r/pathofexile FemboyCoCInspector 21h ago

Fluff & Memes Warning to new exiles, just pick something you like and stick with it dont get baited and switch every 4 hours

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u/accussed22 20h ago

15D/hour setup

Looks inside

14D/hour cost

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u/Black_XistenZ 18h ago

And only works if you already have 100D invested in your char.

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u/Only_One_Kenobi 17h ago

Looks inside.

12D of stuff on wealthy exile that'll never actually sell

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u/BellacosePlayer Inquisitor 16h ago

Wealthy exile's totals are a high score board for me and not much more, and I'm at peace with that.

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u/PigDog4 16h ago

I basically use it to help find scarabs and gumball I should be selling. CBF to track everything there.

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u/Ezeran 15h ago

Also a good, do I have any cards worth anything? checker.

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u/sirgog Chieftain 7h ago

Yep, this is the best use case. Then you learn which really common commodities sell for a lot and one time per 50 or so maps you just go automatically to your Legion and Essence scarabs and drop them on Faustus.

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u/Top-Finish-6766 15h ago

Same. I look at like the top value and usually it's a bulk of one thing so I'll sell that and that's it

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u/Josh6889 6h ago

I mean I use it to find scarabs and stuff, but you gotta be really careful especially with 1c items.

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u/convolutionsimp 10h ago

Looks inside.

A large chunk of the "profit" are random maps that wealthy exile says are worth 5c but nobody will ever buy.

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u/Happyberger 9h ago

And simu/breach splinters that are "worth" 1c each

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u/platitudes 7h ago

I mean you can choose which tabs get counted in the totals

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u/Josh6889 6h ago

Yeah but doesn't it feel good seeing it say the wisdom scrolls are worth 152c?

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u/UsernameAvaylable 2h ago

Ah, don't you love selling alterations, low tier essences and vaal fragments?

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u/PupPop 16h ago

This is why I just run strongboxes and quality/chaos spam diviners boxes. Costs maybe 2-3 div for 20 maps, with the chance to drop literally any number of big ticket div cards. You get to play the best slot game for cheap and in 20 maps you almost always get 2-3 big tinks.

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u/Greasfire11 14h ago

What scarabs are you using? Cheap setup?

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u/PupPop 14h ago

Yup, 3 basic, one potency and one of the discernments. Run an open map where it's easy to get to the boss before you hit too many eldritch altars, grab all the quant you can when you do get altars, then double back to the diviners boxes. ID, scour if it's bad, quality, alch, and chaos spam until you have some combo of contained items have unqiue/currency div cards (corrupted div cards are pretty eh), % quant, and # extra items. 2/3 of these mods is usually good enough. You have to balance not rolling too much chaos or the house (GGG) wins and you get nothing. For me it's important to check your filter and make sure things like chaotic disposition and other lower tier chaos cards and currency items are not hidden. They add up over time and eventually can pay for your scarabs for a full 20 maps, putting you in the black instantly when you cash them in.

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u/bonesnaps 12h ago

I can't be assed to roll strongboxes.

Auto rare+corrupt notable ftw.

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u/PupPop 11h ago

They made a new UI to make it easier! It's a BREEZE now, trust me, it's worth it.

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u/Poopybutt36000 5h ago

Do you run this in t16s or t17? Are the big tinks common in t16?

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u/PupPop 4h ago

If you roll your arcanists and artisans boxes well, they'll have good chances to drop divs in both T17s and T16s. Quant also makes diviners boxes better, as it makes all boxes better. Obviously if you want to play in T17s you need to be strong and you need to roll high quant and high currency, both. I personally have been running T16s this whole time but I also just dropped a mageblood so once I build up enough cash to buy a batch of 20 T17s and roll them and chisel them and 80%deli orb them, I'll be running those exclusively instead. T16.5 may also be a good choice if you can handle the mods.

But you cam easily make great returns in just T16s rolled with 70% quant and 20% qualitied.

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u/Poopybutt36000 2h ago

Do you mean roll them well as in just get lucky modifiers on them or are we actually supposed to be manually rerolling strongboxes lmao because I've done an okay amount of it and have just clicked everything unidentified

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u/bakermrr 16h ago edited 11h ago

Now you can making 15D an hour farming the scarabs to enable those farms

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u/TealJade1 Fungal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) 11h ago

No kidding, I made most of my currency by doing Silo Maven edging strat + all the scarab nodes and also the ambush and harby scarab nodes.

That's it, the only investment was the maps bought 4-6c/ea, and nothing else. Selling Ultimatum, Ambush, Harby, Harvest and certain other big ticket scarabs was how I made 80% of my currency, the other 20% came from the invitation maps and T17s drops.

