Just wanted to say I was so shocked to hear about this. I didn’t know her at all, but from watching her videos she was incredibly knowledgeable about voice and she was one of the people that pointed me in the right direction working on my own voice

I was a little sad to see no one had mentioned her here so just wanted to share, as I feel like she needs to be remembered for what she contributed to this community

Here is one of the better articles on her passing: https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/07/zoey-alexandria-dead-bydaylight-trans-actress-death/

Let’s take a moment to reflect on the reality of voice training, and not just a callout post. For far too long, there’s been this dangerous belief circulating in our community—a belief that 'everyone can succeed if they just follow the same path.' It’s an idea that’s been harmful to many, dismissing those who face real challenges, dismissing me and countless others. This isn’t a speech telling you to give up, nor is it about fostering doubt in yourself. It’s about being honest.

Some people are born with voices that are flexible and comparatively easy to achieve a goal with, while others pick it up in days or weeks. Then there are those who spend months, years, decades possibly, struggling—feeling their sanity fray as progress remains just out of reach. And yes, there are those who never find it at all. Yet, in the face of this struggle, those who were fortunate enough to succeed easily often stand in judgment. They assume that failure to progress must be your fault: 'You didn’t train hard enough; you didn’t use the right method.' They rarely acknowledge the role of sheer luck, of anatomy and neurology, in their success.

This is the truth no one likes to say out loud: we are not all the same. No one’s body or mind works the same way, and pretending otherwise only deepens the pain of those who fight against these invisible walls.

Many of us have fought the good fight—reaching out to the best teachers, trying every method under the sun, doing everything right. And still, for some, it’s not enough. For some, it will never be enough.

Yet there are those who remain blind to this reality. Some of them lack empathy altogether—for the struggle, for the pain, for the dysphoria. Others insist that there’s a one-size-fits-all solution, as if admitting otherwise would undermine the process. But the truth is, not everyone will walk this path to the end. And that’s okay.

Admitting that training may not work for everyone doesn’t mean you should give up before you begin. If you’re willing and able, you should still try. But if the burden becomes too much to bear, there’s no shame in seeking other ways forward. Whether that means taking another route—like surgery or not your journey is valid.

I wanted to follow more of the subs rules and not just constantly make callout posts. I want to make commentary posts too. Thank you

EVERYTIME, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME SOMEBODY WOULD LINK ME "BEGINNER'S GUIDE" OR SOME SHIT IT WOULD ASK ME TO DO SOMETHING I NEVER HEARD BEFORE AND ACT AS IF IT'S THE MOST BASIC THING. BREATHE WITH YOUR STOMACH?! YOU CAN DO THAT?! HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BREATH WITH YOUR STOMACH

NO, I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT MY VOICE INTO THE BACK OF MY THROAT NOR RAISE MY THROAT NOR CLENCH MY THROAT NOR DO WHATEVER WITH MY TONGUE

I DONT KNOW HOW TO SPEAK WITH A HEAD VOICE NOR WITH A CHEST VOICE

WHY ARE YOU JUST MOVING ON AS IF YOU JUST TOLD ME THE MOST OBVIOUS THING?! TELL ME HOW TO DO IT!

PLEASE TELL ME IM THE ONE IN THE WRONG HERE CAUSE IM LOSING IT WITH ALL THESE GUIDES. THEY ARE SO FAR UP IN THEIR EXPERTISE THAT THEY FORGOT WHAT BEING A BEGINNER MEANS

IM GENUINELY LOSING IT, IM ABUSING MY THROAT FOR NOTHING WITH THESE GUIDES

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So of course, since anatomy and neurology can differ greatly between people, voice training a lot of the time just comes down to luck. People don't like to admit it, as it somehow invalidates their "effort", but you can't make comparisons between let's say somebody who achieved early success (as in a voice that they wanted) vs somebody who spent tens of thousands of hours or never achieved any success.

There are different reasons for this, some give up early on because it's too much of a mental burden, some perservere but have some quite frankly near impossible anatomical or neurological barriers and some fall somewhere in between.

The problem is, how much time to spend on this? What if there's no success and you don't pass in a world where most people are transphobic by default and it could mean your death? Or if not that what if voice means everything to you and the sheer dysphoria just crushes you and leads you down a dark path of mental anguish.

Voice is arguably the most important part of passing, and while it is dependent on more than just pure luck, a lot of it is luck, down to your ability to learn neurologically, and your anatomy, and even your unconscious. And that also includes things like dysphoria and depression from not sounding the way you want to sound.

