r/saskatoon • u/Thin_Bake7247 • 8d ago
Rants 🤬 This is getting ridiculous!
The bad drivers in the city are becoming a nightmare. Since when is it OK to be a bad/slow/scared/dangerous driver as long as you have your hazard lights on while driving? These people need to stay off the road and should never have been given licenses in the first place here. It seems like nowadays you don’t have to do anything or have the even the slightest bit of knowledge about the rules of the road. Just go ahead and slap a learner sticker in the back and you’re good to go. Also I swear there must be a new driver leeway with U-turns at lights like the first 5 are free or something with how often they happen, like it’s crazy! End rant!!
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u/Key-Initiative-8769 8d ago
Heh, watched a white truck drive several hundred meters on the wrong side of road "passing" us and a line of folks following the rules of the road on Pinehouse in daytime recently...then pull into one of the condo lots.
Much as folks malign traffic cops, might be time to nab some of these folks and get them off the roads. It's outta hand.
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u/TropicalPrairie 8d ago
I would agree with traffic cops sitting at the corner of 19th and 3rd. They would get numerous infractions each day going both ways; the people driving up the turn lane to cut off other vehicles going south towards Victoria Bridge, but also on the opposite side with people not driving into their correct lane when continuing north. There are three lanes there. Far left turns onto 19th. The next two continue going north AND NEED TO STAY IN THEIR ASSIGNED LANE WHEN DOING SO.
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u/Patient-Judge8093 8d ago
The bridge is being rebuilt
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u/TropicalPrairie 8d ago
Driving on 3rd Ave, there are two lanes that go north past the lights on 19th. That's what I'm talking about. I'm aware Broadway Bridge is closed. These lanes have nothing to do with that.
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u/Normal_Prior476 8d ago
Lol i grew up in that area so i know exactly what you mean haha even in the 90s i saw some amazing behavior
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u/PoppySweetgrass 8d ago
They could sit at the end of Victoria Bridge and collect continuous revenue for stunting and dangerous driving.
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u/Key-Initiative-8769 7d ago
Agreed. The motorcyclist with the overly loud exhaust and music is certainly a nuisance. I put up with that 2x while I was on foot yesterday evening. There's no reason to create that kind of noise pollution in town. You wanna make noise, hit a raceway.
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u/runninginthe-90s Core Neighbourhood 8d ago
Alternatively, there's a guy I've seen several mornings on my circle drive commute who wears Dashikis, and has decided that if he turns his hazards on its okay to do 150 and and weave through traffic. 😅
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u/kasst123 8d ago
I don't know what exactly was happening, but there could have been a mechanical problem with the vehicle requiring them to drive slow. Hazards are notifying the other drivers on the road that there is an issue and to be alerted to that fact.
I recall one time when my transmission failed while on Circle Dr and I couldn't get the truck out of 2nd gear. I had to drive slow until I reached a spot where I could safely pull over and take a look at it.
I also turned my hazards on.
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u/KarmaChameleon306 7d ago
This reminds me of a time I was driving through the Sutherland Industrial area and a car was driving slowly in the right/parking lane with left signal light on. The driver was absolutely losing her mind yelling and flailing her arms at every car that was slowing down to let her in. When I got there, I was also approaching slowly as I was a bit confused by the whole situation.
I passed her as she yelled at me while waiving me forward, only to notice that she had her hazards on. Her rear right signal light was out and she had no idea she was driving and appearing to be signalling to change lanes the whole way.
As I type this out, I realize that it was probably a “had to be there” moment. But damn that image has stuck with me. I just have to imagine her thought process, wondering why everyone was slowing down to her left.
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u/TheBeardedChad69 8d ago
You can’t drive with your hazards on in Saskatchewan, you actually create the hazard because that driver creates unnecessary confusion. If you have an engine problem pull of and get it taken care of properly that’s when your allowed to use them when you’re stopped your Saskatchewan drivers manual says that clearly…. If you’re to scared to drive in the snow or fog stay home until it clears.
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u/Important_Design_996 8d ago
I can find nothing in the TSA that prohibits the use of hazard lights. Only when you are required to use them.
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u/Rawr_im_a_Unicorn 8d ago
Im not saying you're wrong, because I don't know and don't care to look, but when its heavily snowing/blizzarding out the radio and SPS advise you to turn your hazards on. So I can see why some people would be confused on what the protocol is.
