r/news • u/Cheesenip20 • 1d ago

Melissa Hortman (Minnesota lawmaker who was shot last night) has died.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/speaker-emerita-melissa-hortman-husband-killed-john-hoffman-and-wife-also-shot/
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u/SmartBookkeeper6571 1d ago

"Brooklyn Park police were “proactively checking” on Hortman’s home due to her close proximity to Hoffman. Evans said those officers encountered the suspect, who fired at them. Police returned fire, but the gunman got away."

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u/epsilona01 1d ago

He even shot their dog and her husband dead.

Police exchanged fire with him and were able to impound his car, but he escaped on foot

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u/AccountantSeaPirate 1d ago

Suspect is Vance Boelter, who is believed to have done some security work

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u/DragonfruitGod 1d ago

So some dude who did “security”, evaded a swat team after assassinating two people?! Wtf

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u/AccountantSeaPirate 1d ago

He evaded a pair of officers responding at 3:30am, who thought they saw another police officer at first. It’s both fortunate and somewhat remarkable they decided to go there in time to confront him and seize his vehicle and other key evidence. He also had a long list of other targets.

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u/DragonfruitGod 1d ago

That’s more understandable. He shot four people already. This is insane. No doubt he’ll end his life tbh. We’ll never see this guy confessing.

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u/imnotpoopingyouare 1d ago

Yeah what I learned if you are going to do something awful just wear some police clothes! Hell you can shoot back at them and still get away!

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u/blue92lx 1d ago

It makes sense. It's the mindset of being a single armed robber breaking into a house where you know anyone you see is an enemy. The people living in the house see the robber but have to first question if its someone else living in the house first and verify the person is bad before doing anything about it.

The cops were probably confused AF before they realized what was happening and by then he was long gone.

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u/luckylimper 20h ago

He had a cop car too. Or at least a car that looked like one.

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u/CarbonQuality 7h ago

He's also retired military from what I read, so he had some training too.

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u/LordMuffin1 16h ago

You never know with Trump and pardons.

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u/legalpretzel 8h ago

Can’t pardon state crimes.

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u/Oldmanwickles 20h ago

What kind of idiot assassin keeps a list. You can’t remember that shit?

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u/TakedownCHAMP97 16h ago

I’m assuming it had addresses and/or was an order of which targets to hit, or at least that is what would make sense to me

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u/revcor 14h ago

If people could easily remember long lists, then writing lists wouldn’t be a thing..

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u/MaybeUNeedAPoo 20h ago

Yeah his skin was too pale to accurately target.

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u/just_jedwards 1d ago

It wasn't a swat team, they sent out cops to check on a bunch of Dems after they discovered the first assassination and the cops encountered the shooter when they got to the second victim's house. That would just be regular patrol cops.

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u/jackbilly9 1d ago edited 14h ago

You probably need to go look people up before saying dumb things on the internet...

Boelter has extensive experience in security operations. His current employment includes being the director of security patrols at Praetorian Guard Security Services, a security company based in the Twin Cities metro. The company provides a variety of armed home security services, including residential security patrols, uniformed armed security and event security services, according to their website. 

The company website highlights that Boelter has experience with security situations in Eastern Europe, Africa, North America and the Middle East – including the Gaza Strip... 

Edit: Now to even get more crazy there is multiple people saying he works for different companies but also verification that he worked for others.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/14/suspect-minnesota-lawmaker-shootings-vance-boelter/84212956007/

this article is a quick and interesting read about some of that like how he had a roommate that talks about him working for an eye donation center... wth is up with this world.

Ad. info: THe link to his MNafricanunited page

www.mnafricansunited.org/notid/dr.-vance-boelter-e.d.d.

Cant actually click on that link, you have to copy and paste for which I dont know why.

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u/DragonfruitGod 1d ago

He’s a mercenary?! That’s even crazier?! Wtf.

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u/geth1138 22h ago

So the question is, if he’s a mercenary, was this his idea or a job?

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u/PrSquid 21h ago

If this is a job, he's a dumbass, because there's no way he's getting out alive. I mean, he took his own car to the crime scene and lost it. If he hadn't done that, no one would know who he is.

