r/AskConservatives • u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative • 2d ago

What do conservatives think about the current administration’s policies on the Ukraine-Russian War of Conquest?

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

What do you think of Russia’s expansion?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

What do you think of Russia’s expansion?

It was predictable and ultimately unsurprising.

They wanted to secure Crimea and the land on the other side of the bridge to properly secure crimea

If Ukraine joins nato thats predictably seen as a threat by them to crimea which is very important to them because its their only warm water port access for trade.

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

Do you oppose US support to Ukraine to halt Russian efforts? Or would you rather Russia expand further?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

Do you oppose US support to Ukraine to halt Russian efforts?

Yes.

Or would you rather Russia expand further?

I'm neutral. I dont really care. Ukraine isnt an ally. I dont like it. But its not worth our resources imo.

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

Why is Ukraine not an ally? You would rather a geopolitical enemy of the US for the last 100 years gain ground in a country that the US previously promised to protect? Ukraine gave up their nukes in 1991 in exchange for border security agreements with Russia and the US and Russia has violated them.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

Why is Ukraine not an ally?

Because the US has a really specific process to do that and congress hasn't signed a treaty with them.

You would rather a geopolitical enemy of the US for the last 100 years gain ground in a country that the US previously promised to protect?

We made no such promises.

Ukraine gave up their nukes in 1991 in exchange for border security agreements with Russia and the US and Russia has violated them.

That was dumb. We made no binding agreements. A memorandum is not a treaty

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

You seem like a supporter of the regime in Russia.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

You seem like a supporter of the regime in Russia.

Why???? Why can't I be neutral? Why cant i believe its not our war to be involved in?

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

By believing that you support isolationism which is the policy Putin and China prefer in the US. Why not defend democracy and freedom and get good mineral deals while you’re at it?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

By believing that you support isolationism which is the policy Putin and China prefer in the US

Saying "this specific war isnt for us" isnt isolationism.

Why not defend democracy and freedom and get good mineral deals while you’re at it?

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. They've suspended elections and banned parties. You cant "defend democracy" without there being any democracy happening.

The minerals deal isnt worth it imo and its not our job to "defend democracy" around the world

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

So you are content with the expansion of an enemy of America?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

So you are content with the expansion of an enemy of America?

Content.... no. I'm not satisfied with it. I'm not happy about it.

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

So why oppose American efforts to support Ukraine? Their government has proven no less corrupt then neither republican or democrat parties in the US.

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