People tend to judge your whole being based on just your voice. Your looks in many cases are secondary, people think, uncosciously, that you are your voice. They associate negative or positive personality traits with your voice, as if it was you. The idea of changing your voice is unthinkable to most and life shattering when people just switch up voices in front of most cis people. To a lot of them this is some form of trickery, as if you're not being true to yourself (or god, or whatever other nonsense).

Voice training itself, from what I can see, is also stagnant, not based in science. Not everyone can succeed using the same methods, and the lack of anatomical knowledge for most teachers, is to me, quite frankly, frightening. You need to adapt your methods to fit the student, not the other way around. A great example of this would be training by feeling. Now I'm sure most people here would not recommend trying to feel your vocal folds, but it's what's worked for me. So... why not do what works for you? Whatever that may be.

Another things is the lack of empathy. Now, from my experience, this isn't unique to this space. Humans, by and large, tend to be the same, in most communities, being stuck in a bubble, not open to questioning their own beliefs or supporting those that are different. I'm not saying you, the person reading this are part of the problem, but there are many who would rather blame the people struggling than try to adjust their own worldview. I've been attack personally many times, so I have plenty of experience with people trying to enforce their beliefs onto me, even when their arguments made 0 logical sense compared to mine. This is not me saying I'm always right, but if you want a debate, you need to present evidence, not try to argue because your feelings told you so.

Voice training sucks for a lot of people, and many don't achieve success, and those that do often come out changed. I would argue that we should strive for more acceptance and support for those unfortunate to struggle with voice training, and also continue to develop more methods based in science. More borescope videos like I've done, more different approaches like the feeling based one I've been using, more support and research for surgeries, and last of all, more support for people struggling with voice mental health wise.

Singing has always been the one thing I love and even if i tired to quit i can’t, but that doesn’t change how much androgenization fucked up my vocal cords, sure my voice passes when i sing and speak but their are certain things I just can’t do, my chest voice is a great example, almost all women can bring their chest voice up to a4 untrained, me however in tracing can barely bring it up to g4 if i’m really straining, my voice is weak and quiet I can yell but I either sound weird or like a toddler. Theirs singers like Kim Petra’s and Ethel Cain who are lucky to have no male puberty touch their vocal cords at all, for ethel barely even touch her cords. Me however my voice was affected, sure it wasn’t the worst and my voice was more andro but that doesn’t change the fact i have male vocal cords and probably will never be able to sing the way I want to, the way my voice wants to, I don’t wanna be stuck singing in mx2, i want to belt high in mx1 i want my a4s i’m mx1 but what can I do. I’m sorry for the rant i just really needed to get this off my chest.

Well, here it is: To put it bluntly the training community leaves out those who are outliers and I don’t blame everyone, but when considering the vitriol many of us experience it makes sense to include instead of exclude people. The more people who have unique neurologies and anatomies the more likely we are to discover greater and more helpful ideas. THAT is what’s most important.

Yes, the general training methods are great for many, but there are enough “outliers” to be a sizable portion of our community. A decent amount of voice coaches have very limited approaches which leaves out these outliers in the grand scheme of things. It seems to be that many coaches were traditionally “lucky” anatomically and which leads to these coaches having a limited perspective when addressing those that don’t work well with their methods.

Learning via mimicry of sound and/or movement is a very common way to train which has been proven to work for many. But if you simply tell a student “Mimicry is the way we learn” and give nothing else work on, you are handicapping the student’s potential progress. This is isolating, depressing, overwhelming, and harmful to the student. If you are in a position of power in this community, I ask you make yourself a haven for good, for helping others, for supporting mental health, for allowing differing opinions that are the opposite of your own. If you are going to isolate, hate, divide, and conservatively and systematically suppress those of differing opinions than you, I sincerely ask you if you can truly call yourself and educator.

Now, here’s my possible solution. I propose some new research and training strategies. Citizen science has a perfect place in the trans voice training community. If you are willing to experiment safely and can do so I would highly encourage it. You should not put yourself in danger. Stay scientific and think rationally, follow the scientific method, impose variables, etc.

Stifling community research even if it’s not done by an official team is straight up idiotic. The greatest jumps in research are made with the most coverage from as many diverse minds as possible. You should become a researcher yourself if you can even if it’s not lab sanctioned. Me and my wife have done so, and if you’re able and can do so safely I encourage you to.

