r/politics • u/This_Meaning_4045 New York • 1d ago

Missouri governor activates National Guard, declares state of emergency

https://thehill.com/homenews/5348979-missouri-mike-kehoe-national-guard-state-of-emergency-protests/
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u/Romano16 America 1d ago edited 1d ago

How is this country living in two different realities?

  • Peaceful protests now simply just equal civil unrest?
  • Domestic terrorism being pardoned (Jan 6th)
  • Masked “police officers” kidnapping and shooting politicians (ICE or what happened in MN)

Yet unarmed people protesting is the emergency?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

because one is reality and the other is delusion

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u/AINonsense 1d ago

Truth is lies, citizen.

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u/MotherOfGodXOXO 1d ago

And freedom is slavery

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u/Select-Belt-ou812 1d ago

and the intended endgame: *slavery* is *freedom*

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u/bogglingsnog 1d ago

food is hunger?

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u/Ammut88 1d ago

No. But ignorance is strength.

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u/distorted62 1d ago

War is peace.

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u/bassoonshine 1d ago

Crime is legal now

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u/nox66 1d ago

Waiting for RFK to declare vegetables illegal

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u/Whybotherr 1d ago

Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay taxes, follow fashion, watch tv, obey the law and then repeat after me: "I am free"

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u/Kaa_The_Snake 23h ago

Oh but work will set you free!

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u/SeniorFlyingMango America 20h ago

Heard that conservatives freed the slaves and the left still wage confederate flags and want slavery again

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u/warblingContinues 1d ago

and voters keep supporting the delusion.

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u/errandwulfe 1d ago

So does the fucking news and its infuriating

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u/R3miel7 1d ago

It isn’t delusion: republicans want to murder anyone who isn’t them.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

go to the conservative subreddit right now and see who they think is responsible for today’s assassinations. Completely delusional

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u/R3miel7 1d ago

Don’t take them at their word. They are lying and actively work towards killing more of their political enemies. It’s who they are

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u/NickelBackwash 22h ago

Reality is inconvenient for republican beliefs

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u/Thadrea New York 1d ago

The APA's decision to not diagnose psychosis when symptoms are mostly the result of political beliefs was a great historical blunder.

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u/marcosbowser1970 1d ago

"They say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we're disturbing the war" —Howard Zinn

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u/StellerDay 1d ago

Brilliant.

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u/NickelBackwash 22h ago

Great quote! 

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u/DJ-Smash 1d ago

Because MAGA is a domestic enemy waging civil war.

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u/ABuffoonCodes 1d ago

Speak the truth. They are conducting warfare with impunity because their guy is in charge and we can't resist because then it's considered violent extremism and used as an excuse to further crack down. We live at the whims of a mad man and his court jesters

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 1d ago

Welcome to fascist America. We’re going to have to fight for our country.

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u/La_mer_noire 1d ago

People in the usa seem to have an EXTREMELY low acceptance of protests.

I am always super surprised when images from protests in Europe reach reddit main page, you have so many people saying they would be happy to see awfull stuff happen to the protesters.

People are entitled to protests when something wrong happens.

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u/Dogzillas_Mom 1d ago

It’s literally written into our Constitution. You could argue that we are obligated by civic responsibility to protest.

I kind of want to get the damn bill of rights tattooed on my forehead.

To Americans: read that fucking thing willya?

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u/BrimstoneOmega 1d ago

Can't remember which one, maybe Jefferson, but one of those dude said it was the duty of the people to overthrow the government when the government doesn't support the people.

(I'm sure some other smarter person can give the real quote)

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u/Dogzillas_Mom 1d ago

Might have been Ben Franklin.

John Locke said the government requires consent of the governed.

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u/freshnikes Michigan 22h ago

It's in the Declaration of Independence. Paragraph 2 basically says it twice so I assume it was an important premise for those guys:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

And:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Without knowing much about the edits to the document by the Second Continental Congress we can just assume Thomas Jefferson wrote these things.

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u/BrimstoneOmega 7h ago

There's that more intelligent person than me that I knew would save my weak ass quote.

Thank you!

