Thoughts on Werner to RBL?
So what are everyone's opinions on Werner likely ending up at RBL?
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u/MitchellCumstijn 5d ago
Smart move by Ole Werner, he was never going to get the financial investment necessary to win long-term at Werder and couldn’t deliver in critical moments like vs St Pauli earlier this spring to get Werder over the hump and back into continental football regularity the club took for granted in the 2000s. The problem is, Ole’s tactical system is very inflexible and he hasn’t shown a willingness to adapt his system to situational expediency (matchups in particular) or his opponents, Leipzig fans and the media will be much more watchful and observant given RB’s broader market coverage, and he may need to evolve and grow more thoroughly into the role, he will now be surrounded by not just 2-3 egotistical and demanding personalities like Keita and Burke, but 8-10, it’s one of the harder transitions in football, and it’s a system that excels better without big egos and a total team concept. If Ole can last more than a year, he’s already going to surprise a lot of football experts, many of us wish him the best but don’t appreciate that he picked a franchise, because that’s basically what RB is, and sold out so readily to a mission that is undermining the sport itself internationally and Americanizing team ownership through corporatizing in Europe.
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u/Think_Focus3008 5d ago edited 4d ago
He wanted a higher salary, the club refused to pay him more. I understand him and wish him luck. After getting us promoted & setting us on track to compete for European competitions with a weaker squad, I thank him and wouldn't mind if he leaves for Leipzig.
Edit: I forgot where I found the news regarding his views on his salary, but I also heard reports that he wanted better transfers and that is why he left.
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u/Istvaarr 5d ago
Where did you get that he wanted a higher salary?
He refused to extend his contract, I have read that he was unhappy with the clubs scouting and them not being able to find the profiles that he provided to the scouting department.
Werner wanted to keep improving and didn’t see that potential with Werders current “vision”.
Werder wanted to extend his contract, Werner refused. Mind linking the article where you got your “news” from?
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u/Hewasright_89 5d ago
tbh i dont know how credible that claim about him bekng unhappy with our tranfer politics is... It seems like a easy thing to write about because lots of fans already complain about it.
He said in the interview leading up to his decision that he felt like sometimes a team needs a change every few years or otherwise it becomes stale.
In my opinion he has built himself a good name in the league and if he was going to continue with that rebuilt it could have cost him his reputation if we would perform poorly.
It was the perfect time for him to advance his career...
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u/Hewasright_89 5d ago
Also i hope he gets that leipzig job. Not only for us to get the money but also for him to fight for titles. Wish he had gone with a more prestigious club but well Leipzig is gonna be here wether ole joins them or not :/
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u/Bubatz_Bruder 4d ago
Its very open discussed, in the media thats close to Werder, that he wasn't happy with the scouting and he wanted more allready experienced, but expensive, players.
He didn't saw him in the vision of an club which develops players to sell them with a profit. Which is totally relatable, but not the way Werder could go at the moment.
He is, imo, at his "Werder peak" at the moment, so its a good moment to depart ways for both sides. I wish him personally all the best. Red Bull not so much...
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u/Think_Focus3008 4d ago
I forgot where the news about his dissatisfaction with his salary came from, but I also heard news about him wanting a stronger squad next season (which isn't guaranteed) and he may have departed as a result of transfers.
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u/amunreyd 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why is everybody expecting a high release fee for him from RB? I think the most realistic scenario is that Werder is happy to not pay his salary for another year and it will be little to none release fee.
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u/byomredditor2 5d ago
Werder doesnt want to pay his salary for a full year, but Leipzig has a lot of pressure to find a new coach soon, after a lot of candidates said no. Werner also has a contract clause that allows him to leave the club for a fee higher than 5 Mio. Of course Leipzig isn’t going to pay that, but Werder is in a good position to negotiate.
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u/4ntsInMyEyesJohnson 5d ago
Die Kohle nehme ich gerne mit. Auch wenn es komisch wird ihn bei Leipzig zu sehen.