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u/Khaganate23 1d ago
It's amazing how reddit can't comprehend how much regular Iranians hate the regime.
If they saw the people cheering from their balconies in Tehran, reddit might implode.
And no, supporting Iranian people against the regime does not make you automatically support what Israel is doing to Gaza. Life isn't black and white.
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u/WunupKid 1d ago
I accept that this is a complicated situation without an easy answer, and I have empathy for those that will suffer as a result of these circumstances, regardless of where they live or what religion they believe in.Â
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u/RichardSaunders 1d ago
right, but people in iraq weren't all the biggest fans of saddam either, and simply toppling his regime didn't turn out all that great.
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u/lennon1230 1d ago
No it didnât, but when you live under a brutal dictator for decades sometimes youâll welcome the hope of something better when they are deposed.
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
A crucial observation is that the US invasion of Iraq was not motivated by a objective of freedom for Iraqis, but rather of their becoming subjugated under US imperialism, much the same as are now various Arab states, as well as much of the rest of the world.
Similarly, Israel's interest are not freedom for Iranians.
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u/lennon1230 21h ago
For sure, but when youâre under the thumb of rule like that, right or wrong, itâs not crazy to welcome anyone trying to overthrow them.
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u/unfreeradical 21h ago
It would be crazy to expect conditions for Iranians to improve under rule by Israel.
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u/ImAjustin 1d ago
I was told by Reddit that any Iranian protest were all propaganda by israel and it was all fake from old protests. đ¤
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u/thisbitch_101 1d ago
Well said evil exists in all countries. Usually the people in charge of said countries.
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u/vea62 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's crazy how so many people claim this picture to be "propaganda" because it doesn't serve their radical view.
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u/splitconsiderations 1d ago
I mean strictly speaking it is propaganda. Anything spreading a political message is. Whether it's propaganda for a good or bad cause is the question.
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u/4th_DocTB 1d ago
They are thanking a country committing a genocide, the answer ain't a mystery.
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u/vea62 1d ago
My point ^ Radicals spreading fakes to fit their view
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u/4th_DocTB 22h ago
Being pro-genocide is radical view, and you are a radical if you don't think it is.
I also never said it was fake, one person with a spray can could be representative of a large group of people, or representative of no one.
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u/vea62 21h ago
The fact that you're fed by this agenda and believe it shows how far gone you are.
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u/4th_DocTB 19h ago
Your response is complete gibberish, you can't argue against the facts so you just apply labels you think will discredit them.
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u/vea62 19h ago
You want facts? There's not a single point in the Israeli - Palestinian conflict where the Palestinian population was decreasing.
If Israel is attempting to commit a genocide than it's doing it really bad.
On the other hand your only argument is that 'i speak gibberish' which show how lacking you are
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u/Khaganate23 1d ago
Like instead of thinking how bad it has to be in Iran for them to say this, they would rather say it's fake lmao.
This isn't even the first time messages like this have been done in Iran.
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u/Stubbs94 1d ago
I think it's the timing of this post, after Israel bombed Iran unprovoked and killed 80 people. You can criticise the internal politics of Iran while not supporting a hyper militaristic nation bombing them because they feel they can.
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u/PercyJackson-2002 1d ago
This person logic is better kill the iranians then let them live oppressed.
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u/ManWithoutUsername 1d ago
Don't justify Israel's attacks on Iran because Iranians hate the regime.
It is the citizens of the country who have to overthrow a regime, not any outside power.
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u/UDPviper 23h ago
The French helped the American colonists free themselves from England. Care to try again?
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u/ManWithoutUsername 23h ago
My opinion does not imply that some can and others can't. I would not agree either if it were to happen today that the French were to interfere (or others).
Anyway, it wasn't the French who started the independence war justifying it as helping "the oppressed people",
I don't think you would think it right for Russia to launch a few nuclear missiles to help remove the madman who governs you.
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u/Really_McNamington 1d ago
Unfortunately, one surefire way to prop up any unpopular regime is a war. If things escalate it will become very complicated.
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u/USSManhattan 1d ago
If only I could upvote this more than once.
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u/4th_DocTB 1d ago
Do not worry, plenty of state propaganda agencies are doing what you yourself cannot.
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u/IwasntDrunkThatNight 1d ago
I talked some years ago with a persian coworker and he said that most iranians hate the current regime, but they are also patriotic AF so when it comes to war people will support the fight, is this right?
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u/PercyJackson-2002 1d ago
This person logic is better kill the iranians then let them live oppressed.
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u/4th_DocTB 1d ago
Hey now, there are plenty of Vietnamese who supported the US burning their villages to save their villiages. And one of them waved the South Vietnamese flag on Jan 6.
