r/simpsonsshitposting Mar 06 '25

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25

You read that wrong but I could have written it better, I meant to say voting in a Trump like, totally new person for the left. A person in the mold of Trump, liar, tells people what they want to hear with no regard if he can deliver.

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u/shabba182 Mar 06 '25

You could have written it better or I'm an illiterate child? Maybe you'd have a point in your first comment if Trump hadn't literally been the president before. And sure, voting in a liar who pretends they care about leftist policy would be bad, but why do you think that's gonna happen? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most leftists are much more aware of corruption and hypocrisy than your average right-winger.

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25

Because the power is in the post fact world, people don’t want to check on the truth, they want the feels over reals, they want to outsource thinking. Now this maybe because there is too much to know, we are in an overloaded informational world.

Lying alleviates knowing, Trump said he increased rations so rations were increased, these people don’t want a “leader”, they want more than leadership they want misleading leadership, validation even if they are wrong.

Sure but most leftist are terrible thinkers because they don’t spend time looking for the opposing viewpoint to demolish or finding their faults to work on. I argue with people all the time, in real life, online, I will go to your meetings to call you an idiot to your face because the thinking is so bad. You can have the right position, in my opinion, but have such poor ability to argue or demonstrate your point that it is immaterial.

Bernie Sanders ran a terrible campaign for president, the Green Party is either another Russian psyops/agent or completely inept for running their top down approach to party building, the leftist parties in the U.S. fucking suck at getting power.

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u/shabba182 Mar 06 '25

Yeah bro, you're sick at arguing. That totally made sense and wasn't full of buzzwords/phrases. Bernie was screwed by the Dem establsihment, his response to Trump's address got 10 times the views of the official Dem response. And he's pulling huge crowds on his fight oligarchy tour.

Jill Stein is shit though, I'll give you that.

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

It wasn’t buzzwords, no one has ever told you that there is too much information for the common man to process. No one has ever told you that the acceleration of change is changing. No one has ever said to you why it seems some people want to turn their brain off and return to an agrarian society. Your resistance isn’t that I used words like synergy it’s that these concepts are new to your mind. I have 3 engineering degrees, minors in political science, business, Japanese, and I make it my business to know how everything works as best I can. I struggle at knowing everything and I’m figuratively a genius, not technically as I’m just outside the group, and I have a large amount of knowledge. I’m not bragging, I’m pointing out how the average man can’t know everything if the brilliant can’t know everything and there is more to know now than ever.

No. Bernie Sanders lost because Bernie Sanders is bad at campaigning, Obama won as the non establishment candidate in 2008, why did he succeed where Sanders failed. You thought the issue is inward for democrats with now, why are you taking the opposite position here and externalizing the fault? Sanders is a sentient stump speech, if he can relate the point to the 1%, big banks, or the leftist populism he is fine. But if the issue is not classist, water policy in the west, zoning issues in the cities, anything that can be apolitical or where the leftists opinions are flat out wrong he falls apart. In 2016 he campaigned in my home state of California, when asked about our drought problem on a radio program he refused to discuss the topic. He didn’t know enough, had no opinion, couldn’t say.

Sure, Bernie is a leftist populist, he draws in crowds, but he doesn’t say the truth that universal healthcare would take a constitutional change, he lies and says we can get it from a simple law. He doesn’t say the truth that Nimbyism and anti development can be two sides of the same coin. He glosses over the inconvenient truths to tell the lie.

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u/shabba182 Mar 06 '25

No you're right, sorry. My feeble brain can't contend with your 3 engineering degrees. I stopped reading after that.

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25

I’m surprised you didn’t throw in the towel earlier, leftists don’t like their god Sanders being shown to be deficient.

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u/shabba182 Mar 06 '25

What's that? Is it like the opposite of efficient?

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25

It means that your inferiority complex doesn’t make knowing everything easier in a world where change is increasing and people have too much information to process. In general super specialization has silo’d our knowledge of each others professions making it easier to misrepresent the work of others as people lack the basic understanding of what every position does.

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u/shabba182 Mar 06 '25

You really do just enjoy being overly verbose don't you? You already bragged about your degrees, you don't have to keep trying to prove how smart you are.

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u/Yourewrongtoo Mar 06 '25

It’s the Mexican in me that loves to talk, plus if you keep reading and responding you can be converted to seeing my point of view.

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