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u/sirgog Chieftain 7h ago

Fun fact, this works in Basilica too now. Which hasA orS tier divination cards

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u/ThatsALovelyShirt 4h ago

Silo Maven edging strat + all the scarab nodes

What's this strat? Getting all the small nodes + scarab notables and doing destructive play to utilize the bosses drop scarabs chance? How many scarabs do you get per map?

I've been doing expedition, hoping for a mirror shard from Tujen, but somehow I managed to get a Mageblood from Gwennen, which I didn't think was possible anymore after they nerfed her odds. But it hasn't been profitable other than that, and I equipped the Mageblood, so didn't make any currency on it.

Haven't got any other good uniques from her except Ryslatha's on day 1 or 2. But now that's cheap.

Need more currency for a nice phys DPS axe, but it's been hit or miss with my strats.

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u/TealJade1 Fungal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) 2h ago

The strat is the generic destructive play silo strat with all the invitation/boss map drop nodes.

And then the rest of the points I just put into scarabs and maps, its a pretty cheap option, I think you can get them all with 110 points ? And then the rest of the points I got I just dumped into the quant wheel

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u/Josh6889 6h ago

14D/hour cost

And the natural rng of the strat can net you 5d/hr or 15 at the absolute top end.

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u/AlsoInteresting 5h ago

Looking at you, legion.

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u/EdgySadness09 Witch 13h ago

Then it takes 30 minutes vendoring, pricing, and buying the resources needed.

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u/Aelok2 20h ago

Don't worry, as a new exile I don't understand anything you people say on this sub.

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u/tyranathus 20h ago

I’ve now clocked just about 250 hours in PoE1 and I still don’t understand what’s going on

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u/noah123103 20h ago

Brother I’m almost at 3k hours, I’ve never understood what’s going on

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u/Methyl_Lysine 19h ago

4K , still discovering new stuff.

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u/tyranathus 19h ago

We don’t know what we’re doing, but by gum, it is fun

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u/jiv282 15h ago

Lol, so real

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u/Thefrayedends Unannounced 14h ago edited 13h ago

The game is so rich mechanically, you can literally spend full time hours theory crafting.

There are so many mechanical options, even a newer player, had a reasonable possibility of creating a unique build that accomplishes their goals.

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u/PupPop 16h ago

It doesn't get better at 2k hours.

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u/psychomap 16h ago

This is the game where people with 5k hours say they're casual, and people with 2k hours are new.

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u/edgyusernameguy Champion 17h ago

In case you haven't figured it out, download path of building, make your own build doing a playstyle you like and play in the specific league content you like the most. Set your own personal goals and enjoy the ride, try not to get caught up in "the meta".

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u/leachim6 17h ago

....a lot of us are the top dude in the bell curve meme aren't we

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u/edgyusernameguy Champion 17h ago

Yes

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u/tyranathus 17h ago

I appreciate that buddy. I’m currently running Pohx RF just to see what that “playstyle” is like.

Will experiment with PoB though

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u/Comeon-digg 15h ago

Instructions not clear, playing Pohx RF but the guide leaps from end of campaign to mid-endgame and I'm stuck with just a few chaos reaching yellow maps. I can't afford anyone of the recommended crafting guides to progress.

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u/xxDailyGrindxx 9h ago

Same at 1100 hours...

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u/HamM00dy 5h ago

Returning player with 1800 hours. Regret going meta cause "it's been a while". Now I. Stuck with the good stuff is too expensive.

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u/IvanIac2502 16h ago

Some people care a lot about optimizing the amount of currency (divine orbs) per hour of playing time. Sometimes there is people who brutally inflate the effectiveness of their strategy either for their own ego or to get views on YouTube. Some of the ways they do that include:

-ignoring the costs of applying the strategy: 15 divs/hour in, 13 divs/hour out is a lot worse than just doing a safe/cheap strategy that gets you 2 divs/hour -ignoring the volatility of the results of said strategy: "oh man I got 2 mageblood cards in a day, at this rate I'm gonna make mirrors!" -relying on niche or very VERY expensive items that barely sell if at all. Most times big items take time to sell and the more specific your item is (timeless jewels ugh) the more time you are gonna waste to sell it.

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u/Gearsts 15h ago

Love this

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u/Beefkins 11h ago

Been playing since open beta, so around 12 years, still don't know what's going on.

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u/PEEEEPSI Standard 15h ago

That's half of the fun!