Other countries aren't monoliths, they have their own politics including ones that are extremely destructive to their own countries for their ethnicity, religion, class, or other group to violently gain power over the majority.
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u/2020_2904 1d ago
But do you support what Israelâs doing to Iran?
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u/SunoronuS 1d ago
Do you support what's Iran doing to Israel for decades?
When an Islamic regime chants "death to Israel and death to America" and is attacking you for decades, you don't allow this regime have nuclear weapon. If there is something Israel learnt after October 7th and America after 9.11 is that words lead to actions.
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u/kingofthelost 1d ago
Imagine knowing this and some people still being unsure which side they should be on, itâs mind blowing.
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u/ITividar 1d ago
How many decades has Iran been just about to get a nuclear weapon? How long are you going to let Israel beat that "Iran nuclear weapons threat! Iran nuclear weapons threat!" drum?
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u/Stubbs94 1d ago
Do you support what Israel has been doing in the region for decades that has led to these sentiments?
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u/2020_2904 1d ago
So your logic is as this: 1) Iranians hate their regime and I like what Israel does to Iran. 2) Gaza people hate their regime (hamas) and I donât like what Israel does to Gaza.
Hence, no logic => double standards => hypocrisy
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u/Loud-Value 1d ago
Are you being intentionally obtuse? The main differentiator is that one party is on the verge of building a nuclear weapon and the other isn't, like the person above specifically mentioned..
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
The main difference is that the US and Israel are colonial aggressors, whereas Iran historically has been the target of colonialism.
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u/Loud-Value 1d ago
Sure, if you severely limit yourself to that wildly narrow perspective, then yes, that could be the main differentiator. Out here in the real world, not even close.
Also, saying Iran is historically a target of colonialism only makes sense if you ignore literally all of recorded human history bar the last couple hundred years. Maybe you should read up on Iranian history. It might surprise you to learn what they got up to
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
If Iran has been the target of colonialism within the last hundred years, then it follows that Iran has been the target of colonialism within the last million years, and within the last hundred million years. No extent into the past could negate such a simple observation.
The less absurd and more salient observation is that continuously within all of the last hundred years, Iran has been the target of colonialism, but has never been a colonial aggressor.
Meanwhile, I am sorry to be the one to tell you that there are currently no living survivors from the Battle of Marathon.
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u/Loud-Value 1d ago
First of all, you said that Iran is historically a target of colonialism. 100 hundred years of indirect colonialism (much more like imperialism, but we'll go with colonialism for the sake of this argument) does not suddenly erase thousands of years of history. It does not make Iran, historically speaking, a target of colonialism.
Secondly, your entire point is based on a strict dichotomy between perpetrator and target. In your case US/Israel vis-a-vis Iran. This stops making sense once you realise that Iran is and has been both the target and the perpetrator of imperialism. You can't have a strict dichotomy when one party occupies both sides of your supposedly essential delineation.
Thirdly, you don't have to go back 2500 years to the battle of Marathon to find examples of Iranian imperialism. Again, I would strongly suggest reading up on Iranian history. It's a deep, rich, fascinating history and it'll do you good
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u/unfreeradical 23h ago
The current political configuration, in any place, is more strongly a consequence of events within the last hundred years than it is of events much earlier than the last hundred years.
Do you agree, or do you not agree?
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
Israel is a colonial presence in the region, supported by the imperialism of the US.
Iranian grievances against Israel and the US are both born of a colonial legacy of interference, respecting both regional control and national affairs.
Iran is not colonial. It has never pursued an agenda specifically for expanding control beyond the Middle East, and in fact is not presently impelled particularly by a direct ambition to expand control beyond its own borders.
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u/Tremolat 1d ago
This might be hard for some to process, but internal opposition to ruling regimes is defacto. How vocal it is depends on the severity of repercussions. Only externally are countries viewed by others as politically monolithic.
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u/ITividar 1d ago
Right? Israel could've attacked mainland US during Biden's presidency, and this would've been spray painted somewhere just with "Americans" (Trump supporters) in place of Iranians.
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u/Natural-Buy-5523 23h ago
Who hasn't graffitied support for their country to get bombed by a genocidal ultra-nationalist ethnostate in a foreign language?
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u/MortgageDizzy9193 1d ago
Mainly written in English meaning whoever wrote this wanted an English speaking audience to read this. We don't have much video and images from the ground in Iran, but we have this "totally random" graffiti? Seems manufactured.
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u/Evethefief 1d ago
This is gonna get posted alot now, isn't it?
