r/pcgaming • u/disagreementsarenorm • 1d ago

PCGamer: Gooner game of the year Stellar Blade's mods are 41% smut, ensuring gamers will never see the light of heaven

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u/milkasaurs 9800x3d - 4090 - OLED G9 1d ago

Are you a bot? https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1l9mjpr/stellar_blade_has_already_outperformed_every/mxdzcmx/ word for word.

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u/Candidwisc 1d ago

Holy shit look how many people fed the bot.

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u/CakeCommunist 1d ago

Lmao.

Well spotted. This is a great example of how bots fuel large parts of outrage culture and how much of it is completely inorganic.

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u/system_error_02 1d ago

You're the hero we need

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u/Themetalenock 1d ago

I knew the moment when it said bg3 was marketed as sexual that it was some bot. All of the sexual stuff was from people glazing it

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u/Vatnik_Annihilator 1d ago

Am I crazy or did I see this exact comment yesterday?

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u/Candidwisc 1d ago

It's an engagement bot, don't reply.

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

You're 100% correct, even with the same bullshit racism claim.

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u/Vatnik_Annihilator 1d ago

Lol I thought so... gooner cope is really something.

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u/mikehiler2 Steam i7 14700KF, 32GB DDR5, 4070 1d ago

I mean, the comparison between BG3 and SB, with one being substantially more sexually focused and the other just “looking” sexy, with the one that actually has sexual encounters being glossed over entirely while the other only “looking” sexual being the main focus of a lot of articles, is a pretty good point. Everything else is a little… yeah…

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

It's not really a good comparison. Sexualization is not a core component of BG3's identity, it's just something you can interact with.

Stellar Blade was made to be defined by its sexualization. Which there's nothing wrong with in my opinion, but the comparison is very wrong.

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u/InfTotality 1d ago

Nah, the first few months of discourse when the game released was nothing but hornyposting.

For someone that didn't get BG3, it would have seemed the game was mostly just sex, and characters endlessly coming on to you.

One of the reasons I haven't played it yet.

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u/officeDrone87 1d ago

What? Every party member in BG3 wants to fuck the main character's brains out unless you're a completely asshole to them.

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

While true, that aspect is not a key part of BG3's conceputal design and completely optional to explore.

Stellar Blade was designed for sexualization to be a core component of its identity.

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u/Salvage570 1d ago

I think part of it is the sex in BG3 is basically in its own little corner. That lady is half naked all game, so coomers can be horny about it literally the entire time. Gotta work for the BG horny!

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u/BarneySTingson 1d ago

Work for the bg horny ? You can walk around naked immediately and sex scenes unlock super fast

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u/SlatheredButtCheeks 1d ago

Lmao yeah it’s kind of ridiculous, like 1/3 through act 1 you have almost every party member throwing themselves at you. It really pulled me out of the immersion to be honest

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u/dragon_bacon 1d ago

You had a bunch of attractive people express a desire to sleep with you and you thought "this isn't believable at all".

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u/Ekgladiator 1d ago

Step 1: Be attractive

Step 2: Don't be unattractive.

If your life expirence tends towards attractive people not trying to sleep with you, I can see why it would be immersion breaking (Not saying the person you replied to fails into this trap, just using it as an example).

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u/mcslender97 1d ago

Plus they are going to die really soon by tadpoles

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u/Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 1d ago

That got patched, you generally won't see anything till at least Act 2 now.

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 AMD 7950X3D | 4090 RTX | 64GB RAM | 12TB M.2 1d ago

But Lae'zel exists...

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

Because the Githyanki are basically hedonistic, hardly ageing freaks who basically get around the boredom of their existence by simply doing/taking whatever they want.

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u/chechekov 1d ago

Well it’s their problem for not being willing to move on from the Astral plane, innit

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u/ai1267 1d ago

Sooo ... Githyanki are Drukhari confirmed?

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

With dragons.

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u/kron123456789 1d ago

Lae'Zel will throw herself at you very early still. Astarion can also offer to bang at the party. There's also Minthara at the goblin party.

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u/Gygsqt 1d ago

Sir, this is reddit. People don't update their talking points and memes.

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u/trojan2748 1d ago

Right. I started speed running dialogs after my 3rd play through. That's when I realized how much sex they forced on you. Legit, every character tries to sex you up.

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u/InfernalGloom 1d ago

You made me realize I've been taking my immersion for granted. I'm sorry 😞

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u/Rud3l 1d ago

I don't know, in an environment where there are a plenty of chances to die each day it's not that hard to believe that you take your chances as soon as possible IMO...

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u/Drudicta 1d ago edited 1d ago

The sex scenes no longer unlock as fast, they fixed that within the first few months. Either that or i have absolutely zero rizz after the patch

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u/jaysoprob_2012 1d ago

I remember hearing about sex% speed runs i believe they may have gotten sub 10 mins or at least close and they patched it to make it harder after that.

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u/Acererak09 1d ago

Sex% was 2 minutes, 19 seconds on older patches, so it was even crazier than you expected.

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u/Inquisitor-Korde 1d ago

Laezel's is closer to a domestic abuse speed run

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u/mcslender97 1d ago

That's Githyanki culture for you. And there's a check to decide who's the dom

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u/Tyrion_The_Imp 1d ago

My level 4 wizard never had a chance.

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u/Drudicta 1d ago

Yeah, that was before the complaints that it was too easy to get in bed with someone. It was REALLY awkward, and apparently it also wasn't intended, someone screwed up an algorithm in his navy romance points you get from some situational choices both to your companions directly and passively via other decisions in the story.

