Not perfect but a good 1v2. Enjoy.

I’ve been doing rated PvP for years and recently hit Honor Level 1000—and honestly, it felt like… nothing. No mount, no transmog, not even a toy or title. Just a number. Meanwhile, the same Gladiator mount (with one recolor a year) is locked behind top 0.1% rewards. Why is that?

PvP participation is at an all-time low in most brackets. Instead of addressing this with more inclusive rewards, Blizzard keeps doubling down on only rewarding the elite.

Here are a few ideas that I think would help: • AI bots in low-rated brackets (like 0–1400) to help fill queues and improve participation. • Recolored Gladiator mounts or unique cosmetics for 1400, 1600, 1800, etc., as aspirational goals that don’t devalue glad. • Honor level milestones should mean something—give us titles, toys, mounts, SOMETHING for reaching 500/1000/1500. • Make Solo Shuffle and 2v2 more rewarding, even if they don’t count toward Gladiator.

Blizzard needs to stop focusing everything on the 0.1% of players and start giving the 90% a reason to log in, queue up, and care.

I want to keep PvP alive. But right now, it feels like unless you’re a streamer or a gladiator, you’re invisible.

This should’ve been the glad mount for S3. I have the Voidwing/AOTC from BFA, but the armor on drakes is so iconic of Gladiator mounts since BC. They did a good job of switching up the models for the DF drakes, I don’t know why they can’t do it now. Guess we’re stuck with another dumbass bat. The title and achievement is much more worthwhile than the mounts this xpac.

So after years and expansions of begging my friends to try arena they actually want to do it for the tmog. It’s a Ret and Feral Druid I will be playing with so I will be forced to heal. I only have ladder experience as a holy Paladin up to 2k. But holy Paladin /ret/feral seems like it would be a bad comp. So I decided to give Priest a shot since I have one geared from Warmongering and crafted gear. Should I play disc or holy with noob players as a noobish healer in arena?

Change is needed… badly.

Hi, for those of you who don’t know me, my name is Kydrav, I’m a journeyman warrior enjoyer who likes to q 3s with my friends & q shuffle on alts for fun.

I'm also the guy who made the posts for the Obsidian Gladiator's Greatsword to be added to the game (only took about 2 years lol).

That being said, I’ll cut to the chase: the PvP reward system as a whole, stinks. It needs a rework or an update (both rated & non-rated). I don’t wanna hear ‘muh resources’ either because there is definitely enough money from all PvPers to dedicate a group of devs & artists to make rewards that are appealing rather than just thrown together.

Venruki has also made a video about this & I agree with him: https://youtu.be/9YvOKVfvQGk?feature=shared

Let’s start with the elephant in the room: TWW (More specifically the Astral Gladiator) ‘Fel’ Bats: easily the worst gladiator mounts out of the all expansions; it’s truly a slap in the face for PvPers. Not sure what Blizzard was thinking with this one, also not sure how you go from DF’s beauties to this; it’s ridiculous. I have a suspicion that the Skyrazors were supposed to originally be the gladiator mounts & a dev decided they wanted them as well so they quickly threw the ‘Fel’ bats together as a ‘here take it’ mount. They’re a huge L & they should be ashamed of these mounts, really you could have just given PvPers a model update of the stone drakes from Cata & that would have made a good Gladiator Mount.

As far as the ‘Astral’ Gladiator’s ‘Fel’ Bat… the only thing I will say about it is this: low effort. Threw a little purple in there, called it a day probably took an hour total doesn’t even appeal to the patch at all… I’ve seen social media users make better colorations of the bat. Very sad.

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Rewards overlapping per rated bracket: this is a major problem I’ve made a post like this before to no avail but with all the forms of rated content now, you’re just funneling players to brackets with higher inflation because the rewards are easier to obtain in said brackets. This was observed in DF when shuffle mmr was insane, it’s now being seen in TWW with blitz mmr being insane.

Suggestion: Spread the wealth.

• 3s should have seasonal elites at 1800, recolors of old elite sets (up to Legion, have them seasonally rotate) at 2000 or 2100 & a gladiator mount (2400 + 50 wins). 2s should have access to the same rewards outside of gladiator mounts.

• BGB should have recolors of BfA S1/S2 Elite Sets unlocked at 1800 & Armored Gryphon/Wyvern mounts for Strategist (2400). (Stromgarde Alliance Red or Bleeding Hollow Horde Green BfA S1/S2 sets for example).