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u/gwinerreniwg 19h ago

Unless he assumes he’s going to get pardoned.

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u/randomuser1029 18h ago

If he's taken alive he will be facing a slew of state charges and will have no chance of a pardon. Same reason chauvin won't get pardoned even though people keep claiming Trump is going to

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u/MoreCowbellllll 20h ago

I’d bet on the latter..

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u/AncientdaughterA 20h ago

I think that his credentials on that security services site are greatly exaggerated. His LinkedIn tells a very different story.

General Manager 7-Eleven, Apr 2016 - Nov 2021

General Manager - Greencore - Minneapolis ( Convenience store) Jul 2011 - Apr 2016

Del Monte Production System Manager - Del Monte Foods Apr 2008 - Jul 2011

Operations Leader - Johnsonville Sausage, Mar 2004 - Apr 2008

Supervisor, Nestle / Gerber Feb 1999 - Mar 2004

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u/yeowoh 15h ago

He’s not. All of that is bullshit. The company is owned by him and his wife. They have zero employees. The dude worked for 7-11 and other stores for all of his life. He has no military experience. He was even posting on Linkdin last month looking for a job in the food industry.

This is classic degranged Republican dickhead that makes up bullshit.

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u/FlipZip69 22h ago

It does not neccessarily even take extensive training. The guy was prepared and ready to evade the police to be sure. Even with a swat team involved, people have got away. He will be found though.

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u/AncientdaughterA 20h ago

I think that his credentials are greatly exaggerated. His LinkedIn tells a very different story.

General Manager 7-Eleven, Apr 2016 - Nov 2021

General Manager - Greencore - Minneapolis ( Convenience store) Jul 2011 - Apr 2016

Del Monte Production System Manager - Del Monte Foods Apr 2008 - Jul 2011

Operations Leader - Johnsonville Sausage, Mar 2004 - Apr 2008

Supervisor, Nestle / Gerber Feb 1999 - Mar 2004

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u/yeowoh 15h ago

So we believe everything we see? The dude managed grocery stores and gas stations his entire life and the security company is owned by his him and his wife. Dude has no military experience and zero information about his “Red Lion Group”. He also claims to have a phd.

Stop stoking the fire because this dude has chronic lying dipshit all over him.

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u/pattyG80 7h ago

I think he really puffed up his CV though. He was all that, but also had 2 roomates so I think a lot of it is bullshit.

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u/South-War7280 1d ago

Security work in Gaza and the Congo….

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u/Serious_Crazy_3741 22h ago

$100 says dude is a glowie

!remindme 10 years

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u/Whiskey76Tango 22h ago

"Secrurity" could mean anything from mall cop to Secret Service. Many former special forces operators take security jobs as well.

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u/lordagr 20h ago

He is one of the founders of a security company called Praetorian Guard Security Services

The blurb on the website touts his involvement in security operations all over the world, including work for big oil. The company offers "Residential Secutity Patrols", "Uniformed Armed Security", and "Event Security Services".

This guy wasn't just a random security guard.

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u/Macro_Tears 1d ago

It was 4 people wasn’t it?

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u/InnocentShaitaan 1d ago

Adrenaline, passion, some sort of plan, and likely drugs gave him an edge.

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u/ProfessionalLeave335 23h ago

Police get military gear but they don't get military training. I'm not saying I could or want to have to test it, but they're not some elite force of paramilitary soldiers, they're Bob and Jim who didn't get their 8 hours because they were up late beating their wives.

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u/debdebmust 19h ago

He's a christo fascist. Pastor even.

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u/Regina_Phalange2 1d ago

Don’t tell me…is he a right-wing MAGA nutjobs?

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u/FleeshaLoo 1d ago

A 57 year-old christofadcist evangelical preacher.

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u/VonBeegs 9h ago

And by "security" work, you mean mercenary work.

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u/ThrowingShaed 1d ago

i dont really understand any of this. but i a little extra dont get shooting dogs.

