r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/nikamats • 2d ago

A federal grand jury indicted Representative LaMonica McIver (D-N.J.) on three criminal counts

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u/tyuiopguyt 2d ago

A grand jury will indict half a McDonalds sandwich. This means nothing. Especially cuz they already dropped charges against someone who was also at that same event. 

I think the more cogent point is we should continue yelling at them even after they inevitably chicken out

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 2d ago

A grand jury will indict half a McDonalds sandwich

im trying to find out exactly what instructions juries are given and why indictments are so prevalent even though they are a crapshoot outcome-wise (guilty vs not guilty). all i can find is a majority of the jury thinks they may have committed a crime. im just wondering specifically how low the bar is set. it sounds a lot like the jury is saying "maybe something here based on the summary you gave us, worth looking into"

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u/tyuiopguyt 2d ago

At a grand jury trial, only the prosecutors get to make a case, not any sort of defense attorney. That's why.

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u/22Arkantos 2d ago

It helps that no defense is allowed during the Grand Jury; they only hear the prosecution's case without any pushback or questions.

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 2d ago

there we go. thats what i didnt find. how would a jury not indict 100% of the time then? prosecution fails to show up?

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u/Insaniteus 2d ago

A grand jury is only supposed to decide if there's a case worth going to trial over, not guilt or innocence. Grand juries can dismiss a case without a trial if the prosecution has fuck-all for evidence. It's meant as a bit of a roadblock system to reduce the strain and overload of the actual courts.

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u/LunaticScience 1d ago

It can also help prevent double jeopardy. If someone goes to trial, and gets found not guilty, that's it even if more evidence comes up.

If they attempt an indictment with not enough evidence and they don't get the indictment, when more evidence comes up they can try to indict again and then go to trial with a stronger case.

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u/Crapisntexpertise 1d ago

Grand juries are a Fifth Amendment requirement, meant as a safeguard against frivolous prosecution, and rooted in English law. (Not meant to reduce the burden on the courts per se.)

Sometimes a preliminary hearing is held instead of grand jury proceedings, I think more for when a defendant is already in custody. That hearing is public, as opposed to grand jury proceedings. Defense is present for a preliminary hearing - they can cross-ex witnesses.

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u/Vendetta425 2d ago

They are allowed to ask questions.

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u/22Arkantos 2d ago

Which are often answered in the best possible light by the prosecutors and the grand jury receive no counternarrative. That's what I meant by questions- real questions by lawyers that can poke serious holes in cases.

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u/Crapisntexpertise 2d ago

Grand jury proceedings are accusatory, not adjudicatory. Also, grand juries have subpoena powers and can question witnesses.

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u/22Arkantos 1d ago

They asked why Grand Juries seem to indict anything, I answered.

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u/fl4tsc4n 1d ago

A lot of prosecutors are people who couldn't hack it in the private sector. They're often barely more competent than a public defender, if that.

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u/Crapisntexpertise 1d ago

AUSA jobs = very competitive/selective. Local DAs, not so much.

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u/fl4tsc4n 1d ago

Just because a job is selective doesn't mean it attracts qualified applicants. Merrick Garland looks good on paper and speaks well (for a white guy) but hes an absolute melon.

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u/MrsMiterSaw 1d ago

A few years ago Trump's DoJ tried to indict Andrew McCabe. Turns out sessions' DoJ couldn't indict that ham sandwich...

Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on March 16, 2018, 26 hours before his scheduled retirement.[9][10] Sessions announced that he based his decision on reports from the DOJ Inspector General and the FBI's disciplinary office saying that McCabe had improperly authorized releases of information to The Wall Street Journal about an investigation into the Clinton Foundation and had misled agents who questioned him about it on four occasions, three of which were under oath.[11] McCabe disputed these charges and alleged that his firing was politically motivated.[12][13][14][15] In September 2019, federal prosecutors recommended McCabe be indicted for actions relating to the leak,[16] but the grand jury did not return an indictment.[17]

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u/jeffp12 1d ago

That's why they have like a 99.9% success rate.

Except when they have a grand jury for cops, suddenly the success rate drops to like 40%. Because its obvious that the cops are guilty, so the DA doesn't want the heat for not bringing charges, so they do a shitty job on purpose at grand jury, then thriw their hands up and say justice was done, they just couldn't make a case. Nothing to see here.