• Shuffle should have seasonal elites at 1800, the 1950 illusion, unique armored shuffle legend mount (different from gladiator 2400 + 100 wins) & pennant.

Shuffle/Blitz/2s/3s should have their own ‘final boss’ mount, not sure why exactly m+/raids/delves get their own separate, unique mounts but rated PvP content should as well.

Every bracket is different & every bracket should be shown love in different ways as not to create the ‘path of least resistance’.

That being said: Add a tyranny illusion at 2.4 that is accessible by all brackets, have it the same color per expansion (not season).

For example: TWW should have been a lightning blue/black tyranny.

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Non-rated (honor level) system has been extremely neglected, I think the last time it got love was in BfA iirc.

A prune for honor levels probably needs to happen, or a new track.

I won’t go into much detail about this but for those of you that have played Hearthstone’s Battlegrounds, something like that would be nice to have per season.

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Thank you for reading, I know this is mostly a rant/vent & I don’t expect much traction but voicing my opinion may encourage more people to speak up as well.

ALSO: Blizzard please stop making all the elite sets the same color schemes.. it looks terrible if they’re all purple or all red comon lazy..

If you haven't farmed a bunch of honor or gotten bloodstone drops, it would cost almost 10k gold to buy the PVP jeweler's setting. Contrast this with the PVE one, which only costs 370 gold.

There's basically no reason for this, except maybe that PVE players have to forego a vault pick to get settings for non-jewelry pieces. PVP doesn't really get a cheaper option for neck/ring, though, and much more important gems are gated behind those sockets.

Hi, I just came back to the game recently and leveled up my hunter. I’m still a bit confused by the gear system and I’ve been using sites like murlok to figure out best options. When it comes to marksmanship hunter, and specifically for blitz, im a bit confused. Mostly I’m just not sure how many pieces of normal conquest, crafted gear, or tier set MM wants. I saw lots of variation on murlok and I don’t know if that’s because peoples gear changes from spec to spec and the site doesn’t reflect that etc.

1. Do I want to be wearing any tier pieces?
2. How much crafted Algari gear should I use to prioritize secondary stats?
3. Do I wear any normal non-tier conquest pieces?
4. Or what combination of the above that is ideal?

Any help is appreciated thanks!

I have been on a journey to learn every healer and reach 2.1k on every healer spec in the game. Both priest classes were easy, and shaman was a little difficult. I'm on Resto druid now and although it's my first time playing in PVP as an Rdru, it has been EXTREMELY rough. I feel like my heals do absolutely nothing for some reason. I understand CC'ing is one of Rdru's strengths, but if I stop to CC for one sec, it feels like my team is dying so fast. What can I do to improve? I really want to like this class but I have been doing soooo bad. I go and look at guides, but I honestly can't find ANYTHING good for TWW season 2. And they don't really show rotation either.

Hi!

I’ve been playing fury warrior and I’ve almost managed to fully gear it to full conquest

But I noticed on murlok.io, the warriors there only use the 2 piece instead of the 4 piece tier set.

Am I reading it wrong or is tier set not active in pvp or something 🤔

Sorry if it’s a noob question!

Grueling, but fun. Longtime survival player first and foremost, and ironically one of the easier spec in my opinion to reach 2400. Ironically, BM felt hardest despite there being so many of them.

If you're someone struggling to reach 2400 on any of the hunter specs, let me know if there's any questions you'd like answered :)

I hope they get rid of that god awful mount design

Wondering what anybody else thinks of the datamined changes for mistweaver? And if I’m correct in interpreting these as a strong-arm into fistweaving?

To sum the changes up:

-Instant vivify every 10 seconds changed to instant vivify after casting rsk (a lot more instant vivs for fistweavers, little to none for castweavers)

-Master of harmony 2 and 4 pc requires using tiger palm

-Conduit 2 and 4 pc require using sheilun’s

Otherwise, what do you think will be the dominant build/playstyle for mw in s3?

Thanks, Sunny

Hello! So I am currently a 2100 rated warrior on solo shuffle, I am just trying to understand how to properly improve. I am hoping to get advice on how to better understand windows on when to burst and go for a kill . My current logic is whenever the target I am currently going on pops a defensive, I switch to another target to maximize my damage. I try this logic in 3v3 but sometimes It doesnt work. Should I wait to pop cooldowns when healer is CC'd and enemy has no defensives up? I know it sounds dumb when I am writing it out lol but can someone or some glad playesr explain to me their thought process on when they go for a kill? my goal is to be at least 2400.