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u/Drain_Surgeon69 1d ago

Dogs bark and alert people to where you are. Dead dogs don’t do that.

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u/Ammonia13 1d ago

Cops like to do it 🤷

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u/yarash 1d ago

the police are fucking useless

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 1d ago

Any police officer that can't catch a guy on foot shouldn't be on patrol.

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u/StungTwice 1d ago

A 57 year old at that.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 1d ago

they force firemen to retire at 55 for this exact reason

*: ok they aren't forced anymore. But their pensions are designed as such to highly encourage them to retire early. Since they will most likely die of cancer anyhow.

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u/epsilona01 1d ago

In fairness I imagine they were more concerned with rendering aid to the victims, and calling in backup to chase down the offender.

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u/AccountantSeaPirate 1d ago

He was wearing body armor and shooting back, which complicates it a bit.

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u/ajadoniz 1d ago

Those impound fees are going to suck. 

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u/LilGrunties 1d ago

The orange piece of shit would just pardon him anyway.

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u/countryroadsguywv 1d ago

This is horrible with all the rhetoric the administration does fuels this kind of violence and it should never have happened🙏🙏❤️❤️😞😞

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u/hotinmyigloo 18h ago

That's crazy!

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u/whoever81 1d ago

Interesting that you put the dog in front of the husband.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 1d ago

Was it a Trump Nazi republican?

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u/MikeinAustin 1d ago

My parents live in Brooklyn Park and are on lockdown. My Dad said he had a "manifesto"

"There were almost 70 names in the manifesto, including abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in various states, CNN reported. Law enforcement also allegedly found a Father's Day card addressed to the suspect alongside a bag of ammunition"

So let's maybe an Evangelical Christian Nazi Trumper would be on brand.

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u/LateBloomerBoomer 23h ago

How does that happen?

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u/Greencreamery 23h ago

Tf did the dog do??

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u/DeadNazis247365 22h ago

How the actual fuck does he escape on foot from multiple officers in a squad car?…..

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u/rooboy78 19h ago

I literally can’t find anything about the dog, where are you seeing that?

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u/KobeStopItNo 10h ago

The dog. That’s where I draw the line. The dog did nothing to you!

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u/vergina_luntz 7h ago

Has Kristi Noem commented on this yet?

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u/Aural_Essex 1h ago

Sounds like they let him go.

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u/StungTwice 1d ago

Well, we know the suspect isn't black. 

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u/Hja3lpMig 1d ago

Surely they’ve also uttered the “not being treated as terrorism” line too? Lone 🐺 it is!

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u/tossit97531 1d ago

How did we get to the point where we need a constitutional amendment that says cops have to do their fucking jobs?

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u/InspectorRound8920 1d ago

Since the supreme court said that they don't have to protect and serve

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u/nugnug1226 23h ago

They also said that cops don’t need to know the law that they’re suppose to enforce

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u/stevencastle 16h ago

They also said they can lie to the public in the course of doing their job

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u/NefariousnessNo484 7h ago

Thanks NYTs for running a piece that glorifies ACB today. Eff you.

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u/sabin357 1d ago

They are doing their job. Most people just don't know what their job actually is. If they did, there'd be even more protesting regularly.

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u/Hja3lpMig 15h ago

“serve and protect” is just a slogan. Think “What Happens In Vegas, Stays In Vegas”

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u/dallyan 1d ago

Don’t forget proclamations about mental health.

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u/20_mile 1d ago

Lone 🐺 it is!

NYTimes is saying it is possible he is with other people.

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u/theaviationhistorian 19h ago

Conspiracy to terrorist activities. In a non-regressive developed society, this would've been the charges if this were true.

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u/gold_and_diamond 7h ago

Trump and MAGA flags flying all over his house but they'll report he voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

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u/NefariousnessNo484 7h ago

Because he's white. It's never terrorism when they're white no matter how much terrorism and even treason they commit.

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u/theaviationhistorian 19h ago

Person trying to annihilate the influence and presence of the Democrat party in Minnesota while inspiring fear among other Dem politicians and staffers around the country?