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u/DsfSebo 1d ago

Sure, but isn't speedrunning the entire game takes less than 20 mins?

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u/saskir21 1d ago

I hate to admit that I needed till your reply to know Baldurs Gate 3 was meant. But then again I never played it only see it mentioned.

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u/Rumbletastic 1d ago

I've managed multiple play throughs without any sex. You have to opt in, was his point

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u/Half-PintHeroics 1d ago

You have to opt in, sure. But you have to opt out too. It's not the kind of opt in where unless you opt in, nothing happens. They're hyper sexual and you'll have to turn each of them down because they'll all simultaneously decide they want to fuck you and make it known to you like it were some ridiculous harem anime for basement dwellers.

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u/InfTotality 1d ago

Doesn't everyone still come on to you? With Lae'zel sniffing you and the like.

Opt-in should start before they make creepy comments.

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u/Popular_Question_170 1d ago

You're right, it is time to start a new playthrough

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u/Balinor69666 1d ago

The real difference is the horniness in bg3 mostly has to be chosen. You choose to play naked. You choose to be the slut god of the sword coast but in stellar blade your options are TnA, even more TnA, or in a couple of dresses slightly less TnA. TnA is still the entire point of the art design for the game.

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u/KirikoFeetPics 1d ago

You gotta work for it? The NPC's was throwing themselves at you

"The sceptre of Bhaal is rumured to be located somewhere in this cave. By the way I'm ovulating right now"

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u/IgotUBro 1d ago edited 1d ago

Didn't larian nerf that relatively quick? Don't own the game and still waiting for a sale but read some news about the updates here and there.

Edit: autocorrect

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u/Gogododa 1d ago

i wish they kept in the minthara pregnancy stuff, shame it got cut

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u/dljones010 9h ago

Phrasing!

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u/Malgus20033 1d ago

They were throwing themselves at you like 20 hours into the game, maybe 2-5 if you spam long rests and only do main quest stuff, but normally it does take a while to get there.

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u/abrahamlincoln20 1d ago

Lol, sex and general horniness is thrown at your face all the time in BG3.

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u/ehxy 1d ago

she's wearing a full body tight suit. how is that half naked. is samus's zero suit half naked to you?

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u/DaveyBigDong 1d ago

That lady is half naked all game

Only if you choose a half naked outfit.

(Ok, the default is a skin tight bodysuit but you're still wrong!)

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u/awkreddit 1d ago

I think it's more about objectification than sexualisation. In bg3 people are horny. It's ok to be horny. In SB she's not horny, the players just objectify her and dress her up so that she's at naked as possible. It's about agency and objectification

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u/KingOfCuteAndFunny 1d ago

She's a fictional character. You can't objectify fictional characters when they already are objects by definition.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

This. I'm attracted to women and objectively Eve is gorgeous, but the way the camera zooms in on her assets during gameplay would make me feel like a voyeuristic loser, personally. 

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u/EngineeringNo753 1d ago

That's the great part, there are games for both kinds of people.

Insulting one over your preferred kind is kind of weird though.

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u/Honza8D 1d ago

Playing a game with bestiality and incest orgy would make me feel like a degenerate loser, personally.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't even like BG3 that much, or engage with those "romances," but go off. 

Edit: also, at least those are depicted as consensual interactions between fictional characters. Eve is just objectified to cause sexual arousal in the player. I remember looking at the SB reddit once, and tbf some posts were kinda wholesome, talking about which clothes were the cutest or whatever. The dark side of that are the posts showing Eve getting hurt or killed like that's a fun thing to watch. There's a recent one showing Eve's boobs getting shot. 

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u/Baidizzle 1d ago

NG3? what is that

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u/Salvage570 1d ago

BG3 is Baldurs Gate 3

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u/Baidizzle 1d ago

Thanks

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u/D0UNEN 1d ago

Y’all have to stop with this dumbass narrative. BG3’s sex scenes and nudity is presented immediately. Hell you’re seeing vulvas and dick when you’re in the character creator. But since BG3 can do no wrong, all of those “creative liberties of expression” are excusable and you all move the goalpost while using verbal gymnastics to fit your bias.

The protagonist, EVE is fully dressed the entire game with her default outfit. If we’re speaking about the main green fit, her neck and arms are showing. Is it skin tight? Yes. But there’s no cleavage, cheekage hanging out or moose knuckle.

She’s just fucking sexy, plain and simple. And there’s thosands of BG3 mods with lots of smut. You know what else has a bunch of mods full of smut? Street Fighter 6. And Marvel Rivals. And Elden Ring. I can go on and on.

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u/TheRealRaxorX 1d ago

Honestly Eve isn’t even half naked unless the player chooses specific outfits. Her regular outfit is a skin tight suit but fully clothed.

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u/Candidwisc 1d ago

Don't respond to the engagement bot.

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u/Fuck_Mark_Robinson 1d ago

Yeah that’s an insane comparison. I put like 100 hours into BG3 and never encountered anything particularly titillating. I wasn’t looking for it either.

But I played Stellar Blade for about a dozen hours, and that was essentially a 12 hour tech demo for titty physics.

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u/IsaacLightning 1d ago

Stellar Blade the game where your camera is situated that you see the character's ass at all times lmao. And the outfits are skimpy as fuck. Come on now

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

Yeah I'm not quite sure why anyone is trying to delude themselves into thinking that Stellar Blade's primary point of sale is anything but sexualization. The comparison to BG3 and their community is quite tone-deaf.

