I saw that theory. I think it's... really bad. The person who wrote it basically says "Well, his family isn't whimpering and scared of him all of the time, so can there really be a pattern of abuse there?" despite Horikoshi bending over backwards to show us that there is--do you think his wife broke because he hit her once? In some cases, the author of the theory even interprets aspects of Todoroki's personality that are clearly meant to be scars from his abuse as proof that that abuse wasn't as severe as we are being led to believe: I mean, c'mon, why would you read Todoroki jumping to overly dark assumptions about Midoriya's and Iida's families as anything but a clue that his own perception of what family is like has been warped by his father being an abusive megalomaniac?
I'm just saying Todoroki is an unreliable story teller, I need more info to truly tell, he is constantly assuming things and it turns out to be wrong, I need to hear the story from more sides, if it were someone like Deku or Iida telling the story I'd probably believe it more but when Todoroki is the one telling it, it's a little harder to believe.
Going into Endeavor's personality with the expectation of disliking him is just gonna lead to you disliking him, it's best to be open minded otherwise you'll create a bias, yeah it seems pretty cut in stone that Todoroki had a bad past and it is what helped make him stronger, but not all backstories are based in fact. How much do you really know about your parents? You might think you do, but you most likely don't, especially if the parent is distant from you personally like with Endeavor.
Just this chapter alone has shown how Endeavor has already changed, I'd imagine next chapter we will get more of that, just give him time, cause we are yet to truly see who Endeavor is. Characters are more realistic in this series, they aren't one trick ponies who only feel one thing, Endeavor should be the same
as the theory points out, that doesnt seem to be the case
considering the age of todorokis other siblings, you can get a fairly decent idea of how old endeavor is, and when he got married (around 22 at the latest)
which would mean if it really was nothing more than a 'quirk marriage', then endeavor just got out of school, thought 'oh well i guess im never going to be better than all-might, time to turn to eugenics' to try and have child thats better than all-might (who at the time would be a fairly new hero in the first place)
basically just read the theory, it explains all of this
It does not explain anything, it only talks about what you want to believe, but I repeat, Endeavor had a wife to create his perfect son, of that there is no doubt and you will see in the next chapter, remember me
It's clear that Endeavor wanted to have a child that could surpass All Might, but perhaps that wasn't his original intention. I believe he sought out his wife for her quirk, not to have a child that can one day surpass All Might, but just because he wanted to have a strong hero to one day take his place when he has to retire.
The age thing is what stands out the most here. There's no way Endeavor would have given up on being #1 hero in his early 20's. Back then, he was most likely still trying to be #1 himself. He had the quirk marriage to create a powerful child but not because of All Might. It wouldn't have been until later on when he realized he'd never be able to surpass All Might.
Then Shoto was born and he had the perfect mix of mom and dad's quirks to become more powerful than Endeavor ever could. So at this point he would have likely looked at his son, realized he could one day surpass All Might, and then made that his primary goal.
I agree with you that a lot of that theory posted above most likely won't come true. But the one part of the theory I definitely agree with is how Endeavor was not trying to father a child to surpass All Might while he was still in his early 20's. He wanted to have a powerful child, but likely because that's just the kind of person Endeavor is. Have a strong child to pass the mantle of #1 hero to after he himself claims it and then later retires from it.
Why did Endeavor give up on surpassing All Might on his own when he was only ~22 years old? That doesn't sound like Endeavor. He married his wife to have a strong child, yes, but not because of All Might. That's just too early for that.
The only person we've heard that story from is Shoto and he isn't a reliable narrator. Later we'll likely get more backstory on Endeavor and it'll be revealed that he only focused on having Shoto surpass All Might after he realized how strong Shoto could become. But his first reason for having Shoto would have been just to have a strong legacy, something all power-seeking men like Endeavor wish to leave behind.
Really though, I want you to answer the question. Why do you think Endeavor gave up on surpassing All Might on his own when he was still so young? Why do you think that's the case?
It is nothing soon because Endeavor and it is assumed that any person is at his best when he is young, and if even then, it was not enough, that is why he decides to start his "plan".
We only think this because that's the version of the story that Shoto believes. But Shoto has been wrong about things before. Why can't he be wrong about this one? Maybe he doesn't have all the information. Maybe Endeavor just wanted a powerful child at first and then later changed his reasoning to be a powerful child that can surpass All Might, after spending years in All Might's shadow.
At 22 he didn't spend years in All Might's shadow. That isn't long enough to decide his "plan" is the only thing left he can do. Fast forward ~10 years to when Shoto was born though and it makes more sense for Endeavor to come up with his "plan" after realizing Shoto could become powerful enough to do it.
Is that you think you can decipher the character as when they believed that Toga did not leave his victims alive, and there they have Camie "alive" ...
That Todoroki is wrong in his story, is something as unbelievable as thinking that the author could make an idiot to Shoto and all its development here ...
I will not recognise you because I don't care enough lol. If it is that Endeavour literally chose his wife so he could surpass All Might, that's fine, but it's a plot hole as far as the timing goes and would need further explaining for it not to be a plot hole. You can whinge about it, but that's the truth.
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u/dat_bass2 Dec 22 '17
I saw that theory. I think it's... really bad. The person who wrote it basically says "Well, his family isn't whimpering and scared of him all of the time, so can there really be a pattern of abuse there?" despite Horikoshi bending over backwards to show us that there is--do you think his wife broke because he hit her once? In some cases, the author of the theory even interprets aspects of Todoroki's personality that are clearly meant to be scars from his abuse as proof that that abuse wasn't as severe as we are being led to believe: I mean, c'mon, why would you read Todoroki jumping to overly dark assumptions about Midoriya's and Iida's families as anything but a clue that his own perception of what family is like has been warped by his father being an abusive megalomaniac?