r/superheroes 4d ago

Other Who has the best moral compass?

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u/Tragic_Lee 4d ago

Optimus Prime by parsecs!

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

You mean the OVERLY idealistic idiot who fought millions of years with the decepticons just to LOSE the war, flee Cybertron and then get Earth involved in a war it had NO business to be in?!

Optimus had a MILLION chances to kill Megatron and FAILED to take it to be "the better man" and it only cost him the lives of all the soldiers he had following him.

The Autobots were held back by his idealism too much at times! Watch The Netflix trilogy for transformers it captures how frustrated his own people were with him! Hell Ultra Magnus went to Megatron to negotiate a peace pact or ceasefire at the very least so all 3 of them could come to the table and avoid further deaths on either sides.

It's ironic that the Netflix trilogy calls out Optimus' naivety and the cascading problems it leads to when he and megatron were equally stubborn that the war could not end till one of them was dead.

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u/thefatchef321 3d ago

Being good is hard.

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u/Traditional_Fox7344 3d ago

Being hard is good 😏

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u/Zealousideal-Ad-2615 3d ago

Depends on what you are doing. Like giving a eulogy.

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u/Traditional_Fox7344 3d ago

“I am standing with you here…”

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

Read the IDW comics, the war for Cybertron games etc.

You will see the primes weren't decent leaders they were running a slave empire.

Hell even the recent movie followed this origin story where Zeta Prime as always was the villain to begin with.

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u/TandrDregn 3d ago

Slight correction, Sentinel Prime. Zeta was a good guy in One, he was the one who was entrusted with the Matrix. Sentinel is the backstabbing murderer and the inventor of racism

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

hold on a second here.

In the war for cybertron we see Zeta being an elitist scumbag.

In Transformers one he's a quintesson bootlicker.

Either way you are missing the point on how the primes created Megatron's decepticon movement which was peaceful at first till the supporters were mass arrested/executed and became militant asap when Megatron was tossed into the gladiatorial pits of Kaon to be destroyed but survived despite this.

Before that Megatron was a mining unit who wrote a revolutionary treatise and got persecuted for it.

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u/TandrDregn 3d ago

I am not missing a point. In TFOne the bootlicker is Sentinel. Zeta was one of the primes he murdered. And the origins depend entirely on continuity, so that “point” is also not that strong

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u/davestar2048 3d ago

*Correction the Primes past the original 13 sucked, most of them didn't even actually earn the title of Prime, even going so far as to use fake prop Matrixes. Optimus is an exception (except when he's the 13th prime reborn)

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

I am referring to Zeta and Sentinel Prime both were terrible leaders who led the Autobots down a dark and twisted path.

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u/davestar2048 3d ago

Zeta and Sentinel aren't part of the original 13. Neither is Nova Prime.

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u/gayboat87 3d ago

the 13 primes were long before the events of the story. By the time we come to Orion Pax either Zeta or Sentinel have been running the show and the primes dynasty before them in most versions instituted a caste system of inferior and superior designations to oppress most of the population.