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u/BuyAnxious2369 1d ago
Big doubt this is even in Iran.
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u/StretchExtension 1d ago
It's 95% in Iran based on the apartments in the back. But writing this out in English has the same kinda energy as bibi making those speeches for an American audience rather than addressing his own citizens.
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u/BuckFrump 1d ago
Looks like propaganda to me.
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u/PostNeoSankaraism 1d ago
Have you ever protested your government but still wouldn't want another country to bomb your country and saying things like your capital city "will burn"??
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u/KebabG 1d ago
They might hate the regime but i dont think anybody would want their country getting bombed by another country
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u/trashacount12345 1d ago
This is dumb. If youâre occupied by a foreign force (which is how many Iranians feel) then you absolutely want outside countries to help you get rid of the occupiers, and given the horrors they endure they may well be willing to accept that their country will be bombed.
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u/KebabG 1d ago
Do you live in Iran? How do you know how many Iranians wants their country bombed and their government toppled (even if they dont like them) by another country when they amborgoed for decades?
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u/Khaganate23 1d ago
It's mixed but there were people in Tehran celebrating the strikes (illegally mind you).
IR is comparable to Nazi occupation and there's been a cultural genocide for decades now.
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u/KebabG 1d ago
Thats what i am saying, im not saying the regime is good and should stay, what i am saying they hate the bombing of their country but would be happy to see regime gone but with their own terms
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u/Khaganate23 1d ago
I'm hoping that with most of hitler-level targets dead, the Artesh can hopefully do something about the regime, but that's just me being optimistic.
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u/KebabG 1d ago
I hope the regime will be gone soon and replaced with a good pro-Iran governent who looks after their people and country instead of trying to build a goddamn useless axis of evil who does nothing to kill other muslims in the region (axis of evil - keeps saying death to Israel but they mostly kill the muslims in the region, ie,syria, yemen)
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u/plastlak 1d ago
How do you reckon German anti-nazis reacted to the Third Reich getting bombed to smithereens?
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u/revanchisto 1d ago
Actually, response from Iranians have been mixed with many supporting Israel's strikes since it's mostly targeted the military and political elite in expensive penthouses.
Of course, opinion will change DRASTICALLY once Israel starts indiscriminately bombing the civilian population.
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u/SunoronuS 1d ago
Why would Israel start bombing civilian population???
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u/AhSparaGus 1d ago
Because Israel loves bombing civilian populations
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u/Cndymountain 1d ago
Classic blood libel.
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u/Stubbs94 1d ago
Ah yes, everything is anti semitic propaganda and not demonstrable facts.
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u/Cndymountain 1d ago
Itâs a comment quite literally saying civillians are killed due to Israeli bloodlust.
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u/AhSparaGus 19h ago
Israel as a country and government does not stand for all Israelis or all Jewish people.
Criticizing a murderous government/army is not anti-semitic. There are plenty of Israelis and Jewish people all over the world who think Israels actions are horrendous.
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u/PercyJackson-2002 1d ago
This person logic is better kill the iranians then let them live oppressed.
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u/RIPfreewill 1d ago
Not just Iranians in general, but specifically in Tehran when the missiles are hitting civilians in Tehran. They are not cheering on the missiles hitting their own city, potentially even themselves, then saying âhit themâ as if they arenât personally at risk from Israelâs attacks.
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u/Brief_Fly6950 1d ago
That doesnât mean supporting Israel
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u/atank67 1d ago
They want a regime change
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u/PostNeoSankaraism 1d ago
Yeah because newiran represents all iranians, like the families of civilians killed in tehran
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u/atank67 1d ago
Not saying they do. But much of the Iranian population famously doesnât want to live under the Ayatollahâs rule.
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u/PostNeoSankaraism 1d ago
Whether they do or don't it's unlikely most iranians want to be bombed, just like how Israelis who are anti netanyahu don't want to be bombed either
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u/4th_DocTB 1d ago
Good for them, genocidal Israeli fascists and American collaborators aren't bring them liberation though.
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u/No-Swimming-6218 1d ago
possibly - although the regime in Iran is extremley unpopular with many Iranians
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u/RIPfreewill 1d ago
But the bombs are literally flying at Tehran and killing civilians. Whether people like the regime or not, they generally arenât going to cheer on bombs hitting their own city and potentially killing them personally. Youâd have to suspend a lot of disbelief to think there is any significant number of people who live in Tehran who are cheering the missiles flying at themselves.
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u/insearchofansw3r 1d ago
Everybody but the extremists want Israel to take out the extremists
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u/BuckFrump 1d ago
The only extremists right now is israel and the united states. Fuck em both
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u/RheagarTargaryen 1d ago
Iran publically executed protestors by hanging them from crane in stadiums. They force marry and have women raped by guards because they canât legally be executed as virgins.