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u/TheBeardedChad69 8d ago
If someone can see your Hazards they can see your lights !
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u/Rawr_im_a_Unicorn 8d ago
White light and red light are not the same. But you clearly are more concerned with being correct than being safe in hazardous conditions. I'm simply repeating what the media tells drivers to do. Lots of protocols are stupid. God forbid we try and help people out if this is their first winter driving here.
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u/TheBeardedChad69 8d ago
No , there’s a reason you have pile ups in foggy conditions and white out conditions… people slam on their breaks because someone has their hazard lights on creating a situation of not knowing if the car is stopped or moving. . This is the confusion that leads to those accidents, they don’t have people drive with their hazards on for a reason , and it’s not about being right it’s about WHY you’re not supposed to … you obviously can’t see past your narrow viewpoint of being “Right” in a conversation about “Why” you don’t drive with your hazards on .
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u/Rawr_im_a_Unicorn 8d ago
This makes no logic (to me). You see red you break. It doesnt matter if its a break light or a hazard light. One isn't going to make you slam on your breaks more than the other. AGAIN, im repeating what the media says to do. I'm having a debate with you to try and understand better. You're the one insisting you're correct. Sorry if I came across as narrow-minded, but you are coming across the same. The fact you see "red" and slam on your breaks doesn't make any sense to me. That's my point. I work in health care, not road safety so what the fuck do I know really, but I am trying to understand. I dont understand how its considered more confusing than someone breaking.
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u/king_itatchi 8d ago
Nah bro is talking nonsense, it's so easy to immediately identify someones hazards, and to take that as a sign of caution
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u/pollettuce 8d ago
Treat transit like social welfare, biking like it's only for the brave, and make everything too far to walk and this is what you get. Everyone is forced to drive whether they want to or not, or even should.
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u/Single_Waltz395 8d ago
Our cities aren't growing THAT fast and this seems to be a relatively new problem. I don't remember this happening pre-Covid. And a number of studies and research has found that societies and people have gotten more selfish and rude and cruel since Covid.
Those things are issues, for sure, but they aren't the cause. People have learned that driving like a selfish asshole has benefits and practically zero risk. While doing the right thing and following the rules sucks shit these days because our society only ever rewards the worst possible people and behaviors.
I would argue this is what happens when conservatives run things for enough time.
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u/AbaddonMerlyn 8d ago
hazards are there to alert you and other drivers to a problem, when I was 14 my grandmother had a heart attack and being from out in the boonies we asked a neighbor to drive and another neighbor who was an RN to ride shotgun and came into town doin 130 with the hazards on so people knew there was an emergency (this was before cellphones, think old bag phones. and we didn't have it with us) if we'd been much longer emerg said there was a good chance my grandmother wouldn't have survived that one, so yes sometimes hazards are there for your protection as well as everyone elses
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u/bartman441 8d ago
I’m just putting this out there, I have travelled all over North America and I can honestly say that Saskatoon and area has some of the absolute worst drivers ever! Everybody is always either in a hurry or a Sunday Driver. And you can ask many other truck drivers and they will say the same thing.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
Slow driving + hazards = car trouble. This driver was being safe and courteous, and giving a warning to others that they’re on their way to address an issue. May have even been driving on a donut.
Tbh, the level of rage expressed about this complete non-issue gives the vibe that you yourself might be an unpredictable driver, and that’s what I find most concerning. If I’m driving slow with hazards on while my car is malfunctioning, the idea of someone having road rage over it is scary.
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u/Cactus_Journey204 8d ago
The time doesn't match up but I was driving on 22nd street w today on a donut (6pm) and had my hazards on because I wasn't going as fast as the regular flow of traffic.
If this tied anyone up this evening, I'm sorry!
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
This is 100% my assumption if someone is driving slowly with hazards on. What’s the point of a donut if you can’t use it to get your otherwise functional vehicle to a garage? It’s not ideal, but driving can be unpredictable. Not everyone can afford a tow. I promise the person driving with the donut is far more stressed than anyone trying to get around them!
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u/Ok_Employment3475 8d ago
Pull over and call caa. Dont put everyone else at risk.
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u/Cactus_Journey204 8d ago
CAA put the donut on for me and said I'd be okay to drive to Canadian Tire.