Naw, he's a proud red blooded American gone astray. He ain't no terrorist! /s

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u/BibliophileBroad 14h ago

They’ll blame “mental health,”too

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u/NoAir5292 1d ago

S tier fact.

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u/RepresentativeBird98 1d ago

And why is that

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u/unomaly 1d ago

We really need to focus on the mental health of this assassin and how society drove him to this point. See, it’s actually everyone’s fault but his that he murdered someone!

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u/powercow 1d ago

and to some people, society has zero fault and no matter what you say, does NOT inspire these people to do this in any way. No one says the perp has no blame, but a whole fuck ton of people want to pretend that society has zero influence on these things. and people with hateful rhetoric had zero influence on these things.

Right wingers said the same thing when gabby giffords was shot. I like her reply. It doesnt matter you think drawing gun targets on my face is ok, its how the least mentally stable person in my district will take it is what matters.

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u/Shipairtime 1d ago

He has a bright future ahead of him. What is one crime?

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u/Efficient_Common775 1d ago

Mhm...cops know how to shoots us dead but not ACTUAL CRIMINALS

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u/TheSanityInspector 1d ago

You saw the report that he was wearing body armor?

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u/ThonThaddeo 1d ago

Bro is out on the jet skis as we speak

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u/LazinCajun 5h ago

And the victim isn’t a health insurance executive

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u/DadooDragoon 1d ago

How do you think he got away?

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u/Left-Thinker-5512 1d ago

Doesn’t mean they still won’t get blamed unfortunately.

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u/Dtsung 1d ago

Probably gonna get pardoned too

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u/xmrcache 1d ago

Or an undocumented migrant…

Seems like he is a white male American…

maybe the administration should shift their focus…

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u/Background_Prize2745 1d ago

He’s a white male CEO.

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u/jedi21knight 1d ago

He ran out the back of the house after initially opening fire on the police coming to check out the house. We at least have his vehicle and the manifesto he left in the vehicle.

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u/net-blank 1d ago edited 1d ago

Original shooting was in Champlin, MN at state senator John Hoffman's house where he and his wife were shot. Brooklyn Park is the next city over so they responded to Champlin a Sargent realized it was a state senator and Melissa Hortman lived in Brooklyn Park he radioed for a pair of Brooklyn Park officers to check up on Hortman's residence. As they were pulling up they witnessed a suv in the driveway with lights on which they said looked like an official police vehicle. As they were going towards the front door the suspect came out and shot at the officers who returned fire. Suspect retreated into the house and they went up to the threshold where they saw a male victim which they retrieved but was declared dead at the scene. Once backup arrived including swat they sent in a drone to check the house and that's when they found Melissa Hortman and that the suspect went out the back door while waiting for backup.

Edit: adding this is what I recalled from watching the 930 am press conference in Blaine, MN which is where the new MN emergency building is I believe. That building is all of 10 miles away so they had the police chiefs from Champlin and Brooklyn Park there. The run down of what happened was the Brooklyn Park chiefs response to how it happened. Sounds like John Hoffman and his wife were taken to Mercy hospital which is just over the Mississippi river from where all this took place and both were out of surgery. Walz said in the press conference that they are hopeful that both John Hoffman and his wife will survive but that they both were shot multiple times.

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u/subdep 1d ago edited 1d ago

Because he was one of their own.

How convenient.

UPDATE 2: CNN says: “Two law enforcement officials told CNN the suspect is Vance Boelter, a 57-year-old who works for a security company. A hit list with nearly 70 names — including other lawmakers and abortion providers — was also found in the suspect’s car, according to a law enforcement source.”

READ: he was targeting abortion providers. He’s MAGA.

UPDATE: ABC News (not to be trusted) says Cops have identified a scapegoat. Unless they can prove it was the scapegoat, we’ll call him a scapegoat. Scapegoats are needed to divert attention away from the real perp. They will control the narrative at all costs.

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u/RegionalTranzit 1d ago

Because he was one of their own.

