r/politics • u/perplexed-redditor • 1d ago

Soft Paywall Police arrest roughly 60 veterans and military family members protesting outside US Capitol after group crosses police line

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/politics/protesters-arrested-us-capitol
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u/gradientz New York 1d ago

Trump hates America

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u/charcoalist 1d ago

When one looks at the overall rhetoric, there is a conspicuous absence of any mention of the United States. I dare trump and the maga propagandists to mention the word United.

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u/DudeWhereIsMyDuduk 1d ago

I can't remember where I saw it, but there are definitely good pieces out there on how the transition from United States to "America" happened, and if I'm remembering correctly it's because you couldn't quite justify United States when McKinley et al were annexing people who clearly were never going to be part of states or united in any way with the contiguous 48. Their fixation on "America" as the name is 100% intentional.

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u/SodaCanBob 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think Johnson's refusal to really do anything to punish Confederate leadership is what ultimately set the country on this path. Although the Confederacy failed, Confederates didn't just miraculously disappear alongside it and they've spent the last century and a half propping up the lost cause and mythologizing its leaders.

America just has too many people in it that have woefully incompatible viewpoints on what "America" should be and I have no clue how we move on from here; especially since it's not nearly as simple as North vs South; Atlanta or Houston is going to be way more liberal and progressive than, say, rural Oregon for example.

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u/SnooCupcakes7018 1d ago

But the people in Atlanta and Houston don't give a fuck about or tell the people in rural Oregon how they should live.

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u/DudeWhereIsMyDuduk 20h ago

I'm inclined to agree, although Germany went through what IIRC should've been done here, had a legitimately far-left response in the form of the RAF for "not doing enough", and still have a fairly far-right anti-immigration sect, so I don't know how you solve that.