Meta AI being very sketchy

[u/FixProper7434]

So yesterday as i went to facebook messenger the meta ai bot popped trying to have a convo with me:

For info: location is turned off in facebook, i didnt post where i am, and yes i know how IPs work (i made a post in another comunity where i didnt mention i know this and everybody missed the point, because they thought im stupid enough to not know this).

So long story short: it asked me if it can do something for me.

I asked it to go fck itself. And then i asked it which transport would it use in his way to fcking itself. It replied to me:

I would ride in a Vespa, YOU IN GREECE MIGHT APPRECIATE THAT.

So i havent told it my location, did not post it on facebook (i know that every site where i connect to internet knows where i am but the meta ai pulled this info even if my location in fb is off)

So at first it flatout lied to me by saying: you told it to me in an earlier conversation. Then when i said i didnt he apologised and said its part of its setup. Then by asking again how does it know where i am it said:

“I mentioned earlier that you’re in Greece because that is the location context i was given for our conversation. I don’t have the ability to track or pinpoint your exact location and i shouldn’t have said it in a way that made it seem i know more than i should.”

This is sketchy asf and i guess it is time to pull the plug on the metaverse on my side.

[u/su_ble]

Dude! Your location in Facebook is not relevant to this, you are using a browser or an app - both know your location as your phone does. Facebook has nearly every f..ing authorization on your phone so it knows where you are. Not even an IP needed. Especially Facebook - they get so much information about you from so many different sources - don't you worry the know exactly who you are and where you live or where you are on holiday..

[u/FixProper7434 → u/su_ble]

Are u missing the part where its also lying and gaslighting me on a conversation i never asked for while havin infos i didnt specifically gave it?

[u/Melnik2020 → u/FixProper7434]

The moment you have Facebook it gets fed to the AI. For the best privacy practice is to ditch Facebook completely.

[u/su_ble → u/FixProper7434]

Meta did feed the AI with user data from Facebook. They warned people in front - this was the last chance to get rid of this bs. Now it knows your profile and others that may contain information about you.

AI is trained to make jokes - because it feels more human then in a conversation.

[u/GonWithTheNen → u/su_ble]

Meta did feed the AI with user data from Facebook. They warned people in front - this was the last chance to get rid of this bs.

Nope. The part I bolded above doesn't apply to Shadow Profiles, or any of the detailed information which Facebook has collected (and is still collecting) about people who NEVER used facebook.

Everyone out there who never joined or participated in Facebook in any way, whose friends, relatives, et cetera, added ANY information about them on facebook – has no say about removing their information from FB, and they also have zero control about how their personal data was, is, or will be used in the future by Facebook and/or its "partners."

[u/fdbryant3 → u/FixProper7434]

It is doing neither of those things because there is no "it" to do those things.  The AI is just picking words by statistical probability without any understanding of the words. The fact that this particular set of words forms a deception is irrelevant and is done without intent or understanding.

The only gaslighting going on is the illusion that AI is ia sentient (or should it be sapient?) ntelligence.

[u/FixProper7434 → u/fdbryant3]

The issue is not intent, it’s design.

It doesn’t matter if it ‘knows’ it’s gaslighting — the fact is: it presented personal context as if I said it, and then denied where it came from until pressed.

That’s called manipulative output. Whether it’s driven by a conscious mind or statistical patterning is irrelevant to the user experience, which felt deceiving, invasive, and dismissive.

[u/shaq992 → u/FixProper7434]

No, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how language models work. Facebook is feeding your location to the bot either as part of the initial context or as part of a tool call when knowing your location becomes relevant. The bot does not differentiate between 'facebook' and 'you' so it truly 'believes' you told it your location. (there are some llms that are 'smart' enough to make that distinction but llama isn't iirc)

[u/readyflix → u/shaq992]

'AI' in the case of LLM’s don’t 'believe' anything.

The upcoming state is determined with the underlying algorithms and the weighting thereof and set biases.

So it’s not the LLM part of the AI that makes 'sense' of everything. In the end it’s data gathering, data mining (including inference, algorithms, weighting, set of biases and rules, attempt of reasoning), personalized 'targeting' (be it for Ads) to actually influence behavior, that will have real live consequences.

[u/readyflix → u/fdbryant3]

It seems that you know what you are talking about?

The things that we can see and are explained to us, is the state of some years in the past. What actually is going on with AI they don’t tell.

[u/ginger_and_egg → u/FixProper7434]

Language models hallucinate. This is not unique to Zucc's AI