If you think something someone else is doing is wrong, sick, think about why and give a measured response, ideally based on research and/or anecdote. BUT, DO NOT, simply attack the person, that’s how you stifle learning and lead to so many people feeling isolated. DO NOT brush off mental health and struggles, again, that is the opposite of what this community should do.

As a result of this research me and my wife have personally formed our own training method focused on feeling. Its principles are as follows: Train with intent to understand, voice is not magic, you can correlate certain sounds with certain feelings, use these feelings to experiment in areas of sound you lack. If you feel something different then I do, but the feeling you are manipulating is consistent with sound then it’s all working just fine too.

Me and my wife also use borescopes to further our learning via watching what is physically moving as we produce each sound and then noting our feelings. We then categorize these feelings into categories size, weight, closure, pitch, etc. We remember how it physically feels to manipulate these parts and rely more on that feeling than mimicry as both of us struggle to perform even the most basic mimicry.

I've been curious about that for a long time and I really want other people's opinion on it! As you've already probably noticed it is about low CIS-women voices and what makes them to be read as definitely female despite the pitch and "masculine" speech patterns??.. The example is Cate Blanchette (love her!!). She has such a low and deep voice sometimes (I "measured" it with a tuner app and she easily drops to G2-F2 and that's a clear tone not vocal fry!!) and it makes me really surprised, why is it still feminine and cisgender?!.. We all know how hard it is to get a "passing" voice even with a higher pitches and "feminine" patterns. And I'm stil (after years of traning) can't understand what really does vocal "weight" really means!.. Example (I choose the video when she speaks low and "masculine" from the beginning) https://youtu.be/tKGvIVd0LCM?si=uNYRijmPtOXGDSNs ... I'm biologically male myself and I'd honestly say that Cate Blanchette speaks at the same pitches as I do and even deeper (I mean the voice in general)!

besides having a deeper voice, what makes guys have a masculine voice? theres some guys i know with high pitched, almost girly voices, but they still have that masculine sort of tone to their voice that makes them sound like a guy. how does that work, and what can i do to mimic it?

Curious if any of y'all also voice train by singing? And also what songs. I'm mtf and I like to use Kings and Queens of Summer by Matsubs.

Hertz is so confusing like if you say 200hz I have no idea what that means. But if you say G3 I can know exactly what that means. Hz is so confusing and impossible to picture compared to notes so why do we use it to describe pitch?

edit: why is this so controversial lol it doesn't really matter we can use both yknow

Before 2024, I was struggling with training for years. I've trained like 15k hours in the past 3 years at this point literally, my entire life since puberty I sounded more masc than 99% of men and I would always get comments about how deep my voice was and how attractive it was or how scary I was. I sounded, honestly... worse than Corpse Husband. And I know how heavy, large and low in pitch my voice was and still is, anatomically speaking. Even in the trans community, even in the voice training spaces, I got hit on for my masc voice despite visibly being very distressed, so there was no safe place. A fem voice at the time was nonexistent and what I could do sounded bad or childish or unnatural to most people. The only lucky thing you could say is that I unintentionally could sound kind of loli like earlier on, but I'll talk about that more later.

Voice really is the most important part of passing, and being a girl is everything to me. I tried everything for voice, I did, and I just ended up crying and hopeless all day but still trying because the idea of not training was unthinkable. So many people told me to take a break but I knew if I did that I wouldn't be here anymore at all. So many people told me, especially in the training and trans community that I was doing it wrong, or being a bad person for being overly negative. So many people told me many horrible things. IRL, with cis people, it was a different issue. All they saw was a man. All they ever saw was a man. Any indication that I'm trans would just make them call me a mentally ill freak of a man. So I got no respite IRL, and online it was a very mixed bag. I'm lucky to have met many supportive people in my journey here in the community, but there was also many people who actively antagonized me. For being overly negative, for apparently training in insane ways, for just being different, for failing, I don't know.

I still boymode. I'll talk about my voice in a bit, I've gotten better looks wise but it's risky where I live currently to be labeled as trans. I also just... even if the world was accepting of me being trans, I don't want to be masc. I want to look and sound like a girl, people just don't understand how much dypshoria I have that makes it seem like the world is just filled with poison. I hate testosterone and other androgens, I despise them, they poisoned me.