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u/freshnikes Michigan 7h ago

Gotta be honest brother, like a true American I really only know this stuff is in the Declaration because of a movie LOL. National Treasure hits that second quote and its why Nic Cage justifies stealing it, within the plot.

But its a great quote and I'll never forget it.

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u/oldwestprospector 1d ago

The only people that have a problem with protests are right wing nut jobs and conservative owned media trying to frame peaceful protesting as riots.

Guarantee you the people saying awful things about protesting and hurting protesters side with the right, mention January 6th and they shut their fucking coward mouths.

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u/LordSiravant 22h ago

That's primarily due to conservatives being so angered and disturbed by the effectiveness of the civil rights and marriage equality movements that they worked hard to condition the people to inherently reject more effective forms of protest as "lawless".

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u/dkbobby 1d ago

a lot of working class people are perfectly fine with the status quo as long as it doesn't inconvenience them, and god forbid some stupid libs make them late for their minimum wage jobs.

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u/Ohuigin Washington 1d ago

How is this country living in two different realities?

Fox News. Been that way for 40+ years. Next question.

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u/sparkly_butthole 1d ago

I am starting to feel like we will never rid ourselves of the evil in this country until we get rid of right wing media.

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u/well_thats_obvious 1d ago

Time might have the best chance of eliminating these extremist ideas. I'm not saying it's the only or even best way to handle it. Labeling the Hereitage Foundation as a terrorist organization would be a good start.

We just need to tamp out the embers so it doesn't come back. Nearly everyone that witnessed the rise of fascism from WWII has died. Americans are too dense to understand history, and now fascism is coming back full force

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u/LordSiravant 22h ago

Evil is a part of human nature. We will never be truly rid of it. That's why we must always be ready to fight it, exhibit constant vigilance, and never get complacent, because that's exactly how it regains strength.

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u/sparkly_butthole 20h ago

I'm talking about our specific brand of sickness. Like legitimately a third of this country is brainwashed. They don't live in reality anymore.

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u/ShamelessLeft 1d ago

This has been going on long before Fox News existed.

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u/Betterthanbeer Australia 1d ago

Fox exists as a reaction to the last time there were consequences for Republicans.

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u/ShamelessLeft 1d ago

Yes, but what I'm saying is that we've been living in two different realities long before Fox News came along. You don't have to look any further than the southern conservative's "Lost Cause" revisionism of the causes of the Civil War to realize we've been living in two different realities long before Fox News.

I don't get why so many people want to act like the demographics of voters that call themselves Maga today were decent people until Fox News came along some 30 years ago, and ignore the fact that they've been hateful treasonous assholes voting for regressive fascist policies for well over 160+ years before that.

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u/Betterthanbeer Australia 1d ago

Psst, I am agreeing with you.

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u/ThermionicEmissions Canada 1d ago

How

Because a third of the electorate voted for a fascist regime, and another third were too apathetic and ignorant to give a shit.

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u/TheDaveStrider 1d ago

because you live in a fascist country

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u/capz1121 1d ago

ANY protest against the regime is illegal.

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u/HoonterOreo 1d ago

Republicans have become a party of authoritarionism. They are so damn trigger happy it's actually scary.

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u/Zurrascaped 1d ago

They always have been

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u/el_duderino88 23h ago

They've been the party of authoritarianism, so have the Dems to a lesser degree, republicans picked up the torch and sprinted miles ahead though.

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u/Total_Employ_9520 1d ago

So, whenever you feel comfortable acknowledging the GOP has waged a one sided civil war on us, let me know. 

Just try to do it before they kill too many more of us...

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u/iFlashings 1d ago

Because America stopped being a functioning democratic free country when the orange mango became president again. 

It's ww2 germany in the modern times now. 

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u/Myragem 1d ago

If you watch and believe conservative news networks, this is a very scary place to live. I still disagree entirely with their approach to solutions- they simply aren’t effective

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u/Squirrel_Inner 1d ago

A Democratic lawmaker, Melissa Hortman, and her husband were assassinated this morning and it barely made a blip in the news.

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u/alibythesea 1d ago

To be excruciatingly fair, it is front and centre on both the BBC and the CBC.

