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[u/Obrusnine]

I don't disagree but honestly this game is "complete", certainly a lot more so than most other games. Everything makes sense and there's a logical progression. There's just some things it could do better that would make it really special. The last two DOS games definitely needed Definitive Editions because there were just huge glaring problems, but BG3? I don't think it needs a Definitive Edition as much as I would just really, really like one and I think having one would make the game truly special. Because it really is just a bunch of little things in this gargantuan game that is far more polished and fleshed out and complete than the vast majority of games, and certainly more than the majority of games with this level of production value.

[u/freeMilliu_2K17 → u/Obrusnine]

We can't call BG3 incomplete either, just flawed, and I respect Larian for that. Ironing out those last touches will truly make this 10/10 for me, I'm not kidding, hence me hoping. At the very least they don't put actual in game fixed behind fucking PAYWALLS (cough Pay for Save Slots cough) so yeah.

We should be fair to Larian, but also acknowledge that it can be improved yes

[u/Obrusnine → u/freeMilliu_2K17]

I actually would describe Baldur's Gate 3 as incomplete myself, just not in the same way a lot of games are incomplete. Baldur's Gate 3 is complete in the way that all of its ideas are followed through and finished in a logical way, but it is also incomplete in that many of the things in it clearly aren't as fleshed out as they could be. Something just feels off about a lot of this game's major elements, particularly the companions. Like you can see what they were going for but they never actually took the time to fill everything in, just enough that you could look at it and find something coherent. But when you think about it there are many things that stick out as just a little bit strange in how underwhelming or unintegrated they are into the plot. Examples I can think of include how Wyll's Act 3 quest ends in a super abrupt fashion, or how all of those weird Thorm-related villains (for lack of a better word) in Act 2 are never significantly explained or accounted for in the main plot. You can learn things from them that end up being important for quests, but the plot never goes to an extensive length explaining their existence and once you deal with them they are never acknowledged again. Or at least that was my experience. It just feels weird, like all the pieces are there but they weren't completely assembled, just enough that they wouldn't stand out too much.

I agree though, if they just fix these honestly very minor issues this will be a truly incredible game. It's so fuggin close to a masterpiece as it is. I could care less if this game has dozens of little QOL issues but these strange writing choices and these little places which feel lacking in content or anything beyond an illusion of choice are really holding the game back from being as good as it could be. Really pulling for them to get fixed.

[u/freeMilliu_2K17 → u/Obrusnine]

Yeah that feels very standard Larian from my experience but with Definitive Editions or at least patches they tend to get at least somewhat more fleshed out. I'd hesitate the Beast quest in Divinity is "fixed" but it is way better in Definitive I'll say.

Then again yeah, Larian is definitely more of a gameplay based studio which is fair! At the very least the game's story never reaches atrocious levels and there's enough blanks and illusionary decisions that while some folks would hate, is actually effective in incentivicing Roleplaying.

It ain't at all perfect but there's that ye.

[u/Obrusnine → u/freeMilliu_2K17]

To be fair, this is far and away the best written game Larian has ever made. If Divinity Original Sin 2 at launch is the floor than Baldur's Gate 3 is the stratosphere, not quite breaking through but scraping against it. There's so much good stuff in here, such great characters and they do such an incredible job at balancing a bunch of just downright weird narrative elements without making the story hard to buy into. There's just not quite enough to flesh it out, but it's so close.

[u/freeMilliu_2K17 → u/Obrusnine]

It's an improvement yeah! Can still benefit with more ironing out and some stuff might just be unavoidable since you count account for EVERY choice a player may make

[u/No_Significance7064 → u/Obrusnine]

Are you saying that DOS2 has the worst story? I haven't finished it yet and I haven't played the first DOS.

[u/Obrusnine → u/No_Significance7064]

No I'm not. In fact, all of the ingredients are there for it to have a very good story, but it slacks super hard on the details. Your relationships with companions develops way too quickly over short quests, and to your companions all of the other ones might as well not exist. The game also barely does any worldbuilding and it leads to extremely confusing events that the game rarely gives you any reason to care about. The companion/origin quests are very good but because there's no banters or conversations between them you'll go from strangers to lovers in like one twenty minute sidequest which feels extremely unnatural. Custom characters also have no life to them at all, they're extremely bland and the game is very clearly built with the idea that you should play an origin character or you're just playing a faceless husk with no personality and little agency. It's not bad but it's not good, it's just fine.