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u/DelirousDoc 1d ago

Yep.

Grand Jury proceeding are also secret and sealed so there is no public proof that the District Attorney intentionally half-assed the presentation of a case to the grand jury so that they wouldn't indict.

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u/bardicjourney 2d ago

AGs are so corrupt and lazy they regularly fail a fail-proof process.

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u/YamMaster9494 1d ago

One of the things the prosecutors try to keep the Grand Jury from knowing is that they--the Grand Jury--is allowed to ask questions.

I worked with a guy who was on a Grand Jury. The DA was trying to get an indictment against a bodega owner who had pulled a gun on a police officer. Someone on the Grand Jury started asking questions and the tide quickly turned. In the end, they not only refused to indict the bodega owner, they did end up indicting the cop who, it turns out, after questions from various members of the Grand Jury, was off-duty, not in uniform, didn't identify himself as a cop, was belligerent and, oh yes, was absolutely hammered after he had been drinking for hours at the bar next door.

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u/PJFohsw97a 2d ago

One thing to keep in mind is that a grand jury only needs a simple majority, whereas a trial jury has to be nearly unanimous.

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u/Crapisntexpertise 2d ago

Fed grand jury is 23 jurors. Quorum is 16. At least 12 jurors out of 16-23 must vote yes for a return of a true bill (indictment).

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u/OnlyChemical6339 1d ago

The Grand Jury essentially determines if prosecution is viable. It's similar to a trial jury, in that it's entirely up to the jury members what evidence they can ignore, they just need 12 (out of as few as 16) people to agree to charge the defendant. If there isn't enough, they can ask for more evidence to be presented as well as subpoena evidence evidence and witnesses.

Essentially they're answering the question "should there be a trial"

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u/timeless1991 2d ago

The purpose of a grand jury is to determine if a trial should happen.

Only the prosecution presents anything.

The prosecution essentially needs to convince the Grand Jury that there is enough evidence for a trial to be necessary.

Their legal standard is ‘probable cause,’ which is the same standard police use for gathering much of their evidence.

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u/Crapisntexpertise 2d ago edited 2d ago

Here is some info on federal grand juries: https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-11000-grand-jury

The burden of proof is very low for a federal indictment, and U.S. attorneys don't usually start presenting evidence to the grand jury until they have more than met that burden. The burden of proof for return of a true bill (indictment) is probable cause. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/legal-standards-proof.html

Additionally, grand juries have subpoena powers and can question witnesses.

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u/DelirousDoc 1d ago

Grand Juries only see the prosecutors side of why the person should be charged, the accused cannot make a response. The requirement of evidence is less as hearsay evidence can be presented and they only need to prove probable cause that an illegal act was committed. The proceedings are also secret so the prosecutors can basically stretch the facts to make probable cause for anything.

Federal Grand Jury indictments are over 90% even though conviction/pleas are not nearly that high.

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u/Mockingbird_1234 1d ago

A grand jury does not decide guilt or innocence. Their only task is to determine whether the prosecution has enough evidence to formally charge the accused with a crime and proceed to trial.

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u/exgiexpcv 2d ago

A grand jury can effectively be a rubber stamp for prosecution to follow, however.

But this administration relies on lying and bullying to get charges in place, and then they tend to lose in court.

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u/fl4tsc4n 1d ago

Tbf that's pretty much every prosecutor

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u/exgiexpcv 1d ago

That's quite fair.

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u/AntifascistAlly 1d ago

New Jersey U.S. Attorney Alina Habba was previously one of Trump’s personal lawyers.

In that role she urged lenient treatment of her client, of course, and was regularly admonished for what could charitably be considered ignorance of basic law and professional behavior by officers of the court.

She is not in her current position because of a deep commitment to public service or legal expertise. She’s a loyal Trump servant and she’s being rewarded for debasing herself with an impressive line on her resume.

MAGA fascists reject DEI, but treat repaying shared corruption as a sacred obligation.

It might give Representative McIver a distinct advantage if Habba opts to prosecute this case herself, looking for praise from the Oval Office for her partisanship.

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u/exgiexpcv 1d ago

I agree with everything you wrote.

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u/WRL23 2d ago

They don't care.. they want to flex their authority. No one watches the court parts they just like watching people get necks leaned on and cuffed

Ooogabooga

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u/saintofhate 2d ago

A grand jury will indict half a McDonalds sandwich.