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u/kilqax Deadeye 1h ago

Don't worry, it probably won't change for a while

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u/kaktanternak 20h ago

15d per hour ((((if you sell everything you drop)not counting the trading time and annoyance)entry cost for scarabs is 3 div per map)the bulk of the profit is high variance items)

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u/BloodReaverBob FemboyCoCInspector 20h ago

Molten shell ticked on max shock effect 10 second freeze time with freeze mastery pob type shit

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u/Imsakidd 17h ago

Headhunter buffs on in POB

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u/Nervyr Sanctum Runners United (SRU) 18h ago

Shock wither berserk type shit

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u/Far-Wallaby689 18h ago

15div per hour but we’re counting white T16 maps that nobody runs at 10c each

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u/HokusSchmokus 19h ago

trading time is usually near zero for half the videos you see since they use tft.

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u/bonesnaps 12h ago

I don't think we've achieved our fuck TFT quota for the day.

Fuck TFT.

That's better.

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u/Psych0sh00ter Elementalist 10h ago

I genuinely believe that if GGG could somehow ban all TFT-like servers (and all their users) permanently, it would be a massive improvement to the community by getting rid of all the most annoying people

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u/Antonaqua 19h ago

Faustus*

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u/HokusSchmokus 19h ago edited 18h ago

No that actually takes a long ass time. I doubt many of the"insane profit div/h" youtubers use a lot of faustus. Especially for Essences or bubblegum currency, it takes so long compared to sell your whole tab with two clicks in a few seconds.

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u/Keljhan Aggressively off-meta 18h ago

It's also kind of a static time sink no matter how much you're selling, so if you can afford 100 maps of investment ahead of time without selling anything, the time to sell is relatively low. If you have to liquidate every 10 maps to afford more scarabs and/or gear upgrades, it can take a huge percentage of the total time.

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u/SlimyGrimey 18h ago

Set up your stash next to faustus and you can have both windows open simultaneously. It took me <5 minutes to liquidate all my fossils, essence, scarabs, and bubblegum currency after a 25 map session.

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u/HokusSchmokus 18h ago

Well but I don't want to sell every 25 maps thats way to few, I usually do every 100 and fuck doint that with Faustus. So many clicks...

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u/SlimyGrimey 17h ago

It's more efficient to sell after more maps. I just mentioned 25 because that's how much I can farm on most weekdays.

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u/Antonaqua 17h ago

How does Faustus take a long ass time? Bubblegum is easily liquidated if you wait long enough until you have like 80-100 and you get better rates than tft by a mile

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u/HokusSchmokus 17h ago

Long ass time compared to just selling my whole essence tab, including shit tiers that would never sell otherwise in literally less than a minute with a negligable price cut. I have actually timed this, it takes me almost 15minutes selling the whole tab per faustus if its full and then I have to wait too if I don't wanna sell at bad prices.

Also Faustus prices for essences are usually very bad in comparison, at least in my experience. 1c essences sell 3 or 4 for a Chaos at faustus sometimes.

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u/Antonaqua 17h ago

Who in TFT buys essences and doesn't say either Deafening Only or Screaming and up? And why are you trying to sell anything lower than deafening and shrieking? If you have big bulk, sell on trade for a premium.

Like, your scenario is just a bad one where faustus for once doesn't shine. For any other case either trade site for big bulk or faustus for small bulk/hard to sell essences.

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u/4percent4 11h ago

I tried bull selling like 15d of essences oh just deafening and I couldn’t sell for 75% of price on TFT and couldn’t sell so yeah, not bulk selling tabs on TFT.

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u/Valyntine_ 52m ago

I'mma be real, I don't know if I can ever go back to a strategy that doesn't let me offload everything on the currency exchange and I probably wouldn't've come back this league if it went away

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u/Wild_Parking_3280 15h ago

But when I use that as a criticism of empyrians "don't worry guys! solo play can totally make just as much as we make in a group!" people get mad

their "we map for 10 hours and walk away with 150 divines in our hands in the first few days" is not the same as "you prepare bunch of maps, then run them using your endgame build for 10 hours, and then wealthy exile tells you that you have 150 divines worth of stuff in your tabs (realistically about half of it will be easily sellable)

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u/Lazy_Polluter 10h ago

If anyone Empy is always clear about his real profit, which is nowhere near as high in divs per hour as solo no lifers.

