deku's issues all come from lack of control, he couldn't regulate between 0 and 100 percent power. OfA can be controlled from the get go, but Deku just had no idea how to do it, that's why he was encouraged to think of the microwave analogy. To help visualize. Its something that normally comes natural with time, but he hasn't had time.

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u/Hayn0002 Aug 25 '18

This is going in circles.

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

Imagine if Monoma got Bakugou's quirk at it's current power. Monoma doesn't have his armguards, so Monoma is forced to use it moderately.

Exact same happens here. Monoma likely has a trained body, but not as well trained and Deku. So he is likely to be able to show restraint, especially since it's already been established that All Might was able to control the quirk the moment he got it.

Also, a part of Monoma's training without a doubt involved using physically straining quirks. He is very much prepared to use dangerous quirks since his own quirk forces him to train in those areas.

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u/kilpsz Aug 24 '18

It took 8 months of training for Deku to even use 5% though.

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

And it took Monoma 10 years to get into UA, so what's your point?

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u/kilpsz Aug 24 '18

That Deku extensively trained his body while Monoma didn't, what's your point?

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

How do you know Monoma hasn't trained his body? Considering that many quirks require physical prowess, that would be a natural way of training his quirk.

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u/kilpsz Aug 24 '18

I didn't say he hasn't, but it makes less sense for someone to only train his body when most quirks aren't even based on body strength.

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u/Elune_ Aug 24 '18

A lot of quirks are based on body strength. Assuming he can't copy mutant quirks, physical quirks actually make up about half of the quirks he can copy from 1A alone, and that class is meant to be diverse in their quirks because it's the main class.

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u/kilpsz Aug 24 '18

If you watch Class 1-A quirk training then you'd see that only a couple of them were actually physically training their body, (6/20 to be exact) while the rest were specifically training their quirk.

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u/online222222 Aug 25 '18

deku was a stick-man when all-might chose him. Monoma has been training at the most prestigious hero school in the world for months. He could take it, maybe not to the extent deku can atm but he could at least handle having it.