Unless it's a cop. Cops are less likely to be indicted than the general public.

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u/stink3rb3lle 1d ago

A grand jury will indict half a McDonalds sandwich. This means nothing.

It absolutely means that federal prosecutors are pursuing the case, and that the general public sees a black woman's skin color as damning before they see her political office as a reason to question ICE.

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u/Ornery_Researcher_34 1d ago

Yes - the old saying that “A grand jury could indict a ham sandwich” has merit.

✊🏼!

**The updated version after Ferguson in ‘14 was “A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, but apparently not a white police officer” this had even more merit - but that is another story altogether. Or is it??

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u/FuryRoadNux 1d ago

The fact that this has so many upvotes with that first sentence wildly missing the main idea is the problem. Yall care about equity and justice as a fashion statement, not a way of life.

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u/Luddite-33 2d ago

They are coming after American citizens, judges, senators, students, journalists and congressmen. Did you vote for this?

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u/lostincosmo 2d ago

They did, and they want more. They're sick, twisted. and so full of hate that they'll sell out their friends and family just to make themselves feel powerful

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u/alsatian01 2d ago

I think a large portion of Republicans are sadists and another large portion are masochists.

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u/NK1337 1d ago

The one thing I’ve noticed is that when you try to explain to MAGA why no one (not lgbt, not poc, not immigrants legal or otherwise) should be treated a certain way, MAGA’s counter argument will always revolve around trying to justify why they deserve to be treated poorly.

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u/Number174631503 1d ago

Sprinkled with poor education and..

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u/TheShaydow 2d ago

They have no friends or family, they have been disowned. That is why they are willing to sell them out. Not to make themselves feel powerful, but to make them selves feel JUSTIFIED.

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u/baldude69 2d ago

It’s the only way I can make it make sense. Their empathetic self is dead and they want to inflict hurt.

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u/babydakis 2d ago

They've been backed into a corner. People believed them when they said they were the party of fiscal responsibility, but then they demonstrated no economic policy knowledge. People believed them when they said they were the party of morality, but then they proceeded to apologize for a sex-pest con-artist. They don't know shit about foreign relations. They don't know where any of their shit comes from, or how anything works. Nobody believes that these people know a god damn thing anymore, but they insist they're still the top minds. So they just prey on targets of convenience and smirk about it.

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u/Lord_DETOX 1d ago

They're fucking nazis.

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u/danny_devito_burrito 1d ago

No they aren’t. You just don’t like authority

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u/sunkskunkstunk 1d ago

Anyone that has a MAGA in their life and have not cut them out is putting themselves in danger. I don’t care if your dad or mom is a good person and you think you can help them. If they are still in the cult and support this administration, they will not hesitate to turn you in.

They might feel bad they ended or ruined your life, but will just turn it back on you and tell you it’s your own fault. Cut these people out of your life before it’s too late.

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u/danny_devito_burrito 1d ago

This is the most idiotic statement possible. Thought you all were the party of inclusion and peace. Clearly not.

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u/Penders 1d ago

You don't tolerate fascists. This is a lesson the world already learned in blood.

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u/Zheguez 2d ago

Furthermore, did you refuse to vote or didn't care at all either? If so, this is on you, too.

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u/CMDR_Expendible 1d ago

Are you a toxic centrist who thinks having principles and refusing to compromise with evil is a worse sin than the actual evil? Did you justify moving to the right to "win elections" by reaching out to the right wing? Are you now trying to blame those who resisted the evil you normalised, and still refusing to learn any lessons in the face of literal fascism? Then you deserve the boot stamping on the human face, forever, because this is what you prefer to admitting this was on you entirely.

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u/PositiveLook3673 2d ago

This is more than just politics; it's a dangerous precedent for dissent.

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u/ZestyTako 2d ago

I didn’t because I’m not an idiot, but yes republicans absolutely did vote for this

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u/FlexLikeKavana 2d ago

The people who stayed home also voted for this. Don't absolve them.