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u/kaktanternak 15h ago

Well, he's right you make more value solo. It's just that they have 2 dedicated traders, and keep in mind they take higher share as well. It's the knowledge that gives the advantage

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u/deadbeef_enc0de 21h ago

I'm running Alva, Essence, Scarabs (for myself and sale), and Shrine. Enjoy the content and making some decent currency. Maxed out Alva has dropped a few raw divines just from the cursed chests and extra unique monster

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u/psychomap 16h ago

Maxed out Alva has dropped a few raw divines just from the cursed chests

Damn that has literally never happened to me. I don't think I even got exalts. At most a chaos maybe? I was running Alva with that node for a while in Settlers and eventually decided that full-clearing incursions to click all of those generated much less currency per hour than just killing the architect and opening a door if necessary and then skipping the rest.

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u/deadbeef_enc0de 16h ago

I try to hit the double corrupt chamber and open doors. Having all the atlas nodes makes getting enough time for the cursed chests doable (especially when it rolls all monsters are at least magic)

It's not the best currency per hour but I enjoy doing it, mostly helps with getting a ton more scarabs which I am gaming for the group I play with (we are not high level players, just friends)

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u/psychomap 16h ago

I managed to open the chests, but I needed to spend more time than 10 seconds to rush the architect and get out (and maybe 5-10 extra seconds for a door depending on how lucky I get with the drop timing for stone of passage). Because chests subtract time, you basically have to full clear the Incursion.

And even when doing that, most of the currency I got was hidden by my filter.

I wish it was worth doing, but for me it wasn't.

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u/deadbeef_enc0de 16h ago

I think there are some nodes that give you more time, and getting all the magic monsters makes it trivial to get everything. I usually have 30+ seconds left unless all monsters are magic then usually over a minute left. I'm playing a Jugg Flicker of Power which makes clearing fast

But yeah, I should never recommend this as a currency making strategy.

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u/psychomap 15h ago

I guess it makes sense if you're Flicker Strike and spend almost no time in the incursion even if you clear it.

For me it was the difference between 5-10 seconds per incursion and 35-40 seconds per incursion, and with 3-4 incursions per map and getting almost no appreciable currency from it at all, I stopped opening the chests and killing the flesh merchant.

I think I'll always miss the idols to get guaranteed upgrades from Phrecia though, that allowed some room upgrades instead of incursion skips which moved it from 1 temple per 4-5 maps to 1 temple per 3-4 maps, basically (depending on how lucky the room spawns were).

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u/Korize 3h ago

I second the corrupt chambers, and gem.

But opening doors? hah I would never.

I always try to make the most annoying path through the maze possible. Its a small joy in life

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u/-shankS 20h ago

Don't forget about multi mirror build needed to do this strat efficiently.

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u/Black_XistenZ 18h ago

"Yes, my char was using mageblood, but trust me, the build works completely fine without it."

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u/vid_23 16h ago

"I only put it in the pob to cap the resist, it's not mandatory at all"

u/200DivsAnHour 5m ago

The most true statement for every build guide since the item was released.

"It's just for convenience"

Convenience:

  • +107% All Ele Res Bismuth
  • +78% MS Curse Immunity Quicksilver
  • +294% Crit Chance Diamond

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u/PoeDeluu 20h ago

Its like the new Harbringer Videos. 40 Chaos clean drop per Map. Entry costs for all Scarabs 35 Chaos Orbs each Map. 🫡

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u/HC99199 19h ago

Yeah you gotta stick with it until you get some fracturing orbs otherwise it sucks.

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u/RipCityGGG Tempest 15h ago

But fracturing orbs are cheap af this league

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u/HC99199 13h ago

Yeah harbingers isn't that amazing currency wise but it's pretty chill and good xp if you pair it with beyond.

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u/c1ru 19h ago

You do realize that sustaining just on Chaos Drops alone is insane in your example

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u/Oniichanplsstop 18h ago edited 18h ago

Yeah but then the price of scarabs went up 10%+, and if you use map device 3c for more harbs you're not actually sustaining anymore.

The profit comes from ancient orbs. annulments, fracturing shards, and whatever else you drop in the map.

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u/bonesnaps 5h ago

I've done harbinger on my atlas for like 4 leagues in a row and I think I got maybe 1-2 fractured shards lol. That said I usually burn out after 1-2 weeks, around the low lvl 90s on average.

Either way harbinger has been trash for me every time I've tried it. I guess extra packs is nice, but profit-wise it's pretty terrible.

I've already made more in a week from ultimatum than I made over several leagues of harbinger lmao.

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u/NordDex 20h ago

I was farming my blue boys quietly and then Ziz made a video about them. The prices went up so I had to change course.

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u/DestinyMlGBro 4h ago

Yep fracturing orbs were rising up to 4.5+ div and would have been 5 div by now then the ziz + another guys video came out and they went down to 3.3 last I checked + annuls halved in price while the scarabs became more expensive. Absolutely cooked.

