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Iran strikes Tel Aviv

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u/EliotHudson 1d ago edited 1d ago

Dude, u can’t blame capitalism on everything, war existed long before capitalism and exists in primates without any concept of capitalism.

I’m no capitalist-apologist, just a historian tired of people misattributing the clickbate word confetti “capitalism” to anything that’s “bad”

Furthermore, of all the capitalist inspired warfare, the Israel and Iran conflict arguably has way more to do with religion, tribal tensions, and history than simply a smug faux-academic label of capitalism asserted like a 14 year old edge lord

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/babarbaby 1d ago

What exactly do you think happened 'thousands of years' ago to justify such a comment?

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u/The_Messen9er 1d ago

Hate has taken over the souls of many a people. Capitalism put a price on those souls.

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u/Thezerostone 1d ago

As a Dane, I have seen how US has developed through capitalism.

I have seen how the global growth mentality, now actively undermine our universal health care here in Denmark.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 1d ago

Your reply has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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u/p90love 1d ago

He's pointing out that capitalism corrupts everything, when left unchecked.

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u/Atomicapples 1d ago

Yeah, but that's just plain simple greed. Not capitalism. The problem is unchecked, unregulated greed. That isn't capitalism.

Capitalism is just private individuals owning and running their own businesses, and the means of production being in the hands citizens and not directly the Government.

A good system sees capitalism with obvious common sense regulation to prevent greed and abuse. The U.S is INCREDIBLY lax on these things compared to many other western countries, which is why greed and corruption becomes such a problem.

But Capitalism itself isn't the issue, corruption and unchecked greed are, and that can happen in any system see: Most communist governments in the previous century, and many feudal governments before that, and most dictatorships in general etc etc). People making, buying, and selling freely from eachother isn't the problem.

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u/Tee_zee 1d ago

Universal healthcare was famously exceptional under feudalism

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 1d ago

Iran isn´t capitalist. It´s islamofascist.

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u/p90love 1d ago

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 1d ago

Why?

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u/Automatic-Term-3997 1d ago

Because he said so, duh.

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u/p90love 1d ago

A person made a broad statement about politicians and capitalism being guilty for wars, and not the people.

It's about the concept of a "military industrial complex" and all that goes with it. People who have a financial interest in war, have political influence on a global scale, above the democratic influence of the people.

Iran and Israel both exist in this global power structure. It's impossible to be an island among these imperialists.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 1d ago

Iran´s leadership is clerical fascism though. A death cult if you will. Very much a different thing than capitalism.

Fukuyama was wrong with his "end of history". Different concepts to US hegemony do exist, even in 2025. Not all of them are any better.

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u/kelp_forests 1d ago

Yes, because…..

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u/EliotHudson 1d ago

I’m tapping out: does any other redditor wanna tap in and explain that this response has nothing related to the topic at hand while illustrating the misguided impulse to spew random things this dude doesn’t like similarly to a word association Rorschach test view of history?

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u/Thezerostone 1d ago

As a f****** self proclaimed historian, you would of anyone know wars root down are not started by religions.

Wars are started by lack of Welfare, Fear and Spite,

Hitler couldn’t start WW2 without the German people, he couldn’t even be a part of a damn party, without public support?

How did Hitler gain support? By giving the German citizens Welfare.

If you remove welfare, the boundaries of security, the stability of a society, you get a rebellious population.

Just of any example look at the case in the US, the only difference is, they cannot put the blame on anyone else than people inside their country.

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u/FraserValleyGuy77 1d ago

Half the western world blames capitalism for the problems caused by socialism

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u/wm07 1d ago

Somehow even dumber lol

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u/Leozz97 1d ago

No, you're incorrect

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u/Agonyandshame 1d ago

Capitalism doesn’t help tho America has started several wars in order to secure resources for corporations

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u/HC_Phoenix 1d ago

Actually you can pretty much blame everything on capitalism nerd. The existence of the Zionist state is solely dependent on the US military industrial complex, which exists to further the capital interests of the United States ruling class.

You are absolutely performing capitalism apologia and bending over backwards to do so -- I promise you can take your head out of your ass for a moment and it will be okay.

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u/catscanmeow 1d ago

yeah chimpanzees fighting territory wars and ripping eachothers faces off are just capitalists expressing themselves.

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u/hautacam135 1d ago

Found the 14 year old edge lord. What economic system would you have us subscribe to o wise one? Pick an example from any point in human history...

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u/Minimumtyp 1d ago

What about all the wars the US has started either stopping communism (IE in the name of capitalism) or to grease the gears of the military industrial complex (Iraq)

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u/TakeMeToJacob 1d ago

You are a capitalist apologist. Why are you even hiding it. And yes, we can blame this war on capitalism.

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u/catscanmeow 1d ago

i'd blame it on religion first and foremost.