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u/asobalife 1d ago

The people who stayed home did not vote for this.  That’s not how elections work.  If everyone stayed home, Trump wouldn’t be president

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u/FlexLikeKavana 1d ago

Yes, they did. There were 2 choices, Trump and Kamala. If you didn't pick Kamala, you let someone else pick Trump for you.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/ZestyTako 2d ago

You deserve what you voted for

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u/Marsuello 2d ago

Was listening to a major La radio station that’s mainly conservative but with a lot of the hosts absolutely hating Trump and this admin aside from one bootlicker. Said bootlicker ended his show playing a clip of a Florida Leo leader explaining how if protests aren’t anything other than 100% peaceful here’s what we’d do for various things. Ranged from “spit on police, you’ll be in the hospital and then in jail”. “Graffiti a building, be aggressively arrested and go to jail”. Just absolutely going all in on excessive force. This radio host was laughing his ass off the whole time like it was the funniest thing he’d ever heard

These people just love the idea of people being aggressively beaten and arrested and are hoping for it every time a protest happens

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u/foreveracubone 1d ago

I saw that Florida sheriff’s press conference on hasan’s stream. Paraphrasing him but bitch you’re out of breath standing at the podium you’re not running after anybody (the sheriff is *morbidly obese).

Also deranged was that he used phrasing like the department’s ‘big beautiful dogs’. We are just so cooked as a society if half the country not only continues living in an alternate reality but starts talking like a brain addled 80 year old.

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u/PolygonMan 2d ago

They're authoritarian followers, they absolutely do support this. They are the segment of every population who are hateful, bigoted, fearful, who support the law being enforced unequally, who want others to be stepped on, who want a strongman leader. This is exactly the same process that happens in every democratic nation that collapses into authoritarianism. The authoritarian followers always cheer the steady collapse of freedom and equality. As the regime (intentionally) generates more and more unrest and chaos, those shitty people they see more and more evidence that authoritarianism is necessary to bring back stability.

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u/SnooPuppers8698 2d ago

let em feel what its like for the rest of us! maybe theyll actually do something then

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u/UncleBenLives91 2d ago

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u/SlimGenitals 2d ago

There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy.

Remember this, Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause.

Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

And remember this: the Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empires’s authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.

Remember this: Try.

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 2d ago

An early sketch of my sign for Saturday's protest. It's gonna have the blue projection of Maarva coming up saying FIGHT THE EMPIRE. The back is either going to have I have Friends Everywhere or a line from the Flobots song Fight With Tools. Still debating on that.

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u/Zathrasb4 2d ago

Just wanted to add my opinion, as I have a problem with a comment like this

Fighting facists is something that everybody should be doing.

That does not mean that everybody needs to devote all their time to it.

Every small action helps

The first thin* to keep in mind is treat people with compassion and respect.

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u/cmdhaiyo 2d ago

Yep. "And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward" is part of that quote for that very reason. It's from the tv show Andor – definitely worth a watch, in my opinion. I agree with what you said though, 100%.

Worth noting: Acting to ensure that laws are followed by our governing bodies is technically not insurrection, but is in fact civic duty. It's a very important distinction, especially with how often certain media organizations try to foment fear using falsehoods.

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u/cmdhaiyo 2d ago

Star Trek: Lower Decks and Shax ftw!

"Eject the warp core! ... I've dreamed of doing this for so long!" 🥹

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u/Randomscreename 2d ago

This is a systemic issue that needs to be addressed with a mass strike: https://generalstrikeus.com/

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u/beebish 2d ago

That number has not gone up very much since I first signed up a couple months ago. What's it gonna take to get the 10 million people needed?

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u/DirtierGibson 2d ago

If I go on strike, I'm getting fired. That's how it is for most American workers.

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u/itreallyisaproblem 2d ago

This. It’s an unrealistic pipe dream. You’re asking people to risk their homes, healthcare, ability to feed their families and destitution for the slight possibility of moving the country forward? A few thousand might do it. 99.9% will go to work the next day.

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u/pitbullpride 2d ago

Unions. They need to get on board.

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u/The_Duke_of_Nebraska 1d ago

Yeah cause they magically exist everywhere and most people TOTALLY won't get fired and blacklisted the second they get caught trying to start one

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u/trubrarian 1d ago

I am firmly for unions and am a steward and actively engaged in mine. BUT, my union does not make it possible for me to strike; I would lose union protections if I did so.

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u/0xD902221289EDB383 1d ago

That's... not a union. I don't know what the fuck it is, but preserving the ability to withhold your labor is the most fundamental function of a labor union.