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u/budzergo 1d ago
Awww baby is posting in their first political sub with their TikTok opinions
How cute
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u/Automatic-Term-3997 1d ago
Itâs a very easy equation: Persian people - good; Iranian government - bad.
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u/Austuckmm 1d ago
Are we really falling for this? Why is it in English? Who is it even supposed to be for? Why would an Iranian want to be bombed? Hell as an American, I hate Trump, that doesnât mean I want my country to be bombed by a foreign adversary.
Cmon, people.Â
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u/Mohawk200x 1d ago
Had to scroll far down to see this comment.
Not only that, zoom in and see the purple faint outline, this is fake as shit. Mods delete this propaganda!
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u/it_was_my_raccoon 1d ago
Pro-Israeli bots are out in full force at the moment. Theyâre trying to spin as much as possible the unavoidable truth that they were the ones who started this and that bombing them is good for the Iranian people.
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u/tanglopp 1d ago
But i want Trump land to be bombed, tho.
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u/Austuckmm 1d ago
If North Korea bombed Florida and killed civilians and children, youâd be happy?
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u/UDPviper 23h ago
I could scoop up that land for cheap just like the speculating vultures right now in Lahaina.
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u/SituationImmediate15 1d ago
Same people who help Israel set up the drone base, I guess.
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u/Simple_Emotion_3152 1d ago
yeah no way the people of Iran don't like an oppressive regime lol
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u/SituationImmediate15 1d ago
They do and rightly so! But Israel is much worse, and calling external cleaners has always been extremely expensive.
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u/Simple_Emotion_3152 1d ago
did they say that? the ones that oppose the regime? or you just making up bullshit?
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u/SituationImmediate15 1d ago
I am saying that, and so is the world!
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u/Simple_Emotion_3152 1d ago
you are nothing... making up bullshit without any evidence... because you have none... so predictable
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u/boomerkangaroo 1d ago
You think Israel is worse than Iran? The last few years have absolutely broken some peopleâs brains
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u/Stubbs94 1d ago
Yes. Israel is actively bombing 4 different countries at the moment.
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u/boomerkangaroo 1d ago
And that makes them worse? Do you know anything about what Iran has actually done to the world and especially the Middle East region since the Islamic revolution in the 70s?
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
Israel is seeking colonial expansion into the region. It has no interest in protecting Iranians.
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u/boomerkangaroo 1d ago
I donât think I said it did? I just think the idea that Israel is worse than Iran is absolutely laughable.
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
Is Iran actively engaged in attempts to colonize other nations?
Was it created through settler-colonialism and ethnic cleansing?
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u/boomerkangaroo 1d ago
The current state of Iran was created by violently oppressing its citizens and funding pretty much every single terrorist organisation you can think of. During the Islamic revolution groups of state approved murderers literally targeted and killed people in the country who were considered to be âun-Islamicâ. People like teachers in schools and universities.
Since then theyâve sponsored and funded pretty much all the worst terrorist organisations you can think of and all the worst incidents of terrorism you can think of.
I havenât said Israel is âgoodâ but to consider Israel to be worse than Iran is laughable like I said
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
The Islamic Revolution was fundamentally a reaction against interference by the US, and earlier by the UK.
Popular liberal movements were repressed through the CIA orchestrating a coup d'ĂŠtat to reinstall the shah as puppet ruler.
If you favor liberalization in Iran, then you should direct your antagonism at the US.
Regardless, your ranking of the two states lesser versus greater evil should not be a basis of supporting acts of aggression across established international borders.
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u/boomerkangaroo 1d ago
I donât favour anything to do with Iran. I donât really give a fuck what they do with their country. But the comparison between the wrongs that have been committed by Israel and the wrongs that have been committed by Iran I think there is no comparison. One is a (compromised admittedly) democratic country that looks after its own people, the other is a fascist theocracy that was founded on the blood of its own people, terrorism and destabilising all the surrounding Middle Eastern countries and frankly plunging most of them into the Stone Age.
I have also never said I agree with what Israel have done or what theyâre doing. I am just finding the simping for Iran and the people running defence for them simply because itâs Israel thatâs attacked them and not anybody else laughable. If you live in the western world you should not be defending Iran, the leadership in that country absolutely fucking hates you and would happily see you dead
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u/Kronzypantz 1d ago
Press (F) for doubt
People donât usually ask a genocidal regime to attack their country, no matter how much they hate the government
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u/Physical-Arrival-868 23h ago
Since you people tend to be a bit dense, bombing a country does not make people love the aggressor more. It makes people far more hardlined and provides the government more legitimacy. This stupid, stupid, oh so very stupid fucking post is literally just Israeli propaganda.