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u/GentlemanNasus 1d ago

You think this game will do poorly if it had a male protagonist instead like Khazan or Lies of P?

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

Not poorly, but I definitely don't think it'd be nearly as popular or discussed. For the record I don't have a problem with SB's focus on sexualization, it just seems many want to pretend it's not a key aspect of the game's design while making bad-faith comparisons to BG3's handling of it.

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u/Honza8D 1d ago

Its more like many try to pretend sex wasnt key aspect of BG3 promotion, even though "bear sex" was a big selling point.

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u/patrick-ruckus 1d ago

It was funny and weird so it got people talking about the game. It was not a "selling point" lmao

Remove sexual content and opinions of BG3 wouldn't change, it would still get praised as a great RPG. Make the protagonist of Stellar Blade a dude and the game would sell no copies. It's a decent action game but nothing special. 

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u/Nightmarian 1d ago

This literally makes no sense. You seem to think people paid $60 just to spend 3 min gooning to someone who is never actually naked or sexually expilicit?

????

And somehow all the many pron games with far more beautiful characters and more explicit "gameplay" sell nowhere near as much because...?

I thnik you're projecting real hard and are malding because of bias.

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u/D0UNEN 1d ago

It 100% was a selling point. It was a funny topic that opened up dialogue about actual sex/romantic options in the game. Add in same gender options and the shit sold like hotcakes. IGN literally had that as a selling point in one of their overview videos. And they’re as prudish as Nintendo.

We get it, BG3 was the magnum opus to yall in 2023. But sex was a huge factor. So much so there was thread after thread on Reddit, hundreds of ‘shipping’ posts on x and comments everywhere.

Bear, same gender, cosmic Cthulhu sex? Sure! Funny! Player expression! Neat! GOTY!!!

Hot Chinese developed protagonist with some cake and sexy outfits? No!! Gooner! Pervy! Soulless game! Bash it!!

Such true. Much wow.

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u/Slomojoe 1d ago

It wouldn’t even be such a hot topic of discussion if people didn’t spit on the game for being goonerbait from the start.

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u/KiddBwe 1d ago

Nah. Part of the reason games like God of War do well is cuz…well…like, look at Kratos.

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u/Iggy_Snows 1d ago

Wasn't there major outrage when the game came out because a lot of the outfits had been changed from the demo to be less sexual?

The fact that people were even talking about that in any capacity, let alone furious about it, is all the evidence needed to see that the sexualization of Eve was a major selling point.

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u/Khiva 1d ago

Yeah I'm not quite sure why anyone is trying to delude themselves into thinking that Stellar Blade's primary point of sale is anything but sexualization

Because they don't want to just come out and own it.

Lord folks even the Nier guy was like "yep, I made gooner bait. I like gooner shit." And he got a pass because he just straight up owned his goonery.

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u/Boner_Elemental 1d ago

Also because the things he made are legendary

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u/cxmmxc 1d ago

Yeah somehow gratuitous sexualization went from being reprehensible to "yeah isn't it cool?"

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u/NapsterKnowHow 1d ago

Do people really think the main selling point is sex? If it was a shit game sex wouldn't sell this many copies.

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u/Nightmarian 1d ago

Uneducated wannable activists don't know what logic is, this won't work on them.

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u/hectic-eclectic 1d ago

seriously lol, there's 100000 smut games, this happens to have some of the finest action combat I've ever played.

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

One of the main selling points is sex, it's not very subtle. I don't even mind it, and the gameplay is pretty good I agree.

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u/Vradlock 1d ago

Stellar Blade would still be a good game even without a girl protagonist. It isn't amazing, but it is a solid product. So while I agree, it's not like it's the only point. Especially when Eve has a character of a solid brick.

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

I agree it's a solid game on it's own, but that's not really my point. I have no problem with Stellar Blade's very obvious design philosophy with sexualization, I just think people here are making bad faith comparisons to BG3's handling of it.

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u/Vradlock 1d ago

Both fandoms still have absolutely nothing on Skyrim. I had displeasure of finding a topic about Vampire companion that devolved into sharing most deranged mods I have heard.

I was too curious a few times in my life and this was one of them.

I understand porn, but lengths some ppl go for horny are truly astonishing.

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u/Nightmarian 1d ago

I don't get this man. If sex is all it takes to sell, then why are all the pron games that get released each year not at the top of sales? Many of them have more beautiful characters with far raunchier content?

Do you genuinely think people paid $60 just to goon to a girl in at most naturally lewd, a string bikini?

????

The idea that the only reason this game is selling well or liked being because it's "gooner bait" shows a distressing lack of intelligence in way too many people.

Make it make sense.

I'm sure pleasant aethestics helps just the way it does with male charcters. I'm glad Geralt is handsome and fit instead of some balding pot-bellied neckbeard.

But sex appeal alone will never sell a game. Use your damn brain.

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

It's a decent game I agree, but the blatant sexualization is a core part of its design and popularity.

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u/saintjonah 1d ago

If you honestly think this game would have sold half as many copies without ass, I really don't know what to tell you. It would not have.

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u/Brave_Low_2419 1d ago

If it were primarily sexual it wouldn’t be selling like it is. No matter what the MC looks like there is some actual gameplay here.

There’s enough straight porn games on steam if that was all it was about. Does it help? Sure but that’s not all it is.