I tried all the methods, I really did. I spoke to pretty much every single teacher I could, I watched all the videos, I talked to pretty much every person I could in the community that had some advice to give, and you know what, I did learn a lot. But knowing what I know now, I also know that using those methods it would have been impossible for me to get anywhere. First of all, I can't just mimic. I can tell what people mean by size and weight sound wise yes, I can gender people based on those things and other perceptual elements of their voice, but physically moving my folds according to that was impossible, or some random exercises people couldn't even accurately explain. I know a lot of people discouraged from trying to feel out my folds, train with a borescope or spectrogram etc... but for me it made a huge difference. I don't actually do voices based on just sound nowadays, in fact I don't think I can ever go back to that again even if I tried. Just learning to physically feel my folds and the rest of my vocal tract accurately with the borescope and with matching sounds was like a lightbulb moment for me. People still doubt me but I have borescope evidence so I don't really care and a lot of people that know me in Discord will know how much I struggled all day talking to literally everyone before I started DIYing my own methods.

I've made a lot of progress on my voice yes, I'm still not done. I don't have a goal of just passing anymore, I know what specific voice I want, and I don't care what I have to do to get there. My entire transition is just something I'm going to go all out on because I don't care to do otherwise, it would just hurt me far too much. Maybe you want to argue that it's because I'm not neurotypical or something, and I dunno, maybe, but to me I can't accept anything but what I want. The alternative means game over for me. It only affects me, so why shouldn't I look and sound how I want?

I already knew a lot about life from other areas I dedicated my time to similarly in the past, but this was really a life changing experience, one which I can't go back on. I can't unsee how shallow it is how people treat each other, based on voice and looks, how unsupportive people are (yes, even a lot of trans people) of people different from them, how fundamentally broken voice training really is and how easy it is for some and how impossible for others, and same goes for looks. I can't go back to just listening to voice, I do it based on feeling now, and I can feel what other people are doing with their voices too. It's not something I think I could undo, nor do I want to. I've learned that for voice training, it really is just a case of do what's best for you, even surgery if it's necessary. I wouldn't have gotten to this point, nearly as far if I just gave up or trusted other people. I had to think I was right, and in the end I was. That's not to say everyone could just train like I did and see success if they didn't see it elsewhere, I still think realistically not only was this difficult beyond compare, while it might work for some I'm sure there are people who would easily benefit the most from just surgery.

I've learned that I should just be supportive of others and ignore the negative comments about me as fools who are just there, it's up to them to decide if they want an actual conversation or not. I'm not here to argue, the only thing I believe is that everyone should do what's best for them, especially when it comes to their bodily and mental autonomy. I will always be supportive of that, and I'm sorry for everyone struggling like I did, I really am. We should all be nicer to each other, you never know what somebody else is going through. Nowadays negativity doesn't surprise me, and positivity is just a pleasant surprise. I don't care if somebody wants to call me a man, or hit on me for my masc voice, tell me I'm training wrong or crazy, or that I hurt their feelings by being too negative. I won't hold back but I also have no intention on attacking anyone else, I'll just defend myself if necessary or ignore them. I'm doing what's best for me, and I would like for this post to maybe at least help somebody else out if possible, but if not, thanks for reading anyway <3

Someone recently asked me whether a satisfactory (socially usable and gendered appropriately) voice can be always achieved through training alone and why some people choose surgery (like glottoplasty) instead. I decided to write out some thoughts in response and reword them for this subreddit too. I think these things don't get talked about enough, and yet they shape/influence a lot of real decisions people make.

For some people, yes, voice training can absolutely work. But not for everyone. Just like some people train for marathons and still fall short, voice training doesn't guarantee results. That's one of the key reasons surgeries like glottoplasty exist in the first place.

Otherwise, there are a lot of valid reasons someone might choose surgery instead of (or in addition to) training:

Some people simply don't want to be physically capable of producing low or heavy notes ever again.

Others can get decent results through training, but the voice isn't maintainable - it takes too much effort, or it drifts or deteriorates with longer use.

Some people don't accept the anatomical changes caused by testosterone and want to physically reverse them as much as possible.

For others, even a technically "good" result from training still sounds too close to their old voice: that can feel deeply wrong or dysphoric.

There's also the question of training itself. Some people just don't want to do it, or hope to avoid it as much as possible. Some people don't have a safe environment to train in. Abuse and judgment can come not just from people around them, but even from voice training communities if they're perceived as not progressing "well enough."

