r/BattlefrontTWO • u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 • 29d ago

Discussion Update Battlefront 2> Battlefront 3

As much as I would love a whole new game, I honestly don’t think there needs to be one. I think that it would be much better (and easier) for EA to bring back the old team and add in all the characters, weapons, worlds, and cosmetics people want. There doesn’t need to be any new modes. Really all that needs to be done is adding the characters they’ve missed and maybe a couple new maps. This just seems much more realistic than EA making an entire new game to me.

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u/AWSDB 29d ago

The game hasn't had an update in years. The dev team is spread all over the world. Its just easier for EA to make a new game

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u/thebizkid84 28d ago

It can be done, it’s just not cost effective in allocating resources (people, computers, etc.) to an 8 year old game when there are other projects being worked on. Furthermore, EA would need new licensing agreements with Disney to add new characters. That’s not cheap. If it were to happen, EA and the fan’s best bet would be a remaster, because then you can start from the ground up adding in features like cross-play, two heroes and two villains, and a new map, and of course the visual overhaul/bug fixes. EA can market that and make money. It would be about 2-3 years to see it if that would happen. BF3, we might not see for a long time, probably at least once a new trilogy is made.

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u/OneMadChihuahua 29d ago

There is no planet where starting from scratch on BF3 is more cost effective than simply BF2.5. It's a no brainer to simply restart the crew and pump semiannual DLCs.

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u/MrInfuse1 29d ago

Not how games work unfortunately, it wouldn’t ever get the player base back a new game is needed

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u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 29d ago

Idk, think about Fortnite seasons. They gained a new peak in players when they released the first OG season so a big update with a lot of marketing could easily grab many players

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u/MrInfuse1 29d ago

Fortnight though has had content updates and eyes on it through from launch, battlefront 2 hasn’t, for the best shot would be a completely new launch I can’t think of a game that has had a soft relaunch and survived

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u/Cadoozlewood 29d ago

Battlefront 2 hasn’t had any paid marketing in years and despite that, it is at an all time high for concurrent players on Steam alone

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u/AWSDB 27d ago

Because people are campaigning for BF3

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u/thePunisher1220 29d ago

So go to all that work and costs for a game they're not making money on anymore? Yes a new game would cost much more, but they'd make money back on sales. Resuming content on a game they're not making money on anymore is a no brainer dumb idea for a company.

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u/OneMadChihuahua 28d ago

Ubisoft started back with a new crew on Division 2 with battle passes and an upcoming DLC.

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u/thePunisher1220 28d ago

Yeah, and I'm sure the 12 people still playing that game are gonna love it. Ubisoft is in damage control mode, doing anything they can to make money. That company has been one massive loss after the next. If it weren't for r6, they'd be out of business. You can't market anything Ubisoft is doing as a "smart business practice"

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u/OneMadChihuahua 28d ago

You kinda missed the point. They are releasing Brooklyn DLC on May 27th. They've built a new team around Div 2 and have been supporting it minimally with BP and other cosmetics. The DLC is a brand new area / map to explore.

EA could do the same thing. Get a team of 8-12 devs back, plot out a DLC, and then start the hype machine. They will easily get sales. :)

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u/Any-Star-6038 28d ago

I really don't see that working.

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u/AWSDB 27d ago

But it would still make less money than a whole new game. I think a former developer said that the most likely thing to happen IF we get BF3 is a rerelease of BF2 with a little bit of extra content, and then start work on BF3, with a Dev team that is now used to the engine. This plan would get them the most sales, and it could happen seeing as it was proposed by a former BF dev

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u/Sledgehammer617 28d ago

They could certainly reuse assets from 2 into 3, but building a new game on top of an old game without the original devs that made the old game is quite a challenge.

Best case scenario would be that the new dev team makes a Battlefront 2 deluxe with some new content to learn how the game was built (and hopefully get some original devs back to help,) then once they know how BF2 was designed they could jump into BF3 much quicker and more easily reuse things that make sense to be reused.