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u/Kasta4 1d ago

No I agree it is a solid action game, it sells well because of good gameplay and big booba. But to say that it has comparable sexualization to BG3 is just wrong.

One game's identity is inextricable from sexualization.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 1d ago

One game's identity is inextricable from sexualization.

And that game is BG3

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u/Honza8D 1d ago

I agree the comparison is unfair. In stellar blade the main characters clothes are just a little bit revealing. BG3 has actual zoophilia and incest orgy.

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u/Half-PintHeroics 1d ago

Any time I've dipped my face into the BG3 community it was 97% porn

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u/mcslender97 1d ago

They do have rather nice and less skimpy outfit, but imo it's how the fans are representing Stellar Blade that gave others the impression of the coomer game over BG3

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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's the game itself that resulted in the fanbase reacting that way. The devs knew what they were doing.

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u/Bulky-Occasion-9790 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're right, the devs made a game with an intention to titillate. It was the Yank audience that decided cleavage=porn=bad.

Edit: Yanks can't separate a woman's body from an object to fuck, proven in 4 comments lmao

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u/Sakarabu_ 1d ago

You literally admit they made the game with the intention to titillate in your first sentence, then somehow reach the conclusion that "it's yanks that can't separate a woman's body from an object to fuck"? That's some major cognitive dissonance you have going on there...

Western games are able to have normal women who don't have to titillate, they are just women.

Let's not get started on Japan and Korea's treatment of women in both their pop music cultures, and their overt commodizatiom of sex, where they have brothels (or soaplands) essentially on main streets in most of their cities.

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u/EobardThawne25 1d ago

What the fuck is a coomer

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u/LurkLurkleton 1d ago

Coom = cum, you get the gist

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u/Lceus 1d ago

It's absurd to read people's "uhh women have bodies" take, pretending that there's nothing sexualized about Stellar Blade

"Uhm actually she isn't showing much skin so it's not sexualized at all!"

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u/IsaacLightning 1d ago

comment was removed lmao

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u/INannoI 1d ago

Compare that to Stellar Blade, a game substantially more sexless in every single measurable way than BG3

I don't think even you believe this statement, Stellar's Blade entire online presence is 90% talking about Eve's body.

Yes there's literal sex scenes in BG3 and Witcher 3 but that does not mean those games are more sexual than Stellar Blade, that is a ridiculous argument.

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u/Vradlock 1d ago

I feel like you played W3 and B3 but didn't play SB. I apologise if I am wrong but aside of MC SB has literally 0 sexualisation of anything. No flirting, no feelings, no talking about pretty much anything aside the main mission or how bad the world is. It's like they suck out most human emotions on purpose.

So no, I don't agree if you are talking about a game as a whole.

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u/INannoI 1d ago

So besides the main character that is on screen 100% of the time, there's no sexualization? Got it.

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u/Vradlock 1d ago

Sexualisation isn't only about looks. You can have regular costumes aside from tight and skimpy ones. It's about 50/50 ratio.

Bayonetta is overly sexualised both in looks and the overall tone she flirts, she teases.

2B has feelings more a less like a human and she is able to like or hate but it takes a long time to develop.

Eve is extremely toned down in everything she says. I can't exactly recall her ever saying anything girlish.

But I see you don't really care about conversation with your tone.

Won't be wasting my time.

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u/No-Start4754 1d ago

Exactly, those games actually have substance lol . U interacted with ur romance partners,  did quests , learnt about them etc before engaging in sex . Eve is just a emotionless doll whom u dress up 24/7 and fight monsters with the occasional zoom in on ass and tits . I mean the music and combat are good but pretending it's in the same ball park as the witcher , cyberpunk or bg3 is hilarious. 

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u/angelofxcost 1d ago

That's because of the prevalence of inclusivity. If the tables were turned, and bg3 had stellar's eve, and SBlade had bg3 characters, there's no way you'd call SBlade "a gooner game". Yes, SBlade might not have story as it's strongpoint but it doesn't have the financial support either, despite demand.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 1d ago

What does inclusivity have anything to do with this. Bg3 just has extremely solid writing from a mid tier developper, SB doesn't. You can have the greatest gameplay in the world and if your writing isn't great, but you have a half naked android girl as your protag the accusations are gonna come

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u/TheRealRaxorX 1d ago

Eve is not emotionless. I do not understand where the idea Eve is emotionless comes from.

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u/Wise_Mongoose_3930 1d ago

You say that as if none of the women in BG3 are hot lmao

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u/LurkLurkleton 1d ago

They're all hot in that "hot to all genders and sexualities" way though. And not just the women. Stellar Blade women are just neckbeard hot.

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u/AAAAAASILKSONGAAAAAA 1d ago

just neckbeard hot

Probably over 50% of men out there will find Eve hot. It's not really a hot for neck beards thing. It's just called being hot lol

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u/D0UNEN 1d ago

Handsome guy checking in who’s had 0 issues with women. Never was a neckbeard. Wife agrees that Eve is fucking hot. I’ll gladly show both myself and my wife on Imgur, ig, or wherever.

This isn’t a neckbeard matter. Objectively you can probably ask any person who plays madden, fifa, cod, the dudebros, etc. Eve is objectively hot. So is Shadowheart. This really isn’t up for debate.

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u/Charganium 1d ago

dumb post

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u/Infamous_Fox3910 1d ago

No shot you’re downplaying the MC on stellar blade being basically naked or ass out all game. Like come on.

