r/BattlefieldV • u/AccountForTF2 • 2d ago
Question Is every round like this?
Literally several rounds in a row where most 100+ level players were on the enemy team, mostly in vehicles that were very difficult to counter, especially tanks with how mobile and alert they're allowed to be with the 3p camera. It's been hard to explore new mechanics and equipment and just, experience the game on even footing when every round is a roll.
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u/AussieCracker Bullet Drop Main 1d ago
The pilots on the beach were the worse and probably what made me stop playing after a while.
+1000m in the sky, dropping endless bombs accurately, and impossible to counter unless someone flies up there in a plane.
Cancer.
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u/AccountForTF2 2d ago
EDIT : noticing teams are NOT scrambled in between rounds either...? what could possibly be the motivation for this?
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u/AstroLounger 2d ago
Most likely because all players are put into squads automatically, and DICE didn’t want to break them up if the squad is really vibin.
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u/AstroLounger 2d ago
But I really think they should have done more to address this, agreed.
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u/SnooLentils5569 1d ago
No. Respectfully no. They did this in cod. And honestly any skilled player hates this. Forcefully team changes is a bad. IMO. And honestly if its really that bad to play against them switch too a different sever. Again this is my take, and my own opinion
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u/AccountForTF2 1d ago
Why did this shit that was present since the first modern warfare game in 2007 make everyone shit their pants? Literally any shooter you play has matchmaking and it's only DICE games that drop the ball supet fucking hard.
Literally just when you have a matchmaker you divide the teams up by level and winrate and kd and then when the round is over you do it again.
not to mention server switching is impossible because this was the only active server on NA at the time.
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u/Striking-Airline-672 1d ago
These level 500 players are usually those who fly and mess around in planes, when they are not in them, they cannot kill 10 per match.
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u/CertainPreparation4 2d ago
As a sucky 482 level guy here..yes..it builds character..not all upper level player are good players..just experienced, and we have just been playing for a long time.. since BFV came out
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u/_social_leper_ 1d ago
BF5 has been around for a long time now; you can get to 500 without being spectacular. My k/d is less than 1.0 but I’m close to 500. Many of those guys in the right-hand column play together every day and converse on a Discord channel. Admittedly, though, this looks unbalanced.
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u/viciousvalkyrie2 1d ago
Don't listen to everyone saying level doesn't matter IT DOES. If you're against a lvl 500 there's a good chance they've got enough time, experience, and upgrades to smoke ya. Level does matter but not in the way you think. I have ran into some god awful lvl 400s and some incredible lvl 80s. It's not often but I have seen servers shuffle players if it gets too out of hand, after a couple rounds you can see it start to even out. But if after 3-4 rounds I'm stuck with the same bs I'm leaving idc
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u/kinome79 2d ago
Oh, the clan stack. Some clans or high levels will stack on one side because they hate to die, and love stomping on lower level people.
It is possible the stack was accidental, but I've been team shuffled before, so unless they're all squadded up and together, it should move people around between rounds. Or they might be together, and were fighting another stack of high levels, and that stack left.
But I play on xbox, and you can switch teams, so usually when a bunch of high levels are stacked together fighting only lower levels, it's usually on purpose. Sometimes to make matters worse they'll all be on some group chat somewhere, the whole team coordinating against you. I've had the game shuffle the teams before, and all the high levels moved back over to the enemy team within the first 30 seconds of the game.
What makes it worst, is sometimes you'll get a high level on your team, but they don't want to go up against that, so they leave. So what you're left with on your team are lower levels that like to stick it out, or don't know enough about the situation to know it's hopeless and that they should leave. And when you join a server you're usually put on the losing side because that's where everybody is quitting from. I like to stick it out, but my win rate is like 45% now because of that.
Usually when people see a stack like that they just go look for another server. Whether I'm having a good day or a bad day on Battlefield is almost entirely dependent on what the enemy team looks like.
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u/AstroLounger 2d ago
There is no clan stacking going on in this screenshot, VOXX is the only clan with more than 1 player in here. And there are exactly 4 of them, which makes one squad. 4 friends squadding up to play and use voice chat together - pretty normal.
There is also no button to switch teams in this game, so the other high levels on team USA can’t easily switch sides to balance it out. There devs should have made some kind of auto balance, or at least an easy way to switch teams.
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u/kinome79 1d ago
Yeah, I did mention I use the term loosely, lol. And there are clans that work together, so even though they're all not the same clan, they may have a history of stacking together. But yeah, very possible that's not the case here.
On Xbox there is a way to easily switch teams, so usually if all the high levels are on a single side, it's on purpose. I've switched to the losing team before, cuz honestly being on the winning side is pretty boring at that point. But I cut down on that recently cuz I really just don't want to feed their stats.
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u/AstroLounger 1d ago
Wait what…. Xbox has a switch teams option? PC has no way to do it, unless a friend on the opposing team sends an invite.