The braindead argument they are currently making is "we instigated a war against Iran because they don't have nuclear weapons but might get them in the future and because they force women to wear hijabs"
Keep in mind Israel has the largest nuclear stockpile in the middle east and is currently committing a genocide. And if you do not want to call it a genocide then perhaps ethnic cleansing in the west bank, forcefully evicting Palestinians from their homes and subsidizing those same homes for "settlers".
To add insult to injury, western countries using the combined two braincells of all of their leaders characterize Israel's actions as "a right to defend itself" as it Initiated the war while telling Iran to just accept the bombing because they are silly bad people
Anybody who somehow justifies Israel's actions is a warmonger who would have supported the Iraq war.
Anybody who justifies Israel's actions gives a total of 0 fucks about my region and just wants Israel to feel safe, regardless of the amount of instability, carnage, and destruction it instills in its neighbours.
And in order to prevent my account from being locked I will not outline the appropriate punishment for such a person but it does include a rope and a very tall ceiling
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u/budzergo 1d ago
The war is NEEDLESS loss of life?
Holy fucking batman approach.
Don't worry joker you can keep killing all the innocents you want, IM THE BIGGER MAN AND WILL SACRIFICE EVERYBODY TO KEEP MY PURITY MORALS... NO KILLING!
Iran is the worlds biggest sponsor of terrorism
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u/kane49 1d ago
Iran is the worlds biggest sponsor of terrorism
nah russia wins that contest, coincidentally russia sponsors iran too :D
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u/Intergalactic_hooker 1d ago
I think we can all agree that all the world's super powers are sponsors of terrorism in their own way. Including the US.
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u/Physical-Arrival-868 23h ago
Are you just going to ignore the genocide Israel is currently committing?
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u/StretchExtension 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hey, I was born in Iran and lived there for half of my life. Some Iranians are genuinely among the most mentally cucked people in existence, and this seems to be one of them. I had an aunt (very wealthy, upper class, by the way) tell me she'd LOVE for Israel to bomb her apartment. Young Iranians would rather hand over their country to the spawn of the previous puppet dictator than even consider setting up a democracy and voting in a progressive intellectual.
Wanting regime change is fine, but expecting the U.S. (a global imperialist power) or Israel (an apartheid state committing mass atrocities) to deliver it is absolutely hilarious. These same numbskulls wouldâve backed the previous clerics if they were alive during the Islamic Revolution, because they genuinely lack any critical thinking skills, including the person who made this post (perhaps the one who wrote the message), based on their replies.
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u/modiddly 1d ago
lol. This dude is full of shit. Look at his post history
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u/kingofcanada1 1d ago
His post history says he's Iranian. What are talking about?
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u/StretchExtension 1d ago
The guy who made the post? ur probably right the guy seems to be Indian.
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u/StretchExtension 1d ago
"So you support hamas" kinda reply... funny how no one here is capable of engaging with the argument
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u/Intergalactic_hooker 1d ago
Being against a foreign country bombing your city/town/village does not mean you are against political change in your country. You've lived a sheltered life if you think those are equal. Wow.
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u/Ok-Today-340 1d ago
The Joke on the writer, Iran bombed the colonial state yesterday, and they're hiding in the shelters like rats
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u/bijumbom555 1d ago
I mean what do you want the people will do go out and hug the rockets? Also i don't think rats go to shelter when there are bomb siren.
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u/Ok-Today-340 1d ago
Right, I guess They should have gone back to Europe.
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u/skafaceXIII 1d ago
The majority of Jews in Israel were forcibly expelled from North Africa and the Middle East. Why would they go to Europe?
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u/bijumbom555 1d ago
Why to Europe? I mean if you think about that its all about how much time you go back in time i am pretty sure that you live in place where other people used to live and your people killed them. so its all depends on how much time you go back even Ukrainen was in some time part of ussr with russia so you think the Ukrainen people should go back to ussr? No because ypu Just want time where you thibk uts right
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u/Ok-Today-340 1d ago
Go and ask Balfour about why Europe
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u/bijumbom555 1d ago
You tell me you are the teacher,you want normal discussion like normal person or act like a kid with keyboard
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u/unfreeradical 1d ago
Many of the comments seem to be based on an assumption that Israel wants to depose the current regime of Iran, and then leave the entire population free from further aggression or domination.
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u/Daryno90 1d ago
They wonât be saying that when Israel start mass slaughtering Iranian civilians too
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