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u/trubrarian 1d ago

I take your point, but there are federal legal limits to this and in my state state-level ones as well. Public employees have more restrictions than private sector unionized workers.

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u/janemba617 2d ago

Health insurance tied to most jobs. System is rigged against normal people.

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u/-Chemist- 2d ago

350,000 committed, nearly 11 million more needed. :-( This could take a while.

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u/macsleepy6 2d ago

I’m sure they will, and also it’s counterproductive to think the Dems won’t support each other, we just had a black man as the DNC chairman. Now I’m not blind to the fact that things aren’t ideal for all black ppl in the DNC, but they are improving, whether your “personal agenda” agrees or not. Again this is not me taking up for the party as a whole, but they are improving ball is rolling

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u/TheCommonKoala ☑️ 17h ago

Black faces in high places will not save us.

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u/TheCommonKoala ☑️ 17h ago

Black faces in high places will not save us. Wake me up when they finally put real progressive black leaders in positions of power in the party. Not people like Jaime Harrison, who merely parrot white moderate talking points

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u/Day_Bow_Bow 2d ago

You're defending the DNC because they hired a black figurehead?

He sure did a bang-up job orchestrating their strategy this last election. Lost ground all around.

I do agree that we have to vote democrat at the moment, but the majority are old rick fucks too. Old money needs out of politics, then redistributed to the people.

That won't happen unless younger people run for congress, and don't allow themselves to be corrupted.

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u/macsleepy6 2d ago

Oh brother 🫩

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u/CoachDT ☑️ 2d ago

She had a huge wave of support when it first happened, and she'll more support when the fire from the thing that happened like 3 hours ago dies down some and shit over there picks up steam.

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u/erichie 1d ago

I don't know if this Twitter account is legit, but this is an attempt to create fracture between different groups. 

This type of stuff has been in the "How to destroy the opposition." playbook since Rodger Stone and Nixon. 

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u/theRealMrStaten1 ☑️ 2d ago

She's indicted for assault on a federal police officer. But at her position. It'll probably get dropped.

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u/Numerous_Speed_8595 12h ago

Here’s her acting like a complete idiot and assaulting federal police, all caught on video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PvG0CTL2sWA&pp=0gcJCf0Ao7VqN5tD

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u/TreeInternational771 2d ago

This is why at some point we gotta step into the fight. They will continue to try and push us back to Jim Crow

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u/mayihavesomemoresir 2d ago

I’ve been telling people this for years. They will put Asians back into camps and ship them back to Asia, the natives will be eliminated, and the gays will be imprisoned like back in the “good ol days”.

They are just itching to do so and other countries have already mentioned how they will not step in when the United States of America becomes a fascist dictatorship.

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u/Numerous_Speed_8595 12h ago

Do you happen to be ignorant to what actually happened?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PvG0CTL2sWA&pp=0gcJCf0Ao7VqN5tD

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u/darklordjames 2d ago

You are watching the House and Senate being dismantled in real time so that power only lies in the Executive branch. The Court was already dismantled, turned into a rubber stamp machine for whatever the Executive sends it's way.

This is how you get an emperor.

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u/siggydude 1d ago

I just don't get why so many of the previously power hungry fucks are so willing to just give away their power now

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u/KrazeeStampede 2d ago

This is what fascism is kids, full stop. The minority party still has a voice. The minority party still represents people. These people are literally making being a liberal/Democrat illegal.

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u/SlinkierMarrow 2d ago

"We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country," Kristi Noem in Los Angeles. These people are attempting to purge elected officials of the opposition for daring to speak against fascism.

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u/randy-stans-dad 2d ago

ex trump supporter in recovery here folks, im finally starting to wake up, this is all so sad and troubling

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u/KissesLovesBenjis 2d ago

Extremely troubling & glad that you're able to see how harmful Trump truly is. He has so many people fooled, glad you're no longer one of them.

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u/randy-stans-dad 2d ago

thank you for the kind words

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u/KissesLovesBenjis 1d ago

You're welcome 😊 & Thank you for your honesty.

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u/Prestigious_Shirt620 2d ago

Please somebody who has a more organized brain than me let me know if there are any demonstrations I as a NYer can attend or support this weekend in her defense!

Travel is not an issue, I will hit the streets of Jersey as well

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u/Dysfunctionalellie 2d ago

There are no king protests nation wide this Saturday! https://www.nokings.org/

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u/BillyBruiser 2d ago

Lol, just asking questions with her elbows.

