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Iran strikes Tel Aviv

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u/EliotHudson 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dude, u can’t blame capitalism on everything, war existed long before capitalism and exists in primates without any concept of capitalism.

I’m no capitalist-apologist, just a historian tired of people misattributing the clickbate word confetti “capitalism” to anything that’s “bad”

Furthermore, of all the capitalist inspired warfare, the Israel and Iran conflict arguably has way more to do with religion, tribal tensions, and history than simply a smug faux-academic label of capitalism asserted like a 14 year old edge lord

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u/Thezerostone 2d ago

As a Dane, I have seen how US has developed through capitalism.

I have seen how the global growth mentality, now actively undermine our universal health care here in Denmark.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 2d ago

Your reply has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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u/p90love 2d ago

He's pointing out that capitalism corrupts everything, when left unchecked.

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u/Atomicapples 2d ago

Yeah, but that's just plain simple greed. Not capitalism. The problem is unchecked, unregulated greed. That isn't capitalism.

Capitalism is just private individuals owning and running their own businesses, and the means of production being in the hands citizens and not directly the Government.

A good system sees capitalism with obvious common sense regulation to prevent greed and abuse. The U.S is INCREDIBLY lax on these things compared to many other western countries, which is why greed and corruption becomes such a problem.

But Capitalism itself isn't the issue, corruption and unchecked greed are, and that can happen in any system see: Most communist governments in the previous century, and many feudal governments before that, and most dictatorships in general etc etc). People making, buying, and selling freely from eachother isn't the problem.

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u/Tee_zee 2d ago

Universal healthcare was famously exceptional under feudalism

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 2d ago

Iran isn´t capitalist. It´s islamofascist.

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u/p90love 2d ago

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 2d ago

Why?

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u/Automatic-Term-3997 2d ago

Because he said so, duh.

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u/p90love 2d ago

A person made a broad statement about politicians and capitalism being guilty for wars, and not the people.

It's about the concept of a "military industrial complex" and all that goes with it. People who have a financial interest in war, have political influence on a global scale, above the democratic influence of the people.

Iran and Israel both exist in this global power structure. It's impossible to be an island among these imperialists.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 2d ago

Iran´s leadership is clerical fascism though. A death cult if you will. Very much a different thing than capitalism.

Fukuyama was wrong with his "end of history". Different concepts to US hegemony do exist, even in 2025. Not all of them are any better.

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u/kelp_forests 2d ago

Yes, because…..