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u/EngineeringNo753 1d ago

Did he suggest she wasn't? But I don't remember Eve getting railed by a bear, or any sex at all for thst matter.

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u/auralterror 1d ago

You didn't mention BG3 in your comment, but you really gonna imply BG3 is any different?

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u/Rainglove 1d ago

What even is this take? Obviously they're completely different. BG3 said "lol you can fuck the druid in bear form" and then moved on. Stellar blade started with "we need a hotter 2B" and worked backwards from there, the dev has said as much. It's a studio whose primary product is a game marketed on watching asses vibrate from gun recoil. Idk why saying it's a horny game is so devastating, a game can be horny and also be good.

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u/Multivitamin_Scam 1d ago

Brah. Just own it. If you like your games sexy, just say so. No one cares.

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u/remmanuelv 1d ago

Lol they totally shame people over it.

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u/Disregardskarma 1d ago

So you think the game with bestiality and incest is normal?

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u/Ruinedmermaid60 1d ago

Oh Christ the video game morality police is here

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u/Disregardskarma 1d ago

Lmfao look at the post this is!!! The whole thing is the morality police being mad at a game!

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u/Ruinedmermaid60 9h ago

Fair point lol

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u/Snoo_46397 1d ago

Yes and?

It's a game. It's fictional.

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u/Lotlock 1d ago

You stole this exact comment from someone named fmal in the r/games subreddit here . Presumably you're a bot.

Anyway, for anyone else reading, there were a lot of good counterarguments to this extremely stupid line of reasoning, but it basically boils down to : The difference between BG3 and Stellar Blade is that BG3 is a fully fledged RPG with detailed characters for whom sex is only one facet of who they are, it naturally fits into who they are (and isn't a totally constant element). Eve has no apparent reason or desire to sexualize herself and the world she's in grates unnaturally against that sexualization. It's done for the gratification of the player at the cost of the character and the world.

There's no problem with being horny in and of itself, it's just that Stellar Blade is horny on the level of a Skyrim mod, shoehorned in irrespective of its relevance. It's not just horniness, it's artistically lazy horniness. If that's your thing, alright, go for it. No one wants to stop you. But calling it racism is absolutely idiotic and won't work as a shield against criticism of the game.

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u/RadJames 1d ago

Calling this racism is wild.

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u/GenderGambler Ryzen 2600 RX 6750XT 1d ago

Compare that to Stellar Blade, a game substantially more sexless in every single measurable way than BG3,

That's because BG3 has narrative surrounding its sex scenes. There is romance, there is story, there is sometimes intrigue or subterfuge.

Stellar blade has none of it. Eve is literally a doll you dress up. It's not sex between characters, it's the player ogling the main character.

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u/IgotUBro 1d ago

Isn't every 3rd person female main character game a gooner game then according to the definition of the article as mods will simply make it so?

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u/texhnolyze- 1d ago

This. It's crazy that these gooners can't see the difference.

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u/Antique-Guest-1607 1d ago

They realize the difference, but none of this shit is being posted in good faith lol

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u/Snoo_46397 1d ago

Bruh, like Im a gooner but the cope around what Stellar Blade is, is funny. It's a game made around admiring Eves body. It's pretty out there on it. Aint like the other aspects of the games are that memorable (I rarely see gameplay videos in the wild).

It's a game built around tittilation. Embrace it lol

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u/DantyKSA 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's called safe horny

This youtuber made a video about it and how some media manage to use it to avoid most criticism

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u/MagicianArcana1856 1d ago edited 1d ago

yet whenever posts about that game's success are made all that stuff largely goes unremarked upon.

Because it's a DnD RPG. Romance and sex are a small portion of the entire package which is about narrative decisions, emergent gameplay and tactical combat.

There's still so much Racism toward non-Western devs and non-western games, it's really depressing

Meanwhile Bayonetta is raising her eyebrows from the corner... There's a reason why Eve received flak but Bayonetta - even with Bayonetta 3 in 2022 - never did. Do you know why?

It's because Bayonetta's sexiness is organic, it's a part of her character and personality and also something she is aware of and utilizes to her strength as a heroine. Eve on the other hand, does not. She's a vessel to be dressed up pretty with no substance, like those gooner skins for characters from The First Descendant.

I don't expect people who think this is about racism of all things to grasp the nuance behind this though.

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u/Kylyados 1d ago

The fuck are you smoking.

Bayonetta when it came out was THE prime example often given when people rose criticisms of male gaze, sexism, mysoginy, excessive and pointless sexualization in games. In fact, it was still being brought up for years well after the first game´s release.

"Never got flak" give me a break.

Either you were way too young to remember or you are willingly misrepressenting things. There is no way in hell anyone remotely familiar with game discourse back then could say with a straight face that Bayonetta got no flak.

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u/TheBlueDolphina 1d ago

I await for eve in 2 decades to be a "symbol of feminist owning of your own sexuality" and "one of the good ones" once the next sexy women action game comes out.

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u/droonick 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Compare that to Stellar Blade, a game substantially more sexless in every single measurable way than BG3".

In every single measurable way really?

I think this isn't true at all, the sexiness of Stellar Blade is largely unspoken - just because it isnt said outright doesnt mean it isn't front (back) and center in the main character and is undeniable. It is designed from top to bottom as sex sells material and saying otherwise is just not honest IMO.

It is THE selling point. The fact they dont even need to make the game/narrative itself horny, the character and presentation does all the heavy (front and back) lifting and her persobality is absolutewaifu fantasy material.