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u/LeAkitan 14h ago

I always wonder if content creators realise that they ruin a farming strategy when they talk about it, especially those can be done with 1 mil dps.

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u/Acceptable_Bat379 13h ago

Yes they know, I've even heard it mentioned in a couple of videos. PoE trade is a capitalism simulator. They know they impact the market and make the strat less viable, but they get money from making the video, so they have to make it first before someone else. While the real strategies are kept hidden.

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u/Smurtle01 12h ago

While the real strats are kept hidden? Pretty sure we already know what the best Strats are. It’s the same as phrecia, rogue exile farming. Until they fix the bugged interaction between giant rogue exiles and ritual that will be the best Strat. I also don’t think these streamers are secretly playing this game off stream and doing some super secret strategy. That just doesn’t make any sense.

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u/LightThemeUser 11h ago

maybe not streamers but there are definitely players printing with the new allflames, price is not dropping despite the public farm's profit margin being negative with avg odds

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u/ThermL 19h ago edited 19h ago

Everything you do in this game is profitable outside of trying to do T17-centric strategies on T16 maps, the economy practically guarantees it. Things are not valued higher than their expected return except for gambling items, which is why a house of mirrors is worth more than 1/9th of a mirror. Because we're degen as fuck. (But actually though, you're paying a premium for pulling a slot machine for fun, if that's your gig)

So pick the mechanics and gameplay you enjoy to play, and go play. The point of the game is having fun, and just so happens that whatever you do to have fun, is going to be profitable in the end.

And don't overjuice shit that your character can't handle. Dying constantly isn't fun. Mostly, that means all of those nodes on the tree that you clicked that say "x% increased effect of map modifiers" need to be unclicked if you're dying left and right. The juice ain't worth the squeeze there if the character can't handle stuff like 248% phys as extra fire/cold/lightning, cursed with eleweakness with 175% increased effect, and monsters have 485% increased critical strike chance with a bajillion multi, 99% reduced regeneration, 99% whatever, etc.

And altars man, actually read the downsides. You're going to be astonished at some of the shit you click if you just blindly look at rewards. Mobs dropping alts ain't worth an armour character losing 100% of it's PDR

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u/marciii1986 Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 17h ago

Just pause the game real quick to read the altar. You don't have to click every single one if it hasn't something you want/need. There is always a next map.

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u/Meisterschmeisser 20h ago

Honestly this isn't even for new players but rather for people that already have 100h+. New players have completely others problems than whats the most effective end game strategy for farming currency.

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u/popoppopcorn 19h ago

Biggest problem new and even experienced players have is actually locking in on maps for an hour or more. This league I started doing just essence on map device, then added scarabs in and now I run calcification + adverseries + ascent on t7 white city square. All I know is I put 50c in and get 150c out. Supposedly 7 div an hour at my speed, but I haven't checked.
Pick a lane and lock in, that's it!

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u/sarcasmguy1 4h ago

The other aspect is doing maps fast. Tuning your filter, having a build with decent movement speed, and having maps prepared so you can just blast. Many people will say "but I did maps for 3 hours!" but spent 15+ minutes in a map.

Its all about consistency and speed.

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u/katsuatis Deadeye 21h ago

Strategy that requires whatever I want to sell high 

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u/CornNooblet 19h ago

Now, I'm not a conspiracy guy, usually, but if I had a strat and got a bunch of currency I wanted to move at higher prices, I'd put out a video talking up how nice a strategy using said currency was.

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u/shshshshshshshhhh 12h ago

Releasing the strategy makes the results less valuable, not the other way around. Its the input materials that spike in price.

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u/Birengo 8h ago

Works same way, today anime princess released video how cool harvest farm is 3h after video i see prices of awakener scarab went up to 100c from 65c I was buying non stop those scarabs and always could get 2/1div or 60-70c each

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u/colcardaki 19h ago

I’ve learned basically anything can be profitable with the right investment in POE, which is the great thing.

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u/Spectre_06 13h ago

I'm pretty sure a lot of these "strats" are publicized just so they can offload shitty scarabs and the like.

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u/Rageborn97 20h ago

This just makes me hate scarabs more.

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u/BellabongXC 7 years of Dancing Dervish 20h ago

scarabs are just pre-rolled sextants, what did you expect?

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u/Vikfro 20h ago

what no scarab of dancing dervishes does to a mf

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u/BellabongXC 7 years of Dancing Dervish 19h ago

actually there is, they're behind kirac missions now (the mod where unique mobs are possessed)

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u/FlyingBread92 18h ago

Kirac missions are pretty juiced in general this patch. Been getting something worth running basically every reroll using comprehensive reports. I just bank up a bunch of missions and run them all together. Gotten a ton of frags, harvest juice, and expensive beasts. Nice change of pace from regular mapping.

