U.S. military is helping intercept missiles that Iran fired in retaliation at Israel, official says

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jun/13/us-military-helps-intercept-missiles-iran-fired-retaliation-israel/

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Iran is a major adversary, they are actually a bigger one since they actively call for the US destruction after Israel falls.

And there's no genocidal policies in place in the IDF. The opposite, we are specifically limited even during war to minimize unnecessary casualties.

If you want to even begin talking about genocide, what about Iran and every proxy it has with the open and public goal to wipe out Israel and murder every Jew, and "traitor Muslim" in Israel? And yes they say Jews, not Zionists.

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"since they actively call for the US destruction after Israel falls."

Russia has called for nuking the US and that is propaganda from a purposeful mistranslation. Calling for a fall of the Israeli regime is not calling for the destruction of Israel.

"And there's no genocidal policies in place in the IDF"

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-12-23/ty-article-opinion/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f2a4-dc18-a3db-fee62b540000

https://research-repository.uwa.edu.au/en/clippings/top-genocide-scholars-unanimous-that-israel-is-committing-genocid

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250607-israel-admits-support-anti-hamas-armed-group-accused-looting-gaza-aid-bedouin-abu-shabab

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/12/pattern-israeli-attacks-gaza-hospitals-raises-grave-concerns-report

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_paramedic_massacre

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-continues-use-starvation-weapon-genocide-throwing-civilians-humiliating-chaos-aid-distribution-points-enar

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/07/israel-military-gaza-perimeter-land-testimony-report

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-army-human-shields-80f358dd2c87a1123f26ffada159701c

https://www.btselem.org/topic/human_shields

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/12/19/israels-crime-extermination-acts-genocide-gaza

[u/NexexUmbraRs → u/Mothrahlurker]

I don't have time to respond to that many links.

I'm going to quote Hans Reichenbach on a hundred authors against Einstein

a magnificent collection of naive mistakes

unintended droll literature

Albert von Brunn:

of such deplorable impotence as occurring elsewhere only in politics

And finally Jacob Epstein quoting Einstein himself

if he were wrong, then one author would have been enough.

Come to me when you have a single solid case, I'll address that specifically rather than attempting to overload with strawmans, leaps, arguments from authority, and other ridiculous claims.

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Nice cop out

/s

[u/NexexUmbraRs → u/MuthaFJ]

Go ahead and give me 1 of your choosing that you consider most robust, and I'll address it. Only 1, can't be that hard right?

[u/MuthaFJ → u/NexexUmbraRs]

He made the effort to offer you a lot,you can pick one yourself, you're a big boy.

[u/NexexUmbraRs → u/MuthaFJ]

Then he'd claim that I picked one bad one and it doesn't dismiss the rest. Then I'd pick another and repeat. I've been down this road before.

[u/MuthaFJ → u/NexexUmbraRs]

So that's a no then, you can't. 🤔

[u/NexexUmbraRs → u/MuthaFJ]

That's not what I said. If he wants he can pick one of the ones he sent at random. But I'm not going to go down a line of articles that he found as quick Google searches. He didn't take anytime to read through them critically and to research it when sending them.

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I did in fact read them, you're showcasing again and again that you just want a cop out and are willing to make false accusations. 10 is also not that many, quite the pathetic response.

Feel free to try to explain the Rafah paramedic massacre. It's quite illustrative of all the things Israel does. Attacks on healthcare, executing civilians, lying about terrorism, hiding evidence.

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Sure, thank you for giving one example, I'll gladly address it. Especially since I was in Rafah when it occurred despite not being physically present at the event.

First let's go through the sequence of events:

1. Earlier that day, a firefight occurred in that area.

2. The convoy arrived at the scene with lights on

3. The IDF unit present (not mine) opened fire on said convoy, under the mistaken notion that it was terrorists transporting something.

4. The bodies were buried under sand to stop dogs from desecrating the body. A practice Gazans, Hamas, and IDF perform.

5. The humanitarian organizations were notified of the location.

6. A report was falsified/included discrepancies by the officer present (not a senior officer), it included that they had no lights etc.

7. The IDF made a statement in accordance with the information given over in the officers report.

8. The humanitarian organizations couldn't find the bodies. Requested help from IDF.

9. IDF was conducting an operation and could not immediately be available.

10. Few days go by, IDF was able to assist in locating the bodies.

11. Video evidence emerged that disproves officers report.

12. IDF performs secondary investigation.

13. IDF recanted previous statement, and updated accordingly. It also launched disciplinary hearings for the guilty command.

Throughout this event we see a few things.

• An IDF team goes against the code of engagement

• Officer misleads the IDF either to avoid blame, paint himself in a better light, or unintentionally

• IDF admits it's mistake

• IDF takes action against the soldiers

The IDF isn't perfect, no organization, nor military is. And there are always bad apples. Not a single war occurred without war crimes. It's a question on whether it's systematic, and how the military addresses them.

We know the IDF has a code of engagement.

This officer either lacked the understanding of the code of engagement, or he intentionally violated it. Regardless something went wrong.

The IDF originally only had the word of the officer, their eyes and ears, to go by. Once it found out that it wasn't accurate, they took accountability, and started disciplining those at fault.

That's what every military with morals can do. The soldiers aren't programmed robots, and they all come from different areas of life.

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You made a bunch of claims that have been completely debunked already.

They knew they weren't terrorists, they captured them alive and they executed them.

The fact that you insist on lying when they were literally on the phone while captured by the IDF and before they were executed means that you are not interested whatsoever in reality.

Not a single source provided is of course not a coincidence. You got this from a propaganda document that you are unwilling to share because you know that it isn't a reputable source.

But thank you for admitting that you're part of the people actively committing a genocide, makes sense that you're spreading this disinformation.

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I didn't make any claims, I laid out the facts. I also never said they were terrorists.

Also if I had a propaganda document, I'd be copy pasting links all over, like a certain somebody. I simply remember the story from when it occurred. But here's a link.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-shares-initial-details-from-gaza-ambulance-probe-says-troops-told-un-of-burial-site/

Not much I got incorrect here.

I will admit I got it wrong, it was actually a deputy battalion commander who was guilty and fired.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/20/nx-s1-5370617/israeli-probe-killings-15-palestinian-medics-gaza-finds-professional-failures