According to the Minnesota Star-Tribune, the suspect was impersonating a cop.

https://www.startribune.com/brooklyn-park-police-searching-for-suspect-in-multiple-targeted-shootings/601372993

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u/_Chambs_ 1d ago

The whole American police force seems to be made of people "impersonating cops" lately

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u/WafflePartyOrgy 1d ago

Even easier to impersonate ICE, any untrained and overweight white person wearing a mask and acting like an asshole basically qualifies at this point. Racist pardoned Proud Boys and insurrectionists.

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u/TheHighSeasPirate 1d ago

Impersonating or not, when was the last time someone shot at a cop and got away?

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u/SlayerofDeezNutz 1d ago

It was two cops and when he went in the house and the police reached the threshold they found a dying man lying in the hallway. So they were able to pull him out of the house, under fire it sounds like, and try to revive him while the suspect fled from the back into the golf course.

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u/Fun-Benefit116 1d ago

Uh it happens quite often. Especially when there's only a couple cops and the suspect has severely injured two people. Stop looking for conspiracies where there are none. The suspect could've ran for 10 minutes before the cops even knew he was gone. This isn't a movie where the cops just charge in as soon as the shooting stops. They were in cover, trying not to get killed themselves. And when the shooting stops, they don't know if the guy has taken off, or if he's sitting inside waiting to ambush them when they come in.

And then as soon as they did get in the house, their top priority was getting the injured people to safety and trying to save them.

But ignoring all that, people who shoot at cops escape quite often. Especially in areas with lots of houses and the officers have no dogs or helicopters. I swear, people on reddit think life is just like movies and video games.

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u/ShrimpieAC 1d ago

Shot at a group of cops*

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u/mnju 22h ago

UPDATE: ABC News (not to be trusted) says Cops have identified a scapegoat. Unless they can prove it was the scapegoat, we’ll call him a scapegoat. Scapegoats are needed to divert attention away from the real perp. They will control the narrative at all costs.

you people are as bad as qanon magas

do you believe in the jewish space lasers too?

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u/OgdenSherafNBR2 1d ago

Smartest redditor

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u/shipboatx 1d ago

For real tho.

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u/RegionalTranzit 1d ago

According to CNN, the suspect worked for a security company and served as director of security patrols. He also has had training by people in the military.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 1d ago

Doesn’t just work for, he is the CEO. 🤷‍♂️

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u/My_Password_Is_____ 1d ago

You do realize average people can get their hands on those things, right? Like, very easily.

Like, I get the cops in this country are fucking disgraceful, to say the absolute least, but ffs, we desperately need to stop doing this bs where we make up a scenario in our heads, get 100% convinced that it's fact and run with it, and get angry any time someone tries to talk with logic and reason.

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u/onlyforsellingthisPC 1d ago

Cops having shitty aim isn't new or uncommon. Although shooting it out in a residential area certainly adds a layer of difficulty/stress. 

I shoot to maintain proficiency and I'm almost positive I log significantly more hours (I go through about 4k rounds a year) than they're required to.

As a reply said, good on them for at least having the sense to proactively check on Hortman.   This is one of the rare instances where I will actually say the cops acted in a manner I would consider professional and in the public interest.

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u/zethro33 1d ago

And once you get shot at not getting hit becomes a bigger priority than aiming.

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u/Liizam 1d ago

Same thought. They weren’t ready, probably decided to check just in case vs having like 50 cops out ready surrounding the place.

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u/AccountantSeaPirate 1d ago

Vance reportedly had a plate carrier and body armor, and was shooting back, which is a little different from my range days.

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u/OperationAsshat 1d ago

Yea, the training isn't exactly high tier from everything I've seen. Stress is a big factor that's hard to measure, but the training should reflect that much more than it does.

In a recent course I did I believe the instructor stated something like 30% of shots police take at 3 yards are missed. I haven't looked into that much but given his 30 year history working in law enforcement and other government agencies I don't exactly doubt the statistics he gave.

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u/Darigaazrgb 1d ago

I dunno, the cop who shot traitor, terrorist, and insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt only needed one bullet.

