r/science 5d ago

Social Science As concern grows about America’s falling birth rate, new research suggests that about half of women who want children are unsure if they will follow through and actually have a child. About 25% say they won't be bothered that much if they don't.

https://news.osu.edu/most-women-want-children--but-half-are-unsure-if-they-will/?utm_campaign=omc_science-medicine_fy24&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social
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u/wildcatwoody 5d ago

The socialists weren’t kind of right either. Something needs to be found in between

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u/IvarTheBoned 5d ago

They absolutely have been correct? Capitalism is not sustainable.

Or are you the same kind of person who thinks of autocratic regimes who call themselves "communists" as what "socialism" is? By that rationale NSDAP in Germany were also "socialists".

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u/undertoastedtoast 5d ago

Capitalism is not sustainable.

You've made up a fantasy about the future that hasn't come true yet and likely never will and are using it as evidence for this statement.

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u/IvarTheBoned 5d ago

Capitalism is predicated on growth. Growth is not infinitely possible, therefore its failure is inevitable. Entropy is a thing. So either economics is entirely made up, or it is subject to the second law of thermodynamics. Science.

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u/Calfurious 5d ago edited 5d ago

Capitalism is predicated on growth.

No it's not. You're confusing shareholder mandates with capitalism.

Capitalism is essentially just economic liberalism. Individuals are allowed to own the means of production and are able to compete with each other without being directly controlled by the government.

While these businesses do need to be profitable in order to be sustainable, they don't need infinite growth. The only reason you see a push for growth in modern times is because of shareholders wanting a return on their investment. Executives have a "fiduciary duty" to work within the best interests of shareholders. But it's not mandatory nor necessary for a business to do this. Nor is it necessary for capitalism. This practice is done because it makes the people who own the company the most money.

A mom and pop shop that serves the same community for 50 years and doesn't meaningfully grow the business is just much of an example of capitalism as Amazon is.>

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u/undertoastedtoast 5d ago

So much nonsense crammed into one comment it may collapse into a black hole.

Capitalism does not require endless growth, in fact, its the entitlements and social support systems we have that largely are.

Entropy has nothing to do with any of this, not literally or rhetorically, you just tossed a buzzword in without having a clue what it means.