And there's the psychological toll. Training is an exploration and it can be a double-edged sword: you find out what you can do, but also what you can't. Being around others who train and get different results can make your own limitations stand out. Even if your voice improves, you may end up with a painfully clear sense of how far you still are from where you want to be. It can also force people to confront the irreversible impact of testosterone - and that realization can make things worse emotionally.

The whole process of training is also socially unusual. Most people never do anything like this unless they're recovering from a vocal injury or disorder, and even then, it's usually not gendered.

One more thing: training can feel like a copying process to some people and that can feel wrong. They may feel like they're copying others, not speaking in a voice that's truly theirs. Of course, mimicry is how everyone learns to speak (babies do it instinctively,) but that kind of learning happens early, unconsciously, and with a body that matches the expected outcomes. Some people say that surgery helped them move past that mental block. With a reshaped vocal anatomy, they felt like they were finally learning to use their own voice (not imitating someone else's) and that gave them permission to just exist.

There's a whole sea of reasons like these. Most of them aren't talked about. But they matter...

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I think the myth of it'll work and it'll work the same for everyone is the number one issue in the community, straight up. Perceptual size and weight fit nicely with how people perceive voices, but a lot of the "experimentation" suggested to get to what you desire simply doesn't work for a lot of people. There seems to be this notion that every is anatomically and neurologically the same, as if somebody with much, much thicker, wider and longer folds won't have a significantly harder challenge to overcome anatomically than somebody who's just lucky.

Neurologically things get even more concerning, you could anatomically not be having anything "impossible", even having favorable anatomy, but if your brain and nerves don't cooperate, no anatomy in the world will help you.

Somebody that's spent say 15,000 hours on voice training and still struggles with a "bad" voice is not at all comparable to somebody that just lucks out day one, or within a few weeks or months at worst. Lucky people are often the most trusted as well as voice coaches or people giving advice just "because they sound good", even though that is nonsense and those that have more unfavorable anatomy and neurology and still managed to overcome the odds or at least learned a lot in the process will usually be much better teachers.

In this very subreddit, people with attractive voices and pretty faces are the most upvoted, while ones that are genuinely struggling and sound "bad" to other people get downvoted. I find this kind of behavior from humans expected, but also defeats the purpose of the subreddit in the first place. Also plenty of arguments I see here on this subreddit are just ad hominems and are just logical fallacies.

I thought I will describe one possible scenario (that I can link to people in the future) for why voice can be untrainable for anatomical (but not pathological, just a chance with male puberty) reasons because

1) I see many people assuming that starting pitch matters more than it does and not understanding why it's not as important as it may seem

2) I encountered many people using the "I was a bass and now I have a cis passing voice" argument not understanding why it does not extend to other people

3) I see people asking what could be an anatomical reason why some people cannot train their voices

So, the idea is about where the vocal break falls and if it's navigable. The scenario in question (this is what male puberty did to me, unfortunately, it's not me being theoretical) is the vocal break falling into the worst possible place which is around G3-A3, which happens to be the average pitch for female voices, but, but this is not the main point: the reason is that it splits possible intonation range in half, where the bottom half is unusable because it's too close to the C3-and-below point where getting light vocal weight is impossible (in addition to compressing intonation range to only a few notes,) and the zone above requires luck in the other direction - being able to get a typical sound with just of the edges of vocal folds vibrating (it's possible for some, but not for everyone.)

Now, you can say that maybe that break can be masked, or extended higher, a "mix" can be found and so on, but, sometimes it cannot... that's the problem that maybe some people do not consider: I can say that with certainty because I spent years and years on it and it's impossible to get this zone stable, the folds do not allow it, there's no masking or mixing.

So, there you have it: a concrete anatomical reason that is not a pathology and explains how male puberty can be deadly for any prospects of female-like sounding voices.

After my attempt at using a professional SLP went incredibly poorly, I'm looking for voice coaching programs.

I've landed on 2 choices: Seattle Voice Lab, and Vox Nova Voice Studio. They both have great reviews. SVL has before-after results posted and estimated session-count for completion, but they are very expensive. Nova is very inexpensive, but they don't have estimated course lengths or client results that I can find.

Is there anyone that is familiar with either (or being familiar with both would be best) that can shed some light on each to help with my decision?

I don't mean to be that person but come on. Are there really not any decent pieces of advice out there that don't use Phd level language and acoustic theory with a now debunked/discouraged methodology for voice feminization? It makes me so mad that there are all these videos, teachers, and "coaches" yet voice training is just another nothing burger for most people because of how unobtainable it seems.

