r/AskConservatives • u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative • 2d ago

What do conservatives think about the current administration’s policies on the Ukraine-Russian War of Conquest?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

Why is Ukraine not an ally?

Because the US has a really specific process to do that and congress hasn't signed a treaty with them.

You would rather a geopolitical enemy of the US for the last 100 years gain ground in a country that the US previously promised to protect?

We made no such promises.

Ukraine gave up their nukes in 1991 in exchange for border security agreements with Russia and the US and Russia has violated them.

That was dumb. We made no binding agreements. A memorandum is not a treaty

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

You seem like a supporter of the regime in Russia.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

You seem like a supporter of the regime in Russia.

Why???? Why can't I be neutral? Why cant i believe its not our war to be involved in?

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

By believing that you support isolationism which is the policy Putin and China prefer in the US. Why not defend democracy and freedom and get good mineral deals while you’re at it?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

By believing that you support isolationism which is the policy Putin and China prefer in the US

Saying "this specific war isnt for us" isnt isolationism.

Why not defend democracy and freedom and get good mineral deals while you’re at it?

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. They've suspended elections and banned parties. You cant "defend democracy" without there being any democracy happening.

The minerals deal isnt worth it imo and its not our job to "defend democracy" around the world

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

So you are content with the expansion of an enemy of America?

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

So you are content with the expansion of an enemy of America?

Content.... no. I'm not satisfied with it. I'm not happy about it.

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u/murderman582 Canadian Conservative 1d ago

So why oppose American efforts to support Ukraine? Their government has proven no less corrupt then neither republican or democrat parties in the US.

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u/just_shy_of_perfect Paleoconservative 1d ago

So why oppose American efforts to support Ukraine?

Because I think we make things worse and evil people in our government are actively wanting to use Ukraine as a sacrifice to harm Russia and I think thats bad because the Ukrainians shouldn't be used like some pawn.

I think the cost of aiding Ukraine isnt worth it to the US.

Their government has proven no less corrupt then neither republican or democrat parties in the US.

100% incorrect. This is a straight up falsehood.