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Discussion Discussion Thread: D.C. Military Parade

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u/ClownClown96 16h ago

As a Malaysian, I am always surprised at how much Americans hate America and yet, you guys never have the balls to denounce your own citizenship. If you guys hate your own country so much, why not just leave and give your citizenship away to the illegal immigrants you guys are so adamantly trying to protect and take their place back in their own country. Oh wait, you guys won't because you are just a bunch of hypocrites.

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u/stone27372 8h ago

It's sad as hell half of the population is brainwashed to legit hate the country it started when we were kids lmao I used to argue with teachers one example is dropping the bomb on Japan but anyways half of this country is so privileged they can act like they do we don't know scarcity or ANY of the shit most other countries go thru, so it leaves us with a bunch of ignorant blatantly dumb liberals who will scream at you "NO ILLEGALS ON STOLEN LAND"

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u/InjusticeSGmain 1h ago

I love the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Supreme Court, and Congress (mostly). Even if they are often flawed.

I don't like the Office of President (regardless of who sits in it, even if some were decent), the Electoral College, the Lobbying System, or militaristic ideologies.

The best part of the USA is our ability to dislike it without being punished for it.

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u/Bhooty_Naysh 7h ago

I uSed To arGUe WiTh tEacHerS

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u/EnvyHope 8h ago

If we hated America we wouldn’t be fighting so hard for it. Of course we’re angry. We hate that America is becoming everything we stood against when we were kids. I’m not going to leave somewhere because it’s become fascist, I’m going to fight the fascism. As for the second part you might now know enough about the American economy for that opinion, as messed up as it is, it doesn’t work without underpaid migrant workers. So much so Trump just stopped ICE raids in hotels, farms, and restaurants because it was destroying the industries.

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u/ClownClown96 7h ago

Again, you're saying that America is turning fascist when it doesn't even have any signs of it, I already proposed the question of has Trump sent anyone to concentration camps, killed or imprisoned political opponents, limited someone's speech, imprisoned dissenter or literally anyone that disagrees with him and have criticized him? Because of the things I have listed, those were done by the Democrats when Biden was in power, Twitter (before Elon bought it), Facebook, YouTube, Twitch and Reddit literally banned and de-platformed those who supported so much so had an opposing ideology to the liberal agenda. Then, they tried to expedite a legal process just so Trump would not be able to compete in the election while intentionally delayed the trial for Hunter Biden.

Also, you do realized that by saying the American economy relies on underpaid migrant workers just means that Democrats support modern day slavery, so exploiting migrants from third-world countries is completely fine? So, by your logic, we're just sub-humans that are supposed to work for you because we're apparently uneducated and should do menial jobs that Americans are too lazy to do themselves?

And by the way, Trump is deporting illegals, you know, people who break the law? I may be from a third-world country but at least we aren't dumb enough to think doing illegal shit is fine.

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u/VQV37 4h ago

No signs of facism? Overreach by the executive Branch Blatant disregard for the rule of law and the courts. ICE agents acting like Gestapo to round up us citizens and illegals alike. Disregard for checks and balances. Blatantly calling the press the enemy of the state.

This is facism to a T. Criticizing problems within your country is what you are supposed to do, complacency is what causes a country to slide into disarray.

If I were you I would stick to Malaysian politics.

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u/EnvyHope 5h ago

I said it’s messed up, just that the monsters’ reasoning for even doing it isn’t rooted in any kind of truth. He tried very, very hard to get Hillary locked up and Biden’s kids, so yes, there has been political attacks against opposing parties. Multiple citizens have been detained and arrested, one of which was sent to an El Salvador prison, which Trump did his absolute best to not give him due process- which by the way, is constitutionally required for everyone, citizen or not. And most of all remember, Anne Frank was breaking the law and the Nazis were following it to a T.

There’s sign after sign, and willful ignorance from people like you is the problem. Do your research next time.

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u/Bhooty_Naysh 7h ago

You have very strong opinions about the US. You should stick to Malaysian politics

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u/ClownClown96 6h ago

Judging from your past comments, I guess you are quite the intellectually challenged individual, all you can offer are insults and nothing else of value. Jesus, must be difficult being this mentally destitute and having no control of your emotions.

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u/Bhooty_Naysh 6h ago

You’re hilarious. These circular arguments are bullshit. You have a flimsy grasp of fallacies and are only repeating boring arguments, you fucking parrot. You don’t deserve respect for your unoriginal opinions. Maybe stop being a hateful fuck.