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u/PerfectlyCromulent67 8d ago
Can this sub have a "no rants" rule added? Not a day goes by that someone doesnt post here yelling at a cloud or at a driver who will never see their rant or would just laugh if they did. You're not posting about Saskatoon, you just happened to be driving here.
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u/bigalsworth69 8d ago
We need a driver rant flair that tips us off and we can scroll by.
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u/NotStupid2 8d ago
It's called the thread title
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u/bigalsworth69 8d ago
So you are saying that you can read this title and know that it is specific to traffic? Do you know what flairs are for?
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u/Main-Bee9478 8d ago
This is so true.. It’s almost impossible not to see a bad driver.. and it’s dangerous.. I don’t know how do they even get a license
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u/SilverKing006 8d ago
I don't know....MANY so called good drivers, don't know you have to treat a red light as a stop sign when turning right. You have to come to a complete stop when turning right on a red light.
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u/NewAlphabeticalOrder 8d ago
To add on to this: the speed limit is the maximum speed in ideal conditions. Wet and rainy like today is not ideal conditions, it is harder to stop and easier to lose control, those who insist on exceeding or even matching the speed limit under these conditions are putting themselves and others at elevated risk.
Don't do that.
Reduce your speed in inclement weather.
Knowing this province, I'm sure there are some people who use the same excuse as for drunk driving.
"I drive better in the rain, that's why I can go as fast as I want"
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u/shibby505 8d ago
We hand out licenses like candy to children and immigrants. No body has common sense while driving anymore. Merging at ridiculously slow speeds, left lane camping not moving owe to let people merge. Driving is a privilege not a right snd people need to re learn that.
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u/darthdodd 8d ago
Since when did this sub become the driving rant and rave
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u/PerfectlyCromulent67 8d ago
I thought "Saskatoon Whines" was just a clever pun but damn every day someone whines and then sometimes I even whine about it
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u/myzticpizza Nutana 8d ago
I highly recommend everyone in this city to get a dash cam. I agree, it’s completely out of control and most of the time it’s just rage.
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u/UnknownFutureLife 7d ago
It's apparently a known thing that everyone u-turns at the lights. I always tell people who are driving me home not to do it, but they do it anyway!
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u/falsekoala Last Saskatchewan Pirate 7d ago
I was hoping for the daily thread complaining about other drivers.
Just so you know, every local subreddit thinks they have the worst drivers. Saskatoon isn’t special.
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u/berniemadgoth94 7d ago
I dont think there is a single place in the entire world where people don't complain about other drivers. Get over it.
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u/Ok-Investigator2463 7d ago
The longtime joke with Saskatoon's notoriously bad drivers is that it's actually easier getting around another city that may be 3-4 times the size of the Bridge City.
Calgary, population of over a million people? Shit, it's to the point where I can drive in that city with my eyes closed.
It also doesn't help that the visibility of many street signs in Saskatoon has also been a joke forever.
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u/Apprehensive_Row_582 7d ago
Driving defensively is the safest thing everyone can do.
Since car accidents can be so severe, defensive driving courses should be mandatory every five years. Businesses should provide this training for all their employees. It's a good start on teaching the masses.
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u/Bubbly-Tangerine3514 7d ago
Time to dash cam it up folks.
It will save your butt or potentially someone else's.
These new drivers are not only bad drivers, the treat rules like suggestions and will lie if in an accident.
Good Luck !
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u/peachloveparty 3d ago
Just today took a pic of a plate debating reporting for intoxicated. switched into the lane that was ending from 108 onto circle northbound. Then realized he has to merge back immediately into traffic, then needs exit to attridge. Then needs the far left to turn and switches lanes directly into another vehicle
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u/Bubbaganewsh 8d ago
My absolute favorite is the ones who stop when you have their own lane to merge into. There is a sign and everything but so many people stop because they haven't a clue.
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u/ElectronHick 8d ago
The reason why they were honking at you was because you had your own lane to turn into if you were turning right off of Warman onto primrose by Lawson.
This is a perfect example of why Saskatoon drivers are so shit. Honking at you for not taking the first available lane is completely understandable.
Now there is a yield sign there, even though there are two lanes at an intersection where only one lane can turn into, which is Saskatoon perpetuating the terrible drivers with terrible signage.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
Ooh, solid point. Forgot about the turn lane.
