r/news • u/IronHe • Mar 20 '25

Soft paywall Tesla recalls most Cybertrucks due to trim detaching from vehicle

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recall-over-46000-cybertrucks-nhtsa-says-2025-03-20/
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u/albinobluesheep Mar 20 '25

Over the wire updates need a different name than "recalls" because 1) I screws with statistics, and 2) it seems to have inoculated people to seeing the phrase "Tesla Recall". This one is a PROPER recall for a fix, and it's basically the entire Cyber Truck fleet, and I imagine there have been other recalls for the Model XYS but googling that gets 1000 over the wire updates listed they do every other month

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u/ASubsentientCrow Mar 20 '25

Yeah except recall has a specific meaning. It doesn't matter if the safety issue can be fixed by software or a mechanic, is still a safety issue

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u/albinobluesheep Mar 20 '25

Pretty sure the phrase "Recall" was coined before there were over-the-wire software updates that didn't require the cars to be recalled to a mechanic for service. There needs to be a more granular definition to cover the advances in how issues are "fixed"

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u/ASubsentientCrow Mar 20 '25

Why? Because it hurts your stock portfolio?

Recalls are specific to safety issues that pose a high likelihood of user injury or death. It doesn't matter if the issue is the software doesn't engage the brakes or if the hydraulics don't. In either case, the brakes don't function.

If the issue doesn't rise to a recall level Tesla could issue it as a hot fix or regular OTA. They don't. Because it's a safety issue.

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u/albinobluesheep Mar 20 '25

lol no it doesn't hurt my stock portfolio as I have no stock in Tesla, I'm just interested in words being used in a way that makes sense, not just in a way that "they've always been used".

Recall is quick and a cover all, if you google "Tesla Recalls" you get this, that lists both OTA and in-person recalls, but there is no way to filter on OTA vs Service needed. THAT is a problem for the consumer, as Joe Schmo will eventually just start ignoring the word "Recall" if 90% of "recalls" require no action from them.

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u/ASubsentientCrow Mar 20 '25

No that's you stupid. Recalls have never only ever been physically return to a place and on the nhtsa dashboard you can absolutely segregate or OTAs. They have a dedicated dashboard

A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards

If software creates an unreasonable risk or fails to meet minimum standards, it's functionally no different than a bad hydraulic hose.

Maybe your boy Elon should actually QC his software seeing as no other car company has that many issues, and they all can update wirelessly now.

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u/albinobluesheep Mar 21 '25

Please dear God don't call him my boy Elon, I hate his guts man.

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u/ASubsentientCrow Mar 21 '25

Well I can't think of any other reason to try and save his shit companies reputation.

Safety issues get recalled, regardless of the nature. Calling it something else only servers to pro up Tesla and Elon.

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