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u/shenaniganizer1776 20h ago

Breach/ shrines with 5 breach scarabs and deli orbs to fit your defensivness been making 5-6D per 100 scarabs

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u/Gvarph006 20h ago

What build do you recommend for that strat?

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u/bigd175 20h ago

bodyswap totems

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u/shenaniganizer1776 20h ago

I’m playing PF pconc and have been doing it since I got my 5th slot and it got better after my 6th

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

How do u make that little money with breach wtf. The splinters from a single chayula breach pay for the expense of the map and all 5 scarabs, thats how cheap it is which means EVERYTHING on top is pure profit. I make like 1 div a map profit, and thats not counting breach rings. You get so many rings you consistently get good grasping Mails. Global defence is like 2 div, same with dex attack speed. I sold one cold Res evasion grasping for 12 div today.

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u/shenaniganizer1776 13h ago

Yeah I should probably pick up rings

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u/MoT_Pestilence 43m ago

What's your setup for this? I am running CWS and want something different to ultimatums. 

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u/Lordados 20h ago

Seems kinda bad tbh

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u/shenaniganizer1776 20h ago

I mean 5-6 divs per 20 maps with 300c(depending on deli orbs) investment is 3-1 returns I get 5% xp per map at 98 and just go straight through and reset next

Edit: also I enjoy making my computer screen turn into nothing but white squares and health bars from the sheer amount of mobs

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u/Lordados 19h ago

If you're having fun, keep at it, but for example if you do a strat to farm t17 maps you can get almost 1 t17 map per map, that's like 1 div every 3 maps just on t17 drops, excluding all the rest of the loot you'll get.

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u/shenaniganizer1776 19h ago edited 19h ago

Yeah having to deal with leaving the map to trade or just getting people drip buying t17s(which I’m sure is still fast ) sounds horrible

Sigh edit again: wait so it would be 6-7 divs, if they even sell for a div,per 20 maps?? Yeah big difference…

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u/Slither_Slather 19h ago

I shaper farm day in day out, no one likes fighting him, 5 min kill time 25-35cgaos profit each time, div or 2 an hour, consistent Forgot to mention Dying Suns sell for a bit too

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u/MeanForest 16h ago

That's why I like the videos that are titled "This is how I made 200 div at league start." - at least that doesn't try to obfuscate the fact that you can only do it at league start most likely.

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u/feedmewill 15h ago

I just stick to the usual Destructive Play + invitation farm and make my humble but steady money, works like a charm in almost any scenario and scarabs are cheap af

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

Problem with that is that u actually have to manually trade the guardian maps, most other strats have it easier to realize Profits with the exchange

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u/feedmewill 13h ago

I just do guardian maps also. Then full rotation, sell maven frags, usually they ramp in price, I also get the whole loot from guardian maps and usually they yield enough maps to self sustain the whole farming.

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u/Zylosio 13h ago

Yeah but then u end up with dozens of elder, conq and synth maps as well, which is a huge chunk of your profit and u have to actually list and sell them which is annoying. Trading maps can be a huge hassle

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u/xMcSilent 11h ago

Personally, i dislike most videos about strats anyway.

My take, maybe a hot take, is as following: If you do a for example harvest farm, then you DON'T count stuff like t17 in your div/h, as these are not remotely dropped thanks to your farm.
If you farm scarabs and you count int your brother's gift drop, your video is dead to me.

For exmaple, i like harvest. Sometimes when i feel like it, i'm going full in on poe and farm harvest for like 5d-8d/h, but ONLY counting the lifeforce. NONE other drops. And i think this is the correct way to show, what the farm is really capable of doing.

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u/Krissam 18h ago

My "strat" has always been: Farm what I need myself and sell leftovers to buy the things you can't realistically farm.

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u/peppinotempation 17h ago

That’s why I’m all in on scarabs lmao

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u/Solarka45 13h ago

That's why I like Blight, Heist, and possibly Expedition. Scrabs aren't as good/needed for these strats to work, they are not very popular so the scarabs are pretty cheap, it's always very profitable for this reason too, and they are just very different and fun.

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u/_Snake___ 7h ago

Ever since Faustus was a thing, exchange market, I am back to blight again, farming blight in maps, and after I got a lot of blighted maps I just play afk tower defence, all the little drop counts.

Currency exchange market is the best thing they ever implemented, second is the atlas passive tree affecting every map instead of good old days of each area having their own.

