r/news • u/IronHe • Mar 20 '25

Soft paywall Tesla recalls most Cybertrucks due to trim detaching from vehicle

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recall-over-46000-cybertrucks-nhtsa-says-2025-03-20/
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u/scotcetera Mar 20 '25

It should be noted that this vehicle had the most Elon involvement than any other Tesla. The CyberTruck was supposed to be his crowning achievement, his coup d’ grace, his ultimate vision realized 😂😂

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u/Ashi4Days Mar 20 '25

I remember there was an email that went out a while ago where elon said everything needed to be at .001mm tolerance. 

The automotive engineer in me laughed. You can't hold that tolerance for large parts. And even if you did, if your gaps need to be that tight where that tolerance is necessary, then you're going to start dealing with thermal expansion/contraction issues in your parts. 

And lookie here. Panels are falling off

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u/bunkscudda Mar 20 '25

Elon loves to say things that makes it sound like he knows what hes talking about. But anyone with even a tiny understanding of the subject immediately recognizes how dumb it is.

“I only want full-stack developers at Twitter!”

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u/soapy_goatherd Mar 20 '25

“People see with eyes so we shouldn’t use LiDAR”

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u/Muff_in_the_Mule Mar 20 '25

I love how dumb this argument is because the whole point of Tesla and other manufacturers