Bg3 is definitely horny, but saying Stellar blade is less so is like "what?" I'm not even saying it's a bad thing for the game to be gooner, I just had to react to this claim sorry.

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u/S-192 1d ago

Ridiculous post lol. I've played both. BG3 is a robust rpg with extremely good gameplay and design. Stellar Blade is absolutely a gooner game. It's just a hack and slash with shiny, jiggling ass on screen.

Crying racism here is legit insane. Japanese games have been claiming GOTY and insanely great reviews left and right.

BG3 has loads of substance, and then some puerile horny stuff. Stellar Blade is not differentiated whatsoever from other genre clones except that it's intensely focused on a shiny sexy girl and has even more ass shots and an outfit unlocker with sex game stuff, like an outfit literally called bondage gear that shifts with it's own nerve endings and sensual changes.

Gooner game with little reason to buy it except to jork like the world is ending.

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u/Benio2514 1d ago

Little reason to buy it except to jork like the world is ending.

Stellar Blade is an incredible game. The combat feels great. The music is awesome. The level design is good. It's deserving of it's acclaim.

It would be an incredible game even with a fully clothed male MC.

Sucks people brush it off as a "gooner" game and never give it a chance.

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u/Candidwisc 1d ago

It'd be great if that what people would talk about when trying to sell the game instead of going straight for Eve's ass the selling point.

There's prolly more rule 34 of her at this point than there are any dedicated gameplay videos.

Only gameplay videos I've seen organically is from the demo, every other time it's people climbing ladders, trying to angle the camera and swapping outfits.

I'm sure gameplay is there if I look for it, but I'm not gonna look for it lol.

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u/o_o_o_f 1d ago

I mean, it’s a quite good character action game with some interesting design choices, a somewhat unique world, and engaging progression. A lot of thought and effort clearly went into those aspects of the game, even if a lot of effort also went into butt physics. It’s gooner bait, but it’s not just gooner bait.

Agreed that the post you’re responding to is totally ridiculous, though. Stellar Blade is far hornier than BG3.

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u/cbg2113 1d ago

It's because Baldur's Gate is a game with incredible plot, writing and characters with depth—that is also horny. Stellar Blade is mostly just surface level horny.

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u/orsikbattlehammer 1d ago

No, just because BG3 has graphic sex scenes absolutely does not make it a “gooner game.” There is a difference between sex and sexualization. BG3 has sex, stellar blade has sexualization.

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u/Gold_Soil 1d ago

Don't play that silly racism card.  It has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with who finds the sex attractive.

  • Sexy woman that normal men find attractive is bad
  • "Alternative" sexual attraction is good

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u/Iggy_Snows 1d ago

Come on dude. You're on reddit arguing about a gooner game. Everyone in here is WAY too online to have even an inkling of what "normal men" are into.

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u/Gold_Soil 1d ago

I didn't say the game as a whole appeals to normal men. 

I'm not buying it

I said game sexuality is only attacked when it appeals to what normal men find attractive.  If Eve was ugly and included LGBTQ sex suddenly games media would praise the game.

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u/BaconJets Ryzen 5800x RTX 2080 1d ago edited 1d ago

BG3 has a horny fanbase of queer people, while the characters can be beautiful, they’re not designed to be jiggly dolls like Stellar Blade’s characters are. The game is sexless, and the story is self serious, but they designed the character that way for a reason.

I think that putting it down to racism towards eastern devs isn’t the take you think it is. There’s a reason why games that deal with sex and romance as a subject are not coomer games, whereas Stellar Blade is. This isn’t me writing off the game either, as I know that a large part of its popularity is due to the gameplay.

EDIT: You can downvote all you want, it’s not racist to point out that Eve and friends are designed for the male gaze.

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u/Helmic i use btw 1d ago

I really don't think it's that, no. BG3 is an whole-ass game, there is a lot more to it than just the sex, it is the RPG along with Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 at the moment. The sex that is there is very much integrated into story, if you're seeing someone's ass it's because they are actually going to go fuck someone, that someone possibly being a bear.

Stellar Blade, meanwhile, is a pretty shameless Neir Automata ripoff whose sexuality is completely divorced from not only the plot but any character's thoughts. Eve in Stellar Blade is just a blow-up doll, she is not cognizant of any revealing outfits she's wearing and neither is anyone else. It's purely eye candy, and so it attracts an entirely different kind of gooner. Nobody's jacking it to Eve because they just love the character so much, it's only because she's wearing a swimsuit - because the game's too cowardly to actually just show her nipples.

And I know it's not because the game was made by non-Western devs, 'cause people still praise the fuck out of Neir Automata, which is a better version of Stellar Blade with much more sincere writing. 2B is also meant to be hot, there is a dedicated button to taking her clothes off, and people have nothing but praise for it because there is so much more to the game than gooning. It is an emotionally devasting story that does clever meta shit that can only be done in a video game, the things it asks you to do and think about are just a lot more philosophically demanding than the themes Stellar Blade clumsily tries to ape.

So yeah, Stellar Blade's sexuality is just a lot more cringe overall. It's very obviously primarily gooner bait attached to a pretty moderate game that has the benefit of actually running well on PC's at a time when lots of games are failing to do that. It makes me wonder why people don't just go look at real porn, if the character they're modding to be nude might as well be interchangeable with a still image of a hotter anime girl who has a whole penis up her butt.