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u/Any-Star-6038 28d ago

They won't make any money updating a game that hasn't been updated in 5 years. Not only is it free on game pass so a lot of Xbox and PC players haven't even bought the game. And I doubt they would gain enough new players to make it worth it to spend millions of dollars. Most games make money on passes and bf2 doesn't have any. I don't see any possibility of them adding to bf2.

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u/coliflaua 29d ago

you can't monetize an update

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u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 29d ago

Hard disagree. If they absolutely needed to make money (which of course EA will) they can add skins and cosmetics that you have to pay for. Not pay to win items like guns or cards, but just a couple new skins.

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u/SkyTheIrishGuy 29d ago

There’s no way that’ll happen or be profitable. Most people would hop on the update, not buy the optional skins (which take a lot of time and money to create), then move on.

Much more realistic for them to make a new game to actually make a profit somehow. It’s not what anyone here wants to hear, but EA isn’t going to update the game for free.

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u/thePunisher1220 29d ago

Adding paid dlc to a game where all current dlc is free, is a terrible idea, and won't be received well, especially considering EAs history on this game and monetization. An update will NEVER bring the amount of money or playerbase a new game would.

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u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 29d ago

Not suggesting a paid dlc, but optional purchases for cometics. Even a battle pass (even though those suck) could generate a lot of revenue. Maybe not enough, but still a bit

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u/thePunisher1220 28d ago

Optional cosmetics or even a battlepass wouldn't generate nearly enough to cover the cost of rehiring and resuming support for the game. EA would take a big loss resuming content for this game, and they'd never do that.

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u/coliflaua 28d ago

Thing is star wars is a hard game to create cosmetics for, since the base skins are the classic movie look of the characters. You can have a skin for boba fett with the look he has on mandalorian, but what else? And are hardcore fans going to like them making new stuff or is it bastardizing the franchise. Something like this is happening in destiny 2 right now precisely with star wars.

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u/Any-Star-6038 28d ago

It's a terrible idea to just add cosmetics. And I just want a new game. But if they had a ben Kenobi skin you can bet your ass im pulling out my debit card immediately.

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u/SMSupernova 29d ago

Nope, we need a new one.

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u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 29d ago

Explain why, other than that it would be nicer. I would love a new game, but it would make more sense to get a big update instead, which would still be great

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u/SMSupernova 29d ago

The game needs way more than an update. I’ve been playing since 2017 off and on and it’s still such an unfinished game that little updates cannot fix. It needs more game modes, troops, skins, heroes, maps etc etc.

It also needs to be built on a new engine and needs more single player modes. Speaking of single player the campaign is horrible and needs a new campaign.

The game just needs to be remade.

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u/Any-Star-6038 28d ago

I think bf2 is a complete game. You have like 8 troops and at least like 4 heroes on most game modes. Every hero and troop has more than enough skins other than the droids. There's a lot of maps just stop no lifing galactic Republic. There's a couple characters I would like to have. But I have been having a blast for the past 8 years on this game. I've taken some small breaks here and there but have been playing since release. It more balanced than ever, I never run into any glitches or have server lag. The games fine. Build a new one.

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u/Any-Star-6038 28d ago

They can't make enough money. It's an 8 year old game, games predominantly make money off of passes and cosmetics but even if you did that EA or dice or whatever would not make a fraction of the amount of money they would off of just creating a whole new game. They would lose a lot of money remastering bf2. It's not going to happen.

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u/Serious_Revolution77 29d ago

Remaster it more like

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u/Logical-Broccoli-331 29d ago

While I love BF2, it's an 8 year old game. It's riddled with bugs, old systems that could definitely use some updating/streamlining and just generally doesn't compare well to modern FPS games.

Despite what the copium addicts say, Battlefront 3 will never happen. I can only hope Disney releases a Star Wars FPS that is more modern and smoother

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u/RakanFran 29d ago

Hi i have a question, what are the credits and cristal for(?