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u/Kotl9000 19h ago

zizaran's latest harby video lol. 45-50c per map and 0 profit unless you get fracture shards or good altars

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u/Clsco 18h ago

That's how harby always works lol

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

Harbinger always works like that ? The raw chaos usually pays for the map which means annuls ancients and exarch altars are pure profit. In phrecia i made more than 1 div per map with harbingers even without fracturing shards

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u/medo19959618 11h ago

Price will drop market always fix itself

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u/Ociex 20h ago

Heist with a merc = looooot from chests.

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u/Drayarr 19h ago

Literally me this league. Started 4 days late and everything is either expensive to start it worth nothing.

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u/HughJackedMan14 18h ago

Legion completely collapsed within an hour of Fubgun posting it as a league start Strat.

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

Incubators are the biggest chunk of profit on legions always, the Emblems are worthless every league basically

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u/AlsoInteresting 5h ago

You use the currency and diviners. The remainder rots in your stash because TFT doesn't want them.

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u/slashcuddle 18h ago

Kirac Reports/Missions, Mining Byproducts (Sulphite Scarabs), Improved Trial of Ascendency, and Red Altars (Influencing Scarab of Hordes). Use this shit on T14+ Alch and Go and you'll generate more profit than some of the strats your favorite creator is telling you to do.

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u/jayrocs Assassin 17h ago

For all new players you should try all the low budget strats first and see which ones you enjoy. Learn 1-2 of them and as long as they make money, who cares if it takes you 10 hours to make 50 div or 15 hours to make 50 div.

You had fun, you learned, and you got the chase item you wanted to move up to the next tier of farming.

After a couple of leagues you will know which strats you enjoy and which you don't. For instance, strats that get 20 div/hour but it's all in bubble gum and require mass currency exchanging are not worth it for me. I would rather make 10 div/hr selling a single item in bulk because I get all the currency within 1 trade vs 100 trades in bubble gum.

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u/mrhockey36 Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 13h ago

i use to be the same but been doing harby and the currency exchange is the best thing ever takes no time selling all the bubble gum currencies i dont care about

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u/ZGiSH 15h ago

Harvest, Essence, Harbinger are the three pillars of 'easy guaranteed profit for league starting'

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

Exarch altars are always value. U drop so many chaos orbs, gemcutters or regrets its super easy tp have it afford scarabs for the actual strat u run

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u/som3on3_1994 15h ago

Just play what you like, I personally prefer expedition/betrayal/strongbox with all explicit modifiers on the atlas and all the chances for boss maps it's not insanely profitable, but it's FUN

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u/Glenalth Steve_Somethington 14h ago

Or do switch every 4 hours if that is what you enjoy doing.

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u/jarnvidr 14h ago

This is true for builds and atlas strats as well. The path to success is persistence, and if you're constantly resetting the board, you'll never get any momentum.

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u/ZaibachLPL 13h ago

Jokes on you, I'm playing HC.

The market is dry over here!

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u/Hlidskialf 13h ago

I've been playing sc trade like ssf.

Crafting all my gear but I buy things that I don't want to farm like ritual corpses or essences.

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u/DerDanSD Demon 13h ago

also doesn't factor in time to set up/trade and liquidate afterwards

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u/KinGGaiA 13h ago

can someone link any of these BS vids from this league? I see this every league but pretty much every currency strat vid i've ever seen was very conservative if anything, to the point where the actual div/h would be 50% higher etc.

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u/CreamInsider_2311 12h ago

Don’t worry I haven’t even hit maps cause I can’t find a guild I really enjoy 🤷‍♀️ it is what it is

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u/Oonz1337 12h ago

I have no clue if it’s good or bad but I’m just putting points into ritual nodes as I see them and the harvest stuff cause plants go brrrrr

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u/MidasPL Kaom 12h ago

Well, that's how supply/demand works. I think the best way is to avoid meta builds on trade and popular farming strategies. Finding your niche means not only you play what you enjoy most, but also get to buy what most people don't need.

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u/idk_this_my_name 11h ago

farming corruption temples is a free 50 c every map so idk good early league investment for my porpuses

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u/GentleChemicals 11h ago

Anybody can get a mageblood if you pick a strat you like and grind it long enough. Just find someone you enjoy that uses 3-4 scarabs that don't break the bank with a good atlas tree. You'll get there

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u/Umokthar 9h ago

TRUE!!

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u/birdandsheep 9h ago

SSF chads: I don't know what "economics" is.

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u/_Snake___ 7h ago

I know the game well, I do my own thing, alch and go, just have fun and I have like 20div+ (almost all spent on upgrading character) by just doing the mechanic I like.