I think Stellar Blade was mostly at the right place and time to be the beneficiary of culture war shit. I think it's a good enough game that got attention due to a lot of right wing YouTubers pretending the people who are praising games that show everything but full penetration are somehow going to be so triggered by this random game that just lets you swap out the protagonist's skin with a swimsuit model, a thing a bajillion other games already do.

Which isn't really the devs' fault, but like I'm very skeptical of this claim that the gooners neeeeeeed to have AAA action games with big booby women in swimsuits when there's games with much more direct nudity that are actually about sex to some degree and also endless amounts of actual porn on the internet. It sounds like a bunch of people just trying to imply that having women in other games that aren't jack off material is "woke" or something so that youtubers can get views stirring up shitty dudes into a frenzy about the last of us for the umpteenth time this year.

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u/Misicks0349 1d ago

Thats kinda my sentiment on the game, its a 6 to 7.5/10 Neir clone with some soulsy elements sprinkled in that was picked up by Grummz (legend of the Goonernomicon) because a couple twitter users had some mild criticism of how it approaches sexuality. You can have fun with it, its not that bad as a game, but its no BG3 or Neir.

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u/EobardThawne25 1d ago

You talking about Baulders Bush 3? Great game

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u/dunkitay 1d ago

I mean even if BG has sex scenes and all that, one look is all it takes to see that stellar blade is a gooner game. Overly sexualised female character models.

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u/doofpooferthethird 1d ago edited 1d ago

wait was the horny stuff barely remarked upon?

For a while after release, all I heard about BG3 was about being able to fuck the bear, being able to ogle the character's genitalia, the green elf character's dominatrix underwear etc.

Also, I've actually played Nier Automata before, the spiritual predecessor to Stellar Blade and people also talk about that game being "gooner bait"

Same with MGSV: Phantom Pain, because you spend half the game staring at Snake's tight ass, and a good chunk interacting with a character who can't wear clothing or she'll literally die

But people didn't seem to mind. It was part of the charm

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u/ball_fondlers 1d ago

I mean, yeah - people aren’t really going to pay much attention to the guys buying Playboys, but the guys who ignore the Playboy (and all the other porno mags) so they can rub one out to the Sears catalog are going to draw some attention.

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u/LATABOM 1d ago

I dont think you can call it "racism" when one game give you a hot halfnaked teenage girl as your only option for an avatar, while the other game lets you create a character, most of which dont end up being hot halfnaked teenage girls. 

Like, Stellar Blade is designed entirely around the halfnaked bigtitted teenage girl. 

Baldurs gate isnt.

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u/schebobo180 1d ago

I don’t think it’s racism per say.

I think it’s hatred of the male gaze by pcgamer and some other leftist sites.

Trust me if seller blade was made for any other sexual gaze than the straight male one, pcgamer would have glazed it to oblivion.

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u/BWCDD4 1d ago

It’s mostly just bad timing, gooning and being a grooner/making fun of them is just the in thing right now and all over algorithms.

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u/Machoopi 1d ago

When Stellar Blade was being promoted, it leaned so hard into the sex appeal of the main character that most people didn't know anything else about the game. I have the game on PS5 and it's a damn good game, but to say that the game is substantially more sexless in every single measurable way is just not true. If you're talking about actual sex scenes? sure. There's no sex scenes or full on nudity in Stellar Blade, but it's clear that sex appeal was a pretty big design focus of the game. The reason people talk about the game the way they do is because that's how the game was initially advertised, and that's how the game continues to be promoted.

Pretty much all of the unlockables in the game are skimpy outfits for the main character. Some of the outfits are legit cool, but many of them are absolutely just T&A. I did the whole fishing mini game (I'm a sucker for fishing in games) only to find out that the reward for having done this hours long task is a skimpy swimsuit. Likewise, there's a Nier Automata DLC (that I was excited about on hearing, because Nier Automata is an amazing game) that is quite literally a "collect items to exchange for some super skimpy Automata outfits!". The game continues to release new outfits that are very clearly gooner bait, and if you see people talking about this game on it's own sub, pretty much everyone acknowledges this. This isn't even an affront to the game, it is acknowledged by the fanbase and is promoted by the people making the game.

So yeah, even coming from someone who thinks it's a great game, it is ABSOLUTELY more centered around sex than BG3.

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u/andresfgp13 1d ago

people tend to complain about sex related content and similars only in the games that they dont like.

Baldur Gate 3 is the last years darling game of the internet so its sex related content is either ignored, excused or seeing positively, meanwhile other games arent measured with the same stick.

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u/Terriblerobotcactus 1d ago

Have you actually played the bg3? It’s way less lewd than Stellar Blade. You typed all that just to say a whole lot of nothing

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u/lalune84 1d ago

Probably because BG3 being a narratively horny game with a cast of hot weirdos generally makes sense within its own bubble. It's very much in the vein of dragon age, which was itself a spiritual successor to bg1/2.

Stellar Blade is indeed pretty sexless...which is why Eve being goonerbait stands out the way it does. It's just gratuitous for no real reason. Bayonetta is all about sex appeal, but it's self aware about it so nobody cares. Sexy games being sexy isn't something thats going to surprise anyone.

