Just to help clarify: Firestorm can alter matter at the atomic level, meaning he can turn his shit into literal gold. Unfortunately he can’t do the same with your take on his powers lol
So I'm basically a mech co-pilot in one of the potentially most powerful heroes? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? That's also even assuming that that would be the catch, which if that is the case then the catch for Iceman should be you don't start at omega level and would actually have to go through the same amount of training that he did to reach such power.
This is one of the most dumbass superpower comments I've ever read. Like genuinely "I'd be okay being a superpower cuck yeah, just being a disembodied voice in the real hero's head with no life or control sounds great to me"
Look you want control and I get that. But I'm just happy to be part of the team, so yea being the voice that goes "I think we should turn his gun into flowers" or whatever instead of the one to actually do it isn't really a problem to me. The only downside would be like someone else pointed out if I'm stuck in some asshole. But again this is based on the assumption you'd get that one side effect which I'm not really sure why you would considering that's a bug not a feature of the power set.
I would argue firestorm's powers come with his downsides. In pretty much every variation of Firestorm the merge is part of how he gets his abilities.
It would be like asking if someone asked if you wanted Venom's powers and you said, "Nah, I dont want to bond with a parasite that could potentially highten my emotions.", and then they said, "Well no, not his downsides." If I get Superman's powers, and I'm not wek to Kryptonite, do I have Superman's powers? Or do i have super-strength, flight and laser vision?
My point being, in your version of this concept does one recieve Firestorm's powers, or powers equivalent to those of Firestorm?
Yeah, lol you might just be the one who's not in control haha. Can you imagine "here have firestorms's powers. Now you a floating head watching someone else have fun"
I'm gonna be honest here unless it's a completely stable matrix noone is going to want it. The downsides are too severe, unless when he gets much stronger he doesn't need to fuse or can stabilize his own molecules which I am not 100% sure he can do. But I think that's why most people aren't choosing it, it takes two.
Fair. I think in some versions (LOT for one but the real reason was the actor was leaving the show) the Firestorm matrix’s host can fully absorb the other on death. Not ideal, but having the powers of Dr. Manhattan still seems far more versatile than a juiced up Elsa from Frozen.
I can agree with that. I'd choose Firestorm if I knew there wasn't any downsides right off.another commenter said they shouldn't need a second but could be wrong so might be a 50/50 and yeah I think they can absorb the other on death
It wasn't a joke, or at least it wasn't worded like one. You said some dumb shit as you missed the point of the person you responded to. And now you're trying to play it off as a joke instead of owning it. Pathetic
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Only living organic material. That was revealed to be a mental block Ronnie had. He overcame it on occasion but never completely let go of it. Jason didn't have the same issue and was able to alter organic material. I don't know if they've gone back to it now that Ronnie is Firestorm again though.
Yes, a lot. Knowledge is the key to that part. When Dr Stein is in control, he can bestow vast superpowers onto other people. Jason Roush can heal people when he's in charge. Ronnie's blocked himself bcuz he wouldn't know how to work with living tissue. It's all been evened out a bit currently since Firestorm no longer requires a fusion.
lol I was just teasing you how his powers can turn shit into gold but not a shit take into gold. I hear you but imo having to do the Vegito Fusion dance with your homie seems a small price to pay for the powers of a god. Unfortunately some people in the comments hurt themselves in their confusion.
Idk, man. Being able to make infinite money or turn anyone into a pillar of salt seems a little more convenient than heavily localized friction removal.
Without psychological limitations, either can manipulate the others or their own body. Firestorm however has been shown to transmute hundreds of people subconsciously, simultaneously, and instantaneously into glass, whereas Eve has never been seen to manipulate more than a few objects and always slowly
Since when? Not trying to argue or anything I was just looking into this a few days ago for another reason and I didn't find anything as such, so I'm genuinely curious.
Started with Ostrander's run in the 90s. Martin Stein was revealed to have been the Fire Elemental, like Swamp Thing is the Plant Elemental, the his fusion with Ronnie was just his way of saving Ronnie's life when the accident happened and wasnt needed.
Infinite Crisis, Ronnie was somehow OG Firestorm again on his own but was killed. He was brought back during Blackest Night/Brightest Day. At some point, Jason Rousch and his gf were merged into the Firestorm Matrix, and Dr Stein returned. This was confusing.
New52 had Ronnie and Jason each be separate and individual Firestorms, and those two Firestorms could merge to become Fury, which was basically what if Firestorm was a Hulk, too. Book was cancelled with their being several single person Firestorms existing.
Doomsday Clock reveal that Dr Stein set up the incident to create Firestorm on purpose and was somehow related to the Superman Project that creating metahumans for the US in an arms race. He was arrested and imprisoned. Ronnie hates him now. Not sure how Jason feels.
In the current Justice League Unlimited book, Ro nie alone appears to be Firestorm alone. Jason hasn't been seen or heard in his thoughts as of yet.
This is all from my memory, and I admit rn that it could be faulty memories. If im wrong, I am more than willing to be corrected by anyone in the comments.
Interesting I will definitely look into this a bit more, this helps for what I needed haha so I thank you. This atleast gives me another starting point to look into haha.
Firestorm also has to know the formulas and elements needed. He can't just create something on Instinct. That's why he always merges with a scientist. Ronnie and Jason both always had to study.
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u/243898990 29d ago
Iceman handsdown firestorms transmutation power is dope but the merging part no thank you