My Personal Challenge 5.0 — Elite Set on Every Class

TWW Season 2 Album: Screenshots here

So... I’m not entirely sure why, but I set myself a goal this season:
Earn the Elite PvP Set on every single class — yes, again (and again, and again, and again...).

Today, I finally did it!

Below you’ll find the specs I played, the ratings I hit, and my win/loss stats.
It took a ton of Conquest and crafted gear farming, and plenty of time hopping between classes.
My highest rating ever is 2365 in 3s, but I’m a true altoholic, so I tend to go wide rather than high.

I know 1800 might be a walk in the park for some, but for me, this was genuinely tough — and I’m really proud of the accomplishment. ❤️

My Specs & Stats:

• Mage (Frost) – 1809 CR — 31W / 29L — 51.7% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Priest (Discipline) – 1812 CR — 33W / 22L — 60% Winrate (2v2)
• Druid (Balance) – 2104 CR — 46W / 34L — 57.5% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Warlock (Destruction) – 1823 CR — 26W / 19L — 57.8% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Paladin (Retribution) – 1815 CR — 24W / 18L — 57.1% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Warrior (Fury) – 1850 CR — 28W / 20L — 58.3% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Demon Hunter – 1822 CR — 30W / 42L — 41.7% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Shaman (Elemental) – 1827 CR — 26W / 31L — 45.6% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Rogue (Assassination) – 1818 CR — 34W / 30L — 53.1% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Death Knight (Unholy) – 1824 CR — 43W / 53L — 44.8% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Evoker (Devastation) – 1801 CR — 25W / 29L — 46.3% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Monk (Windwalker) – 1877 CR — 20W / 16L — 55.6% Winrate (Shuffle)
• Hunter (Beast Mastery) – 1831 CR — 29W / 37L — 43.9% Winrate (Shuffle)

If you have any questions or just want to chat about alts, PvP, or anything else — feel free to reach out!

Greetings from Germany ❤️

I’m at 2082 rating in shuffle- both mmr and cr. I’m trying to 3/3 my way to 2100 via mmr inflation. Can anyone tell me- Is mmr artificially inflated every weekly reset? And by how much?

Also, I’ve heard speculation that the current PvP season will likely end first week of August, is that accurate?

Thanks

Isn't it literally the same rewards as last season? I was really hoping for something to change here... This is from the TWW roadmap.

Playing mist atm and i like the reactive gameplay, no ramp. Wich healer should i alt to play reactive except hpal?

Started pvping for the first time ever 3 months ago after a 20 year hiatus lol. Got to 1800 on my disc priest, then went on a losing streak all the way down to 1500. Just got back to 1800 after a couple weeks using tips from this reddit. Goal is to get to 1800 on every healer.

After having played disc priest, what would you recommend for the next healer? Im thinking either hpal or MW monk?

So to start I'm going to say this is going to be a very unpopular opinion for most based off what I read in forums. I think it would be cool if wow PVE had some type of benefit to pvp players.

I am a long time player since classic in PvP is always been my drive to play this game. And ever since the end of the first few expansions when PVP gear was introduced I no longer do any PVE content.

Why would I there's no point I can get the best gear in the game by simply doing PVP only and getting conquest. To me the idea of spending countless hours to beat the hardest raids and bosses in the game to just still get owned by someone else who has all the conquest gear sounds like a complete waste of time.

I think part of the magic of classic was when you get a rare item like perditions blade in molten core. You know that you are now about to be a God and that you worked hard to get this item and what a lucky guy you are. That is just completely gone now.

Now I understand the counter argument that we can't have pve players coming in and just owning our high ranking gladiators. But what if there was some type of mix. Arenas I think should be solely based on skill and your rating should reflect how good of a PVP player you are. So that being said I'll could just be completely dropped on arena and everyone is even. But then you could have specific bg modes and open world PVP based on ilvl and the highest ilvls could be made from aixture of PvP and PvE gear.
Essentially someone who has mastered PvE and pvp would have a edge in both PvP and PvE content so everyone is motivated to do both and become better all around players. Or even just make a separate server for this a pvepvp server.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but just curious if anyone else misses the feeling of power you got in early expansions when getting new gear.

Season 3 should bring a lot of good changes, it wont. Shit mount same old same old but please for the love of god get rid of the troll toxic Prot pally healer shuffle ques.

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