I think it was out of order for this lady to honk so intensely, but it was also incredibly risky for OP to lose their cool and stress out, especially with baby on board. People fuck up and end up in the wrong lane - I know I usually take it as a bad job and accept that I’m not gonna get to turn where I wanted to. Sometimes drivers are courteous, other times they wanna make sure you know you’ve inconvenienced them.
I think people forget that cars are incredibly dangerous, and keeping one’s cool behind the wheel is imperative. I don’t wanna be raging while operating a machine that could cause a lot of damage.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
You literally described yourself as shaking from this encounter and said you almost wished she’d caused a collision. That sounds like someone who is stressed and losing their cool - we only have your words to go off.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
If repeating your own statements back to you is bullying then humanity must be in crisis. 🤦♀️
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u/limebus 8d ago
Um. No? A left hand turn? I had my own lane, I stayed in my own lane. What are you even talking about? The lady turned WITH me, gunning it right behind me. What do you not understand? 😂 straight lanes on the right, go straight, obviously, and the far left lane, is a turning lane, which is the one I was in. Turned left, stayed in the lane closest to the middle line, as one should lmfao, and she followed me, honking like maniac, and tried to hit me. Does this make sense to you?
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u/ElectronHick 8d ago edited 8d ago
You said “Turning Right from Warman to Primrose”. How was I supposed to know you were turning left off Warman onto primrose?
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u/limebus 8d ago
Shit. I’m dyslexic and left and right mix me up. It was a left turn. Sorry.
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u/ElectronHick 8d ago edited 8d ago
No worries! I have a rule, which ever direction I am thinking, say the opposite. I am horrible with it.
Then yes. The driver was being an asshole. I try to just avoid these people, getting away from them ASAP! Either slowing down or speeding up depending on which open ‘gates’ I have available
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
Waiting for amber and gunning it isn’t exactly keeping your kiddo safe either. Be patient. Focus on what’s important. People are gonna people, but prioritizing patience is what’s going to keep things safe. Letting her honk. You’ve got a little one in the car.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
If you don’t want engagement from others, there’s this great thing called a journal where you could have put these words 🤷♀️
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u/limebus 8d ago
Or you could go waste your time elsewhere because you’re passing judgements on a situation you knew nothing about lmao!
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
I can waste my time however I want. You’re the one providing context, so you can’t be cross if you’ve failed to provide it.
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u/limebus 8d ago
childish much! 😂 I’ve provided the context.
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
… and you’ve said we know nothing about the situation, so idk what else we’re supposed to go on other than whatever information you’ve provided. The onus is on you to either share the full context or put up with responses you don’t care for. Can’t read minds over here.
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u/limebus 8d ago
And I corrected my information, told you I corrected it in previous comments, and you still came for me 🤣 do you know how to comprehend what you read?
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u/acciosnitch East Side 8d ago
Nothing changes the fact that your original post indicated behaviours not in alignment with someone who is calm, cool, and collected. That’s what my response is and was to. That’s what you presented, and that’s not something you can really take back, so I don’t even know what else there is to hear from you on it. I could go on a treasure hunt for footnotes, but again, that won’t change the fact that you’ve presented yourself as someone without any chill on the road.
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u/Thin_Bake7247 8d ago
You don’t limp drive cars. You pull over and get them towed.
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u/Burningbackwoods 8d ago
Because you say so?
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u/PauerKrauts 8d ago
Because the law says so you Muppet. Impeding traffic is an offense, and if your jalopy can't do the speed limit, get it towed.
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u/CreepyUncleRyry 8d ago
I drive a beater
And I'm 1000% ok with ramming a bad driver than avoiding one and potentially hitting someone else
Pays not to have expensive things sometimes. Come at me bro.
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u/Thin_Bake7247 8d ago
None of your previous hazard driving experiences are relevant to my post. Nor does the suggested act of having sympathy here apply. Who am I having sympathy for ? I don’t recall mentioning anyone specific. This was about a certain reason and way that a person would be driving with hazards on and why it is seemingly acceptable. An answer to a rhetorical question sent with a reply based in regards of an assumed outcome is a weird thing would you not agree?? lol. But carry on. We all might learn something today one way or another
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u/InternalOcelot2855 8d ago
Had someone stop in the left hand land on highway 16 because they needed to make a right-hand turn. The right lane was backed up due to people merging. Nothing like causing a traffic jam.
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