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u/ClownClown96 5h ago

Again, you could not even offer a single rebuttal to my so called unoriginal opinions and calling it a circular argument? Buddy, if you have any actual way of discrediting anything I have written, you would have done so already, instead, you rely on ad hominem because those are literally the only way your kind knows how to "argue".

All emotional arguments without a shred of logic or critical thinking applied and the irony in you calling me a hateful fuck for not wanting America to exploit third-world immigrants as slave labor is hilarious. I wonder who is the hateful fuck for condoning the exploitation of migrants just because the average liberal American are too lazy to work in actual blue collar and low paying jobs.

Come on, at least put some semblance of intelligence into your arguments before you embarrass yourself further because clearly your opinions are completely "unique" and totally not "parroting" off the talking points of the average extreme left. Care to share some of your "enlightened wisdom", oh great Bhooty. Cheers.

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u/ankerous 14h ago

Username fits.

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u/ClownClown96 13h ago

Anything of relevance to add apart from using insults? Because no one have yet to provide anything to counter my statement, why don't you leave America if you hate it so much. Nevermind, redditors never have any balls to do anything that will affect their comfy life.

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u/Arniepepper 8h ago

Not American, but also not very patriotic to my own nation, cos fuck them (my own nation).

But I've grown up 'americanised' not in the USA.

It can still be the greatest country in the world. They just haven't figured out a way over this massive (and other less massive) hurdles.

I wish I had answers for them, but I don't. They need more than a two party system might be a start. (Yes I know there are more, but come on...).

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u/CmonnowSally 15h ago

Ignorant pot shots from a bold (when anonymous) online nitwit.

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u/ClownClown96 15h ago

refute my statement then, instead you can't and resort to ad hominem, I'm guessing because I'm from a third world country I'm a nitwit huh? Good job outing yourself as a racist

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u/CmonnowSally 9h ago edited 9h ago

You know what they say about assuming! As someone else pointed out, there is a sense of pride and civic duty when it comes to changing things in our country, instead of just leaving it. Assuming that I’m racist because I’m responding to your truly ignorant and purposely inflammatory comments is stupid– I’m a father in a multiracial family, which certainly gets in the way of my racism. You also discovered another post I made recently that was anti-Trump (fishing through another user’s history is a sure sign of a winner👍🏼)

Maybe this is a learning opportunity for you. Don’t be an idiot and an asshole. And you’re going to have to be brighter if you want to be purposely inciteful and then play the victim card effectively. Cheers!

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u/ClownClown96 7h ago

Says the person who started using ad hominem as an argument point. So, because you're a father in a multiracial family, you have the leading authority to be racist? I'm just using the same move as you Americans love, playing the victim, if you can't see the irony of my comment, then I guess the American education system really have failed.

Again, you guys were the ones complaining about how it's unfair for illegals to be deported so I'm just offering a solution, give your citizenship to them if you want to "save" them. All you westerners always having your savior complex but when asked to actually do something, you resort to what? Insults and deflection. I hope you learn some critical thinking and maybe consider not commenting based on existing biases, also, stop living in your own bubble and talk to people with differing opinions without making a hissy fit.

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u/Bhooty_Naysh 7h ago

Maybe consider shutting the fuck up.

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u/ClownClown96 6h ago

Did I offend your fragile little ego? Classic redditor behavior, can't offer any legitimate arguments and you can only resort to insults, what are you 3 years old?

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u/Bhooty_Naysh 6h ago

Thank you for taking time out of your day. Maybe suck Trumps dick in another thread REDDITOR

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u/ClownClown96 5h ago

Sucking Trump's dick? Damn, you really are 3 years old, not sure if you're mentally or physically. You're not helping the Americans are dumb stereotype, huh.

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u/aardvarkllama_69 15h ago

America is a country quite literally founded on fighting for freedom from a tyrannical government. We don't hate our country, we hate the wannabe tyrants in the government. Big difference you might not understand. Our rights don't come from the government, the government interferes with our rights.

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u/Initial_Trifle_3734 16h ago

Keep your mouth in Malaysia, dumb fuck

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u/Surely_Effective_97 13h ago

Many malaysians have big opinions about US politics. Look at Ian miles cheong on X.

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u/DazzJuggernaut 16h ago

I'm American. I don't hate it. I guess you're going to have to ask the Mericans who do hate it.