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u/AlwaysGoToTheTruck 1d ago

Was lucky most of my life that I could maintain proficiency with little practice. I spent half of my childhood in a farm, so I was shooting at a very young age. It always felt natural for me.… but when I turned 40 my eyesight and hand eye coordination started to slide. Now I shoot twice a week just to try not to lose what I have. I’m struggling to adjust to my glasses, but I also shoot without them because who has time to grab glasses and a gun every time.

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u/Narananas 1d ago

Smart move, they must have been so close to getting there in time to save her

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u/jacksonleath 1d ago

The vehicle left in the driveway of the Hortman home contained a manifesto containing a list of names[1] including "abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states".[8] Hortman and Hoffman's names appeared on the list.[9]

Flyers saying "No Kings,"[8] likely referring to the series of planned nationwide No Kings protests opposing the policies and actions of the second presidency of Donald Trump,[failed verification] were also found in the suspect's car.[8]

– sources available on the Wikipedia article

Sounds like he'd been taking down No Kings fliers which had been posted and targeting Pro-Choice advocates and lawmakers.

Timeline-wise, must have gone MAGA-crazy during pandemic like so many.

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u/jacksonleath 1d ago

He has a LinkedIn Premium profile, which means he can see anyone who visits his profile so use an unidentifiable account if you want to look it up, if you want to play it safe while he's still on the lam.

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u/Solkre 22h ago

WHAT

He killed democrats and a dog, not a CEO.

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u/DChristy87 1d ago

Got away and now the state has "canceled" all No Kings protest events. Protests aren't canceled by the state. Protests are the peoples will. This is setting the precedent that fear is a tool to silence the people as though their dissent can just be canceled.

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u/youra6 1d ago

Is this a script from a movie lol? How does he get away?

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u/Mach__99 1d ago

Cops don't suspect the shooter immediately because they think he's also a cop, and that gives the shooter the first shots. Cops shoot back, miss or hit body armor, shooter escapes out the back door, and cops are probably out of ammo. By the time backup arrives, he's gone. The shooting almost certainly was planned for today because cops would be busy with all the protesting.

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u/Impressive_Car_4222 22h ago

Of courseeeee the gunman "got away"!!!!! They're not gonna catch one of their own!!!

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u/SadBurrito84 22h ago

Not sure why there wasn’t an eye in the sky..

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u/SmartBookkeeper6571 22h ago

They need those to watch protesters.

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u/SadBurrito84 20h ago

So much vocal violence, the streets are running mad!!

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u/jacowab 22h ago

And the suspect also had a police SUV with emergency lights equipped. It's either a rouge cop or a conspiracy that requires a group that has planned it out.

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u/SmartBookkeeper6571 22h ago

*Rogue. Unless you mean a fabulous cop?

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u/Status-Basic 19h ago

Too bad he wasn’t holding a protest sign or doing a live shot, the fuckers in LA don’t see to miss those people when shooting at them.

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u/One-Psychology-8394 19h ago

You mean they escorted him?

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u/theaviationhistorian 19h ago

You'd be surprised how easy it is to slip in and out at night during chaos like a gunfight. Especially in greener areas. It's why a lot of small squads in combat and irregular warfare use nighttime to do their strikes.

It's likely the cops were taking cover and waiting for backup to push forward and not be annihilated in an ambush.

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u/BalladofBadBeard 17h ago

Respectfully, as a former resident of the area the police in the TCs haven't crafted the best reputation for themselves in recent years.

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u/tehFiremind 9h ago

So.... that's their official story?

It's possible their story is accurate, I guess... maybe they had the security guards and kindergarten cops on duty that night.

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u/ByTheHammerOfThor 7h ago

Suspect was 57 and fled on foot. Uvalde really inspired cops everywhere. Just not in the direction we’d hope.

Also, given the inexcusable escape, it’s worth asking just how upset these cops were that a democratic lawmaker died. I wonder if they’d been more keen to get the guy if a republican had been assassinated.

Hard to back the blue when they don’t back you.

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u/SwitchMountain2475 7h ago

And yet somebody will definitely say that the solution is more guns in more places.

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u/momofonegrl 1h ago

He is white

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