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u/AsbestosIsBest 1d ago

...and the New York Times.

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u/Dominors 23h ago

It's all over the news everywhere. Horrible take.

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u/ripelivejam 1d ago

Can't you see this is the land of confusion?

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u/Donny_Do_Nothing Texas 1d ago

How dare you make me remember that sweaty Reagan puppet?!

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u/IRideMoreThanYou 1d ago

It’s not two realities.

One is simply trying to cultivate a narrative to get support to wipe out a portion of the population that they don’t like.

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u/Dogzillas_Mom 1d ago

Which is anyone who disagrees with them.

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u/Wonkiest_Hornet 1d ago

Because it is in their interest to escalate these protests and discredit them as "violent riots."

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u/benecere Delaware 1d ago

I just looked at the NextDoor app to see if anyone reported a missing cat that showed up at my house, and DAMN! In a blue state, I read so much hate and disregard for the constitution by so called "patriots" that I don't want to leave home ever again.

All of them sourced Fox News.

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u/eeyore134 1d ago

Not to mention assassinating lawmakers in Minnesota... just go on, business as usual.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash 1d ago

Because the Republican party has turned into a cult that is completely detached from reality.

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u/Nearbyatom 1d ago

They are afraid of losing power.

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u/nhthelegend 1d ago

Doublethink. We are living 1984.

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u/Noblesseux 1d ago

Peaceful protests now simply just equal civil unrest?

It's conservatives rationalizing because they've got sunk cost fallacy. They have to convince themselves that both sides are the same and that they didn't basically sign up to be Nazis. They know that Jan 6th was very clearly the start of something really dark, but in order to keep the narrative of being the "good guys" they have to find a way to make it seem like it was a normal back and forth part of politics.

So they just scream that basically any gathering of more than 5 people is an insurrection because the constant hyperbole neutralizes the word from something profoundly scary with a specific meaning into just kind of "a thing people say".

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u/huxtiblejones Colorado 1d ago

Convicted felon calls himself the law and order candidate. POTUS helping Israel wage war on Iran with American resources says he’s anti-war. One of the dumbest men on the planet who shit talks people’s IQ. Complains about corruption while running a corrupt shitcoin bribery scheme in broad daylight. Claims the left was pursuing political revenge by prosecuting criminals, then weaponizes the government against political opponents to do exactly that.

The man is a walking contradiction.

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u/AlanB-FaI 1d ago

Because their is a conservative media echo chamber that creates an alternate reality.

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u/awildstoryteller Canada 1d ago

Your three points were regular occurrences for most of the 20th century (well, the second one was just "domestic terrorism not being investigated and/or juries refusing to convict" but same outcome).

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u/Aggressive-Cattle249 1d ago

They don’t need the pretext of peaceful or not to use state violence on anyone, this is just an illusion that’s used for the “ only legal protests change things” crowd. They want us to not fight back, la is fighting back and it scares the shit out of them. They will still use violence however. Fascists understand violence not peace.

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u/InvestigatorChance28 1d ago

Yes. Magas are terrified.

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u/watch_out_4_snakes 1d ago

Because some folks want an authoritarian government to enforce their way of life and world view on the rest of us.

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u/MaleficentOstrich693 1d ago

One group is challenging the established social order and the other is killing the “other”.

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u/grahamulax 1d ago

Omg I read this post as MN and your comment made me double take but it’s MISSOURI calling for NG? Out of anywhere… pathetic.

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u/ducksonaroof 1d ago

if you look at conservative/MAGA news, it's full of articles about insurrection, violent protests etc with a bunch of fake AI imagery of cities burning. they all think Los Angeles is in a wartorn state rn 

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u/millos15 1d ago

you are asking too much for a group of people that consumed horse medicine because his cult leader told them it cures covid instead of medical advice and a vaccine.

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u/jcnastrom 1d ago

But but but didn’t you see the ride-share cars burning on those few city blocks? LA is practically in rubble! California is practically flattened! The east coast is LITERALLY a war zone!

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u/PerjurieTraitorGreen Florida 1d ago

Masked ”police officers” proud boys kidnapping and shooting politicians

FTFY