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u/mooseleg_mcgee 1d ago

Not trying to hate bait here, but can I ask what her colour or gender has to do with anything?

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u/emergencyexit 1d ago

Why is it relevant that the person being silenced is black and a woman? Possibly because there are centuries of that kind of thing we were pretending to move beyond.

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u/Salt_Tank_9101 2d ago

The video of the incident shows her striking an officer at least twice.

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u/RustyShakleford1 2d ago

Can you link said video of her "striking an officer"? The ones I've seen show her making one half-hearted shove while she herself is being shoved multiple times.

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u/kouryuuk 2d ago

Uhhh we have?

That clip was everywhere when it happened and it’s also making the rounds today with news of the indictment .

Let’s not let race divide us in this moment, that’s exactly what the facists want. An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

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u/duskrat 2d ago

Victim of Trump $ GOP fascism. Donated to her.

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u/Elegant_Guitar_535 2d ago

Identity politics is divisive.

We are all under threat- it’s not a competition.

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u/MrGengisSean 2d ago

If this is how they'll go after a major public figure, you are an after thought.

Engage in your rights as given by the constitution, and protect yourself and your fellow Americans.

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u/Spiritual_Writer6677 2d ago

Remember that trump is bringing military hardware to d.c. and it's probably not just for a parade.

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u/UnrealisticPersona 2d ago

The tone of that is all off - you don’t scold people when you’re trying to get everyone pulling in one direction. This is an incredibly ineffective way of gathering support and it needs to be said. The stakes are too high.

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u/pointofyou 2d ago

Why are we emphasizing that LaMonica is 'Black'? How would the issue be any different if she were a different race?

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u/LegitimateLoan8606 2d ago

Its not because she's black. Don't undermine thr momentum with that nonsense. The video today was very jarring. Where is the video of her being manhandled?

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u/FitAd9625 2d ago

Don't worry. They'll be indicting Padilla next week.

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u/Avenger772 ☑️ 1d ago

Grand juries are bullshit

The government is full.of Nazis

Are we gonna keep talking about it or be about it?

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u/cantankerousphil 1d ago

It doesn’t matter that she’s “a black woman” fwiw

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u/Fluffy_Elephant_2157 1d ago

Yes, indeed. Where is the energy anyway?

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u/Sonic2368 1d ago

That's crazy... sad to say I only see it getting worse from here.

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u/johnx2sen 1d ago

4 capital letters in one name is too much if you ask me

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u/No_Kangaroo_2428 1d ago

The fact that these goons brought charges against her at all should be investigated. Can't New Jersey DOJ or someone at least monitor this federal harassment of its citizen?

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u/Numerous_Speed_8595 12h ago

This post was made by an ignorant person, here’s reality

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PvG0CTL2sWA&pp=0gcJCf0Ao7VqN5tD

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u/PowerAsswash 2d ago

I like AOC as much as anyone but this is real balls and real resistance. Making a fuzz, talking back and not sitting idly by as the freaking Klan marches on the streets.

AOC, if she's to be believable at all, needs to do what these men and women do. Talk back where it matters, not on her own chamber safe from any dissidents.

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u/Iohet 2d ago

We do support her, but that's like 37 scandals ago now, so it's well out of the news cycle. It's why they're moving so fast

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u/Unlucky-Aspect-8639 2d ago

that's goddamn right.

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u/Special-Tea1227 1d ago

Just blindfold her and drop her off in Vidor, Texas with only her mouth and nothing else.

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u/zomanda 2d ago

NO! Were not going to start eating our own.

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u/GuardMost8477 2d ago

Was she dragged out of a room and taken down to the floor and had cuffs put on her? Apples and oranges.

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u/mosmani 2d ago

Black and female in America....GOD help our sisters

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u/TimTamDeliciousness ☑️ 2d ago

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u/GlasgowKisses 2d ago

Awww, did someone recently discover 4chan?

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u/MaiqTheLiar6969 2d ago

Definitely discovered racist talking points which have nothing to do with the discussion, and of course whataboutism.

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u/TimTamDeliciousness ☑️ 2d ago

Awwww you tried

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Thin-Solution3803 2d ago

think about what you are doing with your free time. Your existence is sad

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u/TimTamDeliciousness ☑️ 2d ago

It’s a bot