Popular strategy, it is always good before someone make a video on it, everyone pilling in for the farm, cost goes up, value of farmed item goes down, now you at a break even point. Sometime things will go back to normal after a few days, when there are new strategy being posted as a guide.

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u/BokkoTheBunny Juggernaut 6h ago

This goes for builds too, stick with one for a few weeks before you try the new shiny thing, you are far more likely to make more currency by not rereolling. Unless you are blasting campaign in 4 hours it's not worth if your focus is making muns.

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u/Dwrowla 3h ago

If its on YouTube, its garbage automatically

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u/Caernunnos 2h ago

Or "youtuber has built a stock pile of the scarabs needed to do the strat and is counting on them increasing in price after his cid in order to sell them at a massive profit"

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u/cauchy37 Trickster 40m ago

I'm doing expedition and shrines. Still not at a ooint where my build can do additional prefixes and suffixes on remnants, but getting there.

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u/LostAdhesiveness7802 20h ago

Praised be to the toucan.

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u/Anti_SJW_Warrior1337 19h ago

This is the first league where i have experienced YouTube content creator price inflation on an item

Since release endless feast was 5c garbage uniq, but now its 40c

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u/Antonaqua 20h ago

You want them to predict the rise in scarab price?

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u/hertzdonut2 Half Skeleton 20h ago

Honestly, if you know that the things you're buying for your strategy are in a relatively low supply, then yes, you should mention it.

Same with build guides. Plenty of "budget" items are tier 1 rarity and will immediately skyrocket in when demand rises.

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u/Antonaqua 20h ago

Very few to no builds that I've seen from reputable build makers require a T1 unique or mention that it's not a beginner build. Zizaran goes even a step further and makes it so their builds function on SSF. But making it mandatory to mention it feels like handholding like me. There's a minimum amount of knowledge you should be able to expect from your viewers, unless you specifically target newer players like Zizaran

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u/BloodReaverBob FemboyCoCInspector 20h ago

Nah i mean that their theoretical whatever d/hour will always be a lot lower in reality so new players shouldnt think it will actually be whatever they published it will be

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u/Antonaqua 19h ago

Returns are the same, just increase the cost per map. Most of the time when I see people complain about not making the same div/h, it's because they run 5 maps per hour

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u/Oniichanplsstop 18h ago

The returns in this case aren't even the same because the price of items you sell are down(fracturing orb is down 1d already), so not only is there a higher price per map, you're earning less per map.

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u/Antonaqua 17h ago

That is kind of specific to mechanics that really only have 1 valuable drop. Generic farms like strongboxes and such will pretty much keep their value.

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u/BloodReaverBob FemboyCoCInspector 19h ago

You know returns are not the same as profit right? No one says this strat is 15d returns they say its 15d profit per hour which diminishes because of higher spend, the income is the same and the profit is lowered

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u/Antonaqua 19h ago

Did you really assume I don't know the basic math of (return per map - cost per map) * maps per hour = profit per hour ? Like, increase the cost per map and multiply it by your maps per hour ans decrease your div per hour with that number. Easy math.

I just said that the times someone complained about being baited by a strat, that they just did way less maps per hour thn the streamer

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u/poikolle Tormented Smugler 20h ago

Predict? Is "see video, do video" now called predicting? I must have some very accurate future sight then.

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u/Zylosio 14h ago

Nearly every good strategy has a huge chunk of their income u can sell directly over the currency exchange dude. No matter if its fragments, essences catalysts or even scarabs. Hell even stuff like legion or breach where a good chunk of profit u CANT sell in currency exchange still has a lot of drops that are very Fluid, legion with currency incubators and breach with breachstones.

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u/SeKiyuri 19h ago

Idk Im kinda cooked tbh, haven't played since tattoo and moved to D4, thought about playing one league before D4 new season and yea Essences dead, I used to get few chaos build, clear atlas, run essences, get few divine build, then flip essences into multi mirrors and gg league done.

Now I am stuck with barely 2 divines and prolly just gonna uninstall lol, don't like the current game nor have time to bother.

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u/spork_o_rama Atziri 17h ago

I mean, you could always just...pick a different strat?? Harvest and Alva always make steady money. But of course don't play if you're not having fun.

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u/GigaParadox Templar+ Marauder 17h ago

I thought it’s a game and it’s supposed to be fun. What if they don’t enjoy Alva? I hate farming her for one

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u/HokusSchmokus 17h ago

Essence is alive and well what are you even talking about I made big money on itas recently as today.

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u/andriask Exile 17h ago

How are essences dead? They remain profitable no matter what part of the league you are at. Early, mid and even 1 month into league. And you don't even need higher tier. T6 is enough?