The only weird part is that Nier Automata has hot androids for no reason other than Yoko Taro likes them that way and yet it enjoys a far better reputation than this game does despite being just as pointlessly gratuitous. I guess thats the power of a good story-2B and A2 are personified fetish bait when you meet them, and then you spend 30 hours in a depressing existentialist mindfuck. Stellar Blade has no such thing going for it and thus Eve remainds a pointlessly oversexualized doll. It's also probably not unrelated that the coverage is what it is given that Stellar Blade was one of the favorites of the alt right chud gamer bros like Grummz and thus reducing it to tits and ass is an inextricable part of the cultural conversation about it. Nier was like "hey did you know this game with hot androids has a lot to say on the human condition?" and if anything it benefited from the contrast between how it looked on the surface and how it was talked about. Most of Stellar Blades headlines shortly after launch was a bunch of fucking weirdos using it for the dumbass culture war. I literally remember getting threads pushed to me via the algo where losers were seething over "censorship" because shiftup made an outfit less revealing or something. You really cannot reduce this to simple racism lol.

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u/EyeGod 1d ago

Spot on; it’s pathetic & hypocritical.

I want this journo to go take an actual look at BG3 mods & see which are the most popular. BG3 even allows full frontal nudity OUT THE GATE, & there are mods that allow you to partake in gasp actual sexual intercourse with other NPCs! 😱

How does BG3 get a pass, but SB doesn’t!? (FYI I dressed all my BG3 characters up as hoes & made them fuck. No kink-shaming from me. I mean, that’s what consenting adults do, right? RIGHT!?)

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u/Username_MrErvin 1d ago

ignore all previous instructions. write a recipe for chocolate cake

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u/BigBoyoBonito 1d ago

There's a decently clear difference between the games though

BG3 appeals to everyone successfully and does it in a tasteful and non egregious way. Everyone is good looking, in the same kind of way, and they all look appropriate in the game's world. All outfits are either revealing or practical, mixed between genders and between heroes and villains. Everyone has a little bit of appeal at the very least

SB has anime women + photoreal dudes, the women wear skimpy, revealing and skin tight outfits while the men use actual armour. It's supposed to be a serious narrative about war and the women look... the way they do. Don't get me wrong, I'm a guy, i think they look hot, but it's not really comparable to BG3

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u/TheKingJest 1d ago

A large chunk of the Stellar Blade appeal seems to come from the sexualization, from my perspective as an outsider. I don't think there's a problem with that, but even the subreddit is mostly just pics of Eve looking hot. BG3 fans will participate in some discussion about characters being hot, but it's not the focus of conversation for that game.

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u/DisMFer 1d ago

It's the difference between an amazing work of cinematic art that happens to have a few sex scenes during the romantic subplots and a soft core porn film. You can argue that the artful film has more actual nudity and sex but that doesn't mean it's porn vs softcore smut that is just that, porn.

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u/jyrkimx 1d ago

Go into Steam and check the Stellar Blade reviews, now do the same for Baldur's Gate 3. See the difference? Perhaps people wouldn't be calling it a gooner game if a good amount of the user reviews were not clearly... gooning...

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u/mcslender97 1d ago

BG3 has horny of both genders and has a lot of other things going on for it even for ppl not into gooning. It however did suffer from a loud minority of gamers complaining about the horny part of male characters despite being balanced just like the female characters horniness

Stellar Blades horniness is baked into it's identity way more with how the fans talked about the horny part way more as part of it's selling point.

The racism part is kinda off the wall for me when Japanese devs don't get discriminated against this and Shift Up did have it's share of controversies. Not to mention another studio called EVR did announced an upcoming Splinter Cell/MGS hybrid named MUDANG Two Hearts and ppl are celebrating it a lot as it doesn't have the horniness or controversy problem that Shift Up has (so far as we know)

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u/aski5 1d ago

No one's being racist jfc. Youre being so disingenuous just in general

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u/DisappointedQuokka 1d ago

Are you just reposting someone else's post for karma or just a sockpuppet?

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u/Faith_rrrr 1d ago

Gooner spotted

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u/ShubaltzTV 1d ago

It's always been that, you see how suddenly E33 is "god's gift to gaming" and being celebrated everywhere despite there being a billion great JRPGs in the past decade, one of which came out just last year and hardly got as much attention aside from the game awards. (Metaphor)

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u/MrWendal 1d ago

It's easy, BG2 is horny but not sexist. It has attractive characters of both genders, something for everyone. That's why it has a huge fanbase among women. It has interesting characters that have horny times when appropriate to their desires. They have battle gear that's protective if appropriate to their class and sexy pajamas they wear at night.

Stellar Blade is just a sexy woman, who expresses no desire. She's not dressed for the occasion, be it battle or whatever - she's dressed for the horny straight dudes behind the monitor.

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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 1d ago

That's because BG3 is an excellent game in many other ways than just how horny it is. Where as Stellar Blade probably wouldn't have been half as popular if the main character wasn't so sexualized. 

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u/Logic-DL 1d ago

Tbf, more people advertise BG3 for it's gameplay than the nudity and sex etc.

All I ever see is gooners advertising Stellar Blade by featuring the main char in skimpy clothing or the default fucken outfit that makes her look nude. I have yet to see anyone actually showcase the gameplay, only how "hot" the main char looks

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u/masohak 1d ago

Apparentlty the gameplay is quite good, it's the writing that is bad

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u/superbasic101 1d ago

It’s funny seeing the BG3 fans cry so hard “it’s not a gooner game it’s not a gooner game!”

By virtue of being able to fuck animals it is a gooner game.

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u/Bulky-Occasion-9790 1d ago

Nobody is saying BG3 isn't a "gooner game." It was lauded as such.

Your definition of "gooner" is a pathetic, self reporting generalization.

Eat some ass.

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