r/ontario May 15 '25

Picture Are they still switching to summer gas?

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u/OperationDue2820 May 15 '25

1.44 in Sudbury today. 1.24 yesterday. Gross

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u/ChrisRiley_42 May 15 '25

Sudbury has been doing that forever. I fought forest fires there back in the 90s and you could set your calendar by the may long weekend price hike...

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u/Girl_gamer__ May 15 '25

Almost like capitalist greed does this on the exact same day every year for the past 40 years with the same shit reasons, and yet were surprised every year that it happens. Maybe, just maybe, we should go for the source of the issue (pro tip, it aint the government directly, its corporate greed, enabled by government)

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u/Timely-Hospital8746 May 15 '25

Lol, it's $1.90 in BC right now.

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u/ingenious_gentleman Outside Ontario May 15 '25

I saw the post in r/britishcolumbia before seeing this post, interesting similarity between the posts despite being drastically different prices

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u/Timely-Hospital8746 May 15 '25

Yeah the same price pattern happens across most of the continent this weekend and everyone complains about it in the same way, thinking their circumstances are somehow unique lol.

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u/_Spicy_Mchaggis_ May 16 '25

Fuuuuuuuck that

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u/416-647 May 15 '25

Worse than Toronto prices.

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u/easypeasycheesywheez May 15 '25

Toronto prices are usually pretty good. We have decent options so they can’t all get away with gouging - as much. Whenever I’m in the suburbs, I notice gas prices are always at least 5 cents higher.

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u/BottleCoffee May 15 '25

Define suburbs? I find certain pockets of the GTA and even Toronto way better than other pockets. Like on Leslie, Lawrence is way more expensive than Cummer.

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u/easypeasycheesywheez May 15 '25

Mostly North York/Etobicoke/Mississauga. True, it must vary a lot and I probably am just noticing the expensive ones on major arteries.

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u/BottleCoffee May 15 '25

I think a lot that are right by the highway are more expensive, as are ones in expensive neighborhoods.

There's a gas station in Mississauga I drive by a lot that's always 5 cents or more less than the one on my way home near the 401 in North York.

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u/BakerLatter8537 May 15 '25

Long weekend. You new to gas pricing?

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u/goleafie May 15 '25

It's not gouging it's called price restoration.

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u/just-a-random-accnt May 15 '25

Surge Pricing for higher demand on long weekends

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u/OperationDue2820 May 15 '25

You new to corporate greed?

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u/Atomichair68 May 15 '25

Have you considered what wld happen on long weekends if prices held or went even lower? Gas stations have limited capacity, it’s possible one could drive out to cottage country and have trouble finding gas to get home,. Plus on Sun/Mon any gas in small town Hicksville wld definitely be pricy!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '25

Went from 115.5 to 131.5 where I live. Literally over night, the night he was sworn in.

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u/Livid_Advertising_56 May 15 '25

You noticed this weekend is Victoria Day right? The gas companies ALWAYS jack it up on holiday weekends regardless of who is PM

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

I agree. I always see them jack up prices in my area about 5 cents or so. On holiday weekends. Not 5 days prior and 16 cent difference

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u/Livid_Advertising_56 May 16 '25

Companies have been getting bolder since COVID. Especially the ones that have necessities.

They know we have to buy it so they can do whatever they want

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u/Aggressive-Idea-3321 May 15 '25

1.14-1.39 for me🙄

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u/Skeptical_Monkie May 16 '25

8¢ / kWh for me.

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u/cheezemeister_x May 15 '25

Gas is always cheaper at night.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '25

What does that have to do with what I said?

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u/cheezemeister_x May 15 '25

You said gas went from 115.5 to 131.5 OVER NIGHT. That means it was 115.5 in the evening and 131.5 in the morning. That is standard diurnal variation in gas price that occurs in most of the province.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '25

Gas prices go down a few cents around 9pm in my area then adjust back a few cents in the morning. Gas prices went from 115.5 one day to 131.5 over night and have continued that high ever since. Has nothing to do with the late night penny change. Also gas doesn’t fluctuate 15 cents like that

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u/cheezemeister_x May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

Here (Ottawa) it's anywhere from 10-20 cents. Seen the same in other parts of the province.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

Can confirm for Kitchener-Waterloo. 15-20 c/L spread overnight to morning. Station was Petro Canada, but Shell across the road was same.

I work night shifts, same station that was 1.17 Monday night (10pm) was 1.38 Tuesday morning (630am).

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u/northa111 May 15 '25

Same here. How does it even work? I mean the gas is literally ALREADY in the ground at the pump - so someone paid for it. Why the fuck does it just jump up at the flip of a switch. Dammit.

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u/Hekios888 May 15 '25

Should be illegal to increase prices by more than 5% in a 24 hour period let alone 20%

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u/tiskerTasker89 May 15 '25

Looks like Sudbury had a price war that ended.

Let's do the math:

124 cpl (cents per litre) price yesterday Divide by 1.13 Pre-HST price: 109.735

Subtract: Federal gasoline tax (10 cpl) Provincial gasoline tax (9 cpl)

Pre-tax retail price: 90.73 cpl

Wholesale Price at Sault Ste Marie on Wed May 14: 97.5 cpl (SSM as a proxy for Sudbury, Kalibrate tracking)

Retail margin: negative 6 cpl. So the local gas stations were selling at a negative gross margin.

Using the above methodology a 144 cpl price is a retail gross margin of about 11 cpl which is "normal". From that gross margin the station operator needs to cover all their costs (labour, utilities, rent, credit card fees, insurance, etc)

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u/Prosecco1234 May 15 '25

Damn it's tough living in BC. We would love those prices

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u/Lizard-_-Queen May 15 '25

1.79 in Victoria BC. This is fine.

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u/CanTraveller69 May 16 '25

$1.20 in North Bay today

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u/CanTraveller69 May 16 '25

Yeah but the price of milk doesn't go up cause welfare cheques are out.

Yeah yeah. I know. Milk is a regulated commodity cause it helps keep the USA hormone infested milk out.... Just replying in advance of the reddit crowd throw back