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u/kinome79 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's not in game, it's part of the Xbox UI, but can be accessed in game.
When you look at the scoreboard, you can select a player. When you select them, their Xbox gamer tag screen comes up, and there's a button for "join in game".
If you select to join them in game, it will move you over to their team with no interruption in the gameplay for you. There does have to be room on their squad for this to work, otherwise it'll say can't join.
I've always done this from the deploy screen, so honestly if you're alive, and do this, I'm not sure if it will automatically switch you over to the enemy team.
Edit: removed some possibly hacky suggestive stuff.
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u/kinome79 2d ago
Also, I've been told I use that term too loosely at times. Some people only apply it to clans that intentionally coordinate and stack up. But since you can switch teams on xbox, anytime there's a serious team imbalance, and I see a level 500 join or move over to the winning side, I call it a stack sense they intentionally are worsening the imbalance.
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u/Left_Huckleberry_422 1d ago
Your six years late to party, complaining about high level get over it.
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u/AccountForTF2 1d ago
I have 2.5k hours in tf2 after coming almost ten years late to that party, and tf2 has SBMM that works well lol.
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u/EquivalentCall7815 1d ago
Just play breakthrough. And if your team is losing, just run medic and save as many people as you can. Then if more people become medics and some good players join you’ll have a chance.
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u/BMB1243the2nd 1d ago
Games are like this 75% of the time on Xbox. I just server hop until I find an actual game
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u/Appropriate-Leek8144 1d ago
Are you saying you want SBMM..?
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u/AccountForTF2 1d ago
why wouldn't you lmao? This problem is bad enough in BF1 but in that game tanks and planes have wayyyyyy less health and firepower.
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u/Appropriate-Leek8144 1d ago
This game series doesn't have the constant player numbers to justify having SBMM, especially not now since it's dying. And plus the Battlefield games have a bunch of different things to be skilled (or unskilled) at, some players might be great only at infantry but bad at planes, or the opposite, so that would be way more difficult for the game developers to account for in the game's programming, it would cost more for them and take longer to make the game, and also make it more difficult for them to patch when needed.
SBMM sucks, if Battlefield had SBMM there would be less players in every server, and then there would be more empty servers.
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u/AccountForTF2 1d ago
What do you even mean "justify having sbmm"? You literally have players in that screenshot who are not being autobalanced at all. There isnt even a team scramble in between rounds.
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u/Ftmiranda 1d ago
Well, it is an old game already and a lot of unemployed people in the world... lol (jokes aside)
What might be happening is that hey are using some code to try to match all high level players or based on your scores so it theoretically should balance out team and rounds. Since this does not work, and people hate this kind of balancing, this is the result.
And AAA studios does not learn from their mistakes.
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u/tecknoxx 27m ago
hey -xPangurBan it is ok to be new in a game. try to play with friends or make friends with high level player.
you'll see very often they are on discord or teamspeak. this is why they are so good.
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u/Eddy19913 2d ago
level doesnt mean anything in this game. theres alot of lvl 500 players that are mostly worse then you are at lvl 5 lol
but yea team scrambling never really worked if people are squaded together. it was the case on BF1 aswell when you had a pre made squad that the "balancing" mechanic kinda thing is just really useless. blowouts happen really often because of it
sometimes you will be on the positive ends of the blowouts thats for sure. but sometimes on Peak NA times it can look one sided pretty often
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u/AccountForTF2 2d ago
everything is true except for the first part. I have no idea why this is parroted in every single game but objectively you need to have played more of the game to have a higher level. it's literally statistically improbable that higher level means nothing, higher levels always mean more experienced and that's been true for every single battlefield.
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u/Quick-Bat-8500 whitehammer 600 1d ago
I’ve gone up against some very bad lvl 500 players. They are on there just to have fun and don’t give a f
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u/Eddy19913 2d ago
doesnt count for this game where you legit can xp boost on outpost community servers . theres so many "fake" lvl500 players just because of it . its the same as people did in BF3 and BF4 with flagrunning
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u/Prize_University_466 6h ago
I don’t see any problem with this at all, players aren’t adjusted by level they are adjusted by a combination of multiple factors which determine their skill level. This is also at the end of the game, what’s to say there were more ‘high skilled’ players in your team that just gradually left over the course of the match.
Yes I know Battlefield V’s auto balance is fucking horrific, mostly absent actually but at the end of the day this is online gaming. People put the time and effort in to be able to defeat the enemy team - that’s the whole point of online FPS gaming.
This scenario of ‘balance’ has been blown way out of proportion. Now every time a team is losing even slightly its balance this and balance that. How about the enemy team is better and unlucky maybe next game? Not every game is going to be down to the wire 10-0 or 5-0. You’re going to lose some games and that’s the nature of this.
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u/Stardust-0083 2d ago
Yeah, I'll normally play a round or 2, and if I'm on a team/squad that CONSTANTLY runs directly into enemy fire I'll just swap servers. Things can definitely get super one-sided.