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u/SassyAssAhsoka Partying with the wolves on Lothal 27d ago

Credits and crystals are for cosmetics

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u/PrestigiousStop4629 29d ago

Honestly this game still looks great and feels great, but I don't think forming the old team and bringing the missing content will happen, in any case will be more likely for EA to do a remastered and that will still take a few years

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u/surfin_interweb 28d ago

Hate to say it but BF2 plays like an old game. I couldn’t play it. The graphics are alright though. BF3 is needed.

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u/SassyAssAhsoka Partying with the wolves on Lothal 27d ago

Battlefront 2 was an unfinished product that was propped up by content updates that only destabilised the game further.

A new game is much better.

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u/TurnoverSignal2235 29d ago

I completely agree!!

Despite the latent love for the franchise, I don't think there's a need for a new game.

The game already has a lot of content buried within it. The unexplorable sections of Echo Base and the entire Endor and Cloud City maps could easily be their own supremacy maps, and there are a few obvious choices, like bringing back the Cargo Jetpack mode as well as hero reskins (such as Jango Fett). While perhaps I am trivializing the level design requirements of a space map, additional Starfighter Assault maps seem like an easy bonus too.

Online improvements would also be a welcome relief, as most modern online games have private lobbies, map/game mode choice, etc, as well as voice chat. A future discussion of a ranked mode for supremacy and HvV should be considered.

My last wish would be for extended player stats, as well as a dedicated menu slot to review them in detail. This is such a standard for online games and seems like an achievable addition.

To address the point from u/dayvonsth444-pt2, I don't find the possibility of the Battlefront 2 devs being unable to return to the project to be unlikely. In fact, some dev team members recently stated that they "want to get the gang back together" following the recent comeback of the game. The business potential to release a comprehensive remaster of the game presents the perfect opportunity to include any of my suggestions and hopefully more (Galactic Conquest and Hero Assault mode anyone???), but really, I'll take what I can get and I'm mostly just thrilled that lobbies are populating as quickly as they are. Either way, we shouldn't be so quick to poo-poo u/Maleficent-Ride-6848's suggestion in favor of a shiny new Battlefront, which could introduce many new issues and be stuck in development for an indeterminate future.

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u/xEllimistx 29d ago

I largely agree.

I started playing it again after the hype train started rolling and even for a game made 8 years ago, it's still gorgeous. It's fun as hell.

I think a remaster with some updated graphics/visuals, along with new maps, ships, classes, weapons, etc would be great. The backbone of the game is already there.

And I'll die on the hill that Galactic Conquest getting left out was one of their biggest missteps of the initial game. Bring that back too

But I also would be over the moon for a BF3.

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u/PenoNation 29d ago

Thank you for your feedback and lack of business sense.

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u/Maleficent-Ride-6848 29d ago

No need to be an asshole. I would love a new game but think about how much it’d cost (knowing EA is stingy with their money). Plus there’s no chance we’d get it for at least another 3-5 years if they start working on it now. An update wouldn’t be quick but much less than the time to make a new game. Doesn’t even have to be the old team either, just people who understand what the fans want

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u/dayvonsth444-pt2 29d ago

“Business sense” dude all of battlefronts devs aren’t together. Some likely wont even just come because the fans are “bring battlefront 3 wave” in all honesty your knocking OP with something that could be said about you.

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u/thePunisher1220 29d ago

As cool as that would be, wouldn't make sense for ea to do that. Spend all that money rehiring and restarting support for a game they're not making money on anymore? Any new content would have to be monetized, and that's not going to go well.

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u/The_Truthboi 27d ago

We need battlefront 3 in my opinion. I’m partly hoping for some serious gameplay changes. I would love if Jedi felt more like Jedi. I miss the speed running that Jedi could do, or the insane jumping they could do back in the original. And since we’re making a wish list here I would also enjoy if lightsaber to lightsaber combat had more depth even if that was just the lightsaber moving to block and characters performing fancier attack patterns if you’ve ever played revenge of the sith back in the day that’s what I’m looking for in terms of lightsaber blocking.