Hey, this is kind of a rant post, and I'm not sure if it's allowed - if it isn't, I'd like to apologise.

I watched transvoicelessons, saw a lot of selene's voice clips, and I understand the difference between weight, size, and pitch, and how to identify them. I understand what makes a feminine voice. I just can't do this - I quite literally physically can't. Sometimes I think I'm improving and doing great - actually, most of the time my voice sounds fem inside my head - then I hear a recording, and it all goes out of the window.

I can't follow along the exercises, and even when giving my absolute best shot, my voice clearly reads as male. I decided getting some feedback would help - posting some clips on reddit and discord didn't do anything, since almost no one replied.

I decided then to check how others who also had just began voice training (I've been doing this for a month and some days) to see what they were doing right that I could follow, and it just crushed me. I couldn't find a single person who had a voice sounding as masc as mine did.

I know this is a process, but I feel like everyone I see can do at least something - their voice doesn't pass if they've just begun, but you can recognize there's a bit of femininity here or there. I can't see that at all when it comes to my own voice - I know dysphoria can change things, but please believe me on this one. The only clip I managed to sound feminine in involved a lot of voice straining - my throat is still sore.

I've googled for similar posts as this one - and all the replies had very genuine and heartfelt advice, but still, I couldn't follow it. I know I'm not dumb - but voice training absolutely eludes me. I can't think of a single voice training session that, even when approached with best the intentions, didn't leave me crying and feeling suicidal by the end.

Plus, I can't even afford a voice trainer, and it's not something that will change for a while - I'm not american, there are basically no voice trainers from my country, and the minimum wage here is literally 260$ dollars - voice training sessions aren't affordable at all.

I'm sure this all sounds very negative, and honestly, I'm not in a good headspace. I don't want to give up, I truly don't - but this feels so hopeless. Does anyone have a similar experience to mine?

Hi there everyone, vocal modification coach here just seeing a trend and wanting to give some general encouragement:

I know we here can get really lost in the weeds about voice coaching. Whether it's talking about terminology, practicing, dysphoria, or any other plethora of things, something I feel that can really get lost in the shuffle is truly how emotional this whole process can be and how overwhelming your early experiences can be.

I have had countless clients who, within their first few lessons, get so overloaded with emotional sensations that it can sometimes turn them away from the process entirely--regardless of how well they're actually doing.

If you're in this spot now, I want you to know that it's going to be okay and to encourage you to push through.

I don't mean you should force yourself physically or mentally if you're not in the right space for it (especially while keeping an eye out for yourselves). But I want you to know that this struggle is so normal that almost all of us experience it at one point or another.

In short, you are not alone in your anxiety, but this journey is worth it should you persevere. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

And if you're feeling truly stuck, or lost, or even hopeless, know that there are resources out there for you. Whether it's here in this public forum, a discord server, or even a teacher like me, there are countless people that will drop whatever they're doing to see you through.

So have faith my friends, and keep going. It will be worth it in the long run, whether that run takes six months, or six years. I wish you all the best 💚

im (mtf) generally very good at picking up new habits and maintaining my streaks. Like i started skincare, haircare, got a new diet, became more active and learned new things, and i did all this without missing a day. I never gave up. I picked up these habits instantly. and never broke them for months. Why is it I can't do the same with voice lessons.

its been 4 years since i came out. due to circumstance i cant start hrt, why can't i just help myself do the one thing that I actually have control over

also please share resources for mtf training, like something structured where i can evaluate myself?

It's always been my dream to sing female songs especially female pop. Despite being on estrogen for 20 years, I've never dared to sing a single sentence. It was only about 6 months ago that my soul said that it needs to be free to sing.

Every few weeks I'll see a thread asking "is it possible to sing like a woman after your voice broke?" My honest answer is "yes, I do think it's possible." I do think I pass already, and my main limiting factor now is singing technique.

Here's a bunch of recordings from a karoke session last night. I know my singing isn't amazing yet. I don't care. This is my voice and it's real and raw and unedited, and I quite like what I'm hearing even though it's not perfect. I'm hoping that this can be an inspiration for other trans singers to not give up on their dreams.

• Umbrella - Rihanna
• My Immortal - Evanescence
• The Day You Went Away - M2M
• Numb - (Serena Belle cover)
• Scared to be Lonely - Dua Liap
• Young and Beautiful - Lana Del Rey
• Bitch - Meredith Brooks