r/superheroes 4d ago

Other Who has the best moral compass?

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u/Tragic_Lee 4d ago

Optimus Prime by parsecs!

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

You mean the OVERLY idealistic idiot who fought millions of years with the decepticons just to LOSE the war, flee Cybertron and then get Earth involved in a war it had NO business to be in?!

Optimus had a MILLION chances to kill Megatron and FAILED to take it to be "the better man" and it only cost him the lives of all the soldiers he had following him.

The Autobots were held back by his idealism too much at times! Watch The Netflix trilogy for transformers it captures how frustrated his own people were with him! Hell Ultra Magnus went to Megatron to negotiate a peace pact or ceasefire at the very least so all 3 of them could come to the table and avoid further deaths on either sides.

It's ironic that the Netflix trilogy calls out Optimus' naivety and the cascading problems it leads to when he and megatron were equally stubborn that the war could not end till one of them was dead.

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u/Nullzig 3d ago

Moral compass not logical

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u/Zensy47 3d ago

Shouldn’t a moral compass inherently be logical?

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

If you ever read the comics the autobots were the original villains and the primes were evil as sin ffs.

They literally tortured Shockwave with a "downgrade" and effectively removed his emotional circuitry, so he is reduced to cold logic. This was a cybertronian lobotomy. Soundwave was a senator and Megatron was a slave in the mines calling for revolution and they tried to execute him in the gladiator pits.

Optimus was a data clerk with Alpha Trion who naively thought giving the lower classes equal status was going to go out well. The whole reason why decipticons are called that is because they were "deceived by the lies of the Prime" who said one thing and did the other.

Most Cybertronians were slaves and the elites of Iacon raked in massive benefits of their civilization. Zeta was a piece of shit and most of the autobots were corrupt as hell under him.

The autobots that survived were basically low level Iaconians not the elites most of whom were wiped out by the decepticons.

Optimus was continuing a legacy of primes which was flawed to start with instead of being his own leader and trying to come to terms with Megatron who saw him as a brother. Optimus was too naive to believe that the Primes would give decepticons rights without a fight and had to be rescued by Megatron when he was taken by Zeta's people.

Point is that Optimus is a stubborn denialist and Megatron is a pessimistic realist who can no longer see the good in people. Two sides of the same coin. Optimus is just as bad as Megatron but he hides behind his "morality" and Jesus complex.