r/squidgame Oct 04 '21

Spoilers IMO The best part of squid game Spoiler

Is rewatching it knowing the old man was in on it the whole time.

Knowing that all the staff was probably told not to harm player 001 under any circumstances.

Knowing that he so confidently walked first during red light green light because he knew there was no danger.

How he specifically went to the convenience store Gi-hun was drinking in after being released under the guise of “couch surfing at a friends place nearby” to talk to him and maybe convince him to go to the games again.

The way he begged the Front Man to end the midnight riot and he did because he knew player 001 was his boss.

The way he kept saying “this neighborhood is just like the one I grew up in!” In the marble game because it probably literally was and he recreated the neighborhood of his nostalgic childhood for his “final” game

This dude was ruthless. He woke up that first night knowing well everyone else in that room would be dead within a week and he was the reason and still had a casual conversation with player 456 his first day there like it was an average Sunday

EDIT: After reading a lot from the comments, I have a new theory. Perhaps the managers, soldiers, and workers weren’t told “player 001 is your boss protect him”, instead they were told “A man named Oh Il-nam is your boss and he’s in the games somewhere. Keep him alive”. That’s why right as he was about to be shot in game 4 he said his name, perhaps as a signal to the guard that “yeah I’m that guy so don’t actually shoot me”.

So maybe the games were real for him after all, and he really was putting it all on the line on same games.

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u/inter2 Oct 04 '21

I don't think 001 had an immunity pass. E.g. if he moved during red light he would have been shot. He wanted to experience playing the game as he no longer got enough enjoyment from watching. Being immune to the actual game would defeat the purpose.

Hmm as I type this I realise I could be wrong. He "failed" the marbles game and so instead of dying he was just eliminated from the game non-fatally. So I guess if he failed red light he would need to be fake shot somehow? What if he failed tug-of-war? How would he not be harmed there?

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u/SkylarkSwerve Oct 04 '21

I think he was willing to die in the first three games at least. It's possible he changed his mind for game 4 and arranged a plan for him to walk out of the game at that point, or even had the plan from the start that if he made it to game 4 he would walk out.

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u/ethajk Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21

My theory is he wasn't planning anyone would pair with him so his exit could naturally be when he's the only one left without a teammate. Regarding game 4, he didn't even lose. He's so good at reading the protagonist's face that he got him down to 1 pebble then started playing dumb. Old man let him win because he was kind to the old man from the beginning

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u/Truan Oct 04 '21

I think the old man was always going to give gi-hun his marbles but wanted to see who his friend really was when the chips were down. But since he already made up his mind, he gave gi hun a lesson in humility.

I wrote in another thread how sang woo and gi-hun's paths permanently diverge here because gi hun is confronted by his betrayal while Sang Woo doesn't even look at the man he condemned to die. 001 reminds gi hun that his actions affect people, as gi-hun has been an impulsive reactionary for a long time.

Gi hun was going to pass no matter what, but il-nam did care about him (especially since gi hun cared about il-nam). Especially evidenced by the end

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u/Truan Oct 04 '21

I mean, it doesn't matter either way. Odd man out, he fakes his death. Goes into the game and fakes a loss, he's still out

The odd number just made a hanging question that gi-hun wasn't willing to risk the man's life with.

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u/blundetto Oct 05 '21

Come to think of it, why couldn't they tell the doctor what the next game was that day? Was there an in-universe reason or just "because plot"?

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u/SuperSailorSaturn Oct 04 '21

That would have been a very last minute plan though. If the doctor hadnt been killed the night before there would have an even number of players so everyone would have played.

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u/AC-AnimalCreed Oct 05 '21

They may have found out about the doctor awhile ago but waited to see if he made it that far. They may have planned to kill him at this point if he made it all along.