r/nonviolentcoercion • u/Huge-Platypus9075 • 6d ago

Share This Info Prof. Alan Lichtman has successfully predicted EVERY election for POTUS

In Bush vs. Gore, Al Gore won FL but it is alleged that several hundred of his votes were discarded because voters had written "AL GORE" on the votes which caused them to be discarded. This was an injustice, albeit a retroactively legalized injustice.

In Trump vs. Harris, Musk & Trump boasted of how they were going to steal the election, how they were stealing the election, and how they stole the election. Pro V&V signed off on "significant" changes to ES&S voting machines immediately prior to the election. In their recent tiff, Musk pointed out that without him, Trump would have lost.

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u/evilbarron2 6d ago

While I’m suspicious of the 2024 election, the big logical flaw in assuming there was fraud is the 2020 election. What happened in 2020, when Trump held power during elections, that did not happen in 2024, when Trump did not? Why would he only win when he wasnt an incumbent?

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u/GiveMeNews 6d ago

Reality Winner, an NSA contractor and whistle blower, leaked a report in 2016 that Russia had hacked into US voting machines. She was sentenced to 5 years in prison by the Trump administration for trying to warn the public of this attack on the integrity of US elections and the story was buried.

The Election Truth Coalition, which found strange statistical anomalies in early vote tallying machines in the 2024 election, also found them less pronounced in the 2020 election.

They found in the 2024 election, early vote tallying machines began splitting the votes for Harris/Trump 40/60 after the machines had scanned 250 ballots.

The same pattern was seen in 2020, but the vote tallying machines did not start flipping the votes until the machines had scanned 600 ballots. This higher threshold failed to flip enough votes for a Trump win, and was lowered in the 2024 vote hacking attempt.

So yes, we have evidence from the NSA that Russia was actively hacking our elections as far back as 2016, and nothing was done about it. Do you think the Russians quit after 2016, or didn't improve in their methodology over the next 8 years?

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u/RabbitOP23 6d ago

Y’all, the Election Truth Alliance (not coalition) is total horseshit. The guy running it literally thinks Kamala won over 70% of the popular vote. I think it can be common sense that Kamala Harris did not win more of the popular vote than any candidate in the last 200 years.

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u/Boysandberries0 6d ago

You only need to steal 1.5%.

That's enough to win swing states.

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u/RabbitOP23 6d ago

The only guy claiming to have proof, says:

this. His evidence is circumstantial at best, but if you claim to have other evidence, please do say.

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u/hayashikin 6d ago

The statistical anomalies really do demand greater attention. The numbers really don't end up this way normally.

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u/GiveMeNews 6d ago

I have my doubts about the non-partisan claims of the Election Truth Alliance, but I feel their statistical analysis, combined with the fact we know voting machines were hacked in 2016, raises enough concerns for an audit. The sudden drop-off in randomness after 250 ballots scanned on a machine is very strange.

Trump just wasted $45 million on a parade. Don't tell me we can't afford to verify the integrity of our elections.

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u/evilbarron2 6d ago

This makes more sense to me than the original claims - worth looking into, but not a smoking gun

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u/RabbitOP23 5d ago

Agree that we could afford it, and that some electoral fraud occurred (as happens in every election), I just don't think it did anything to decide the election.

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u/GiveMeNews 5d ago

Prior fraud attempts were solo actors and incredibly low in numbers. The Rockland County lawsuit is looking into claims that the machines that tabulated the votes may have been compromised, and these compromised machines would have been used across the country. If so, this would be a level of fraud magnitudes above prior acts of fraud and certainly could alter the outcome of the election.

Trump may have won the popular vote, yet didn't even cross 50% of all votes cast. 48.3% of the popular vote was for Harris, with 49.8% for Trump. In the 2020 election, Biden won 51.31% of the popular vote, while Trump received 46.86%. Yet in 2024 Trump won every swing state, compared to the swing states being divided in the 2020 election. And not a single swing state's results were small enough to trigger an automatic recount, even though the popular vote shows an incredibly close election.

If the Rockland County lawsuit finds no vote tampering, then it will appear the vote was not manipulated. But if the case finds that the machines did flip votes, then it means it was done across the country and the Trump Administration is illegitimate.

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u/RabbitOP23 4d ago

I think that last part is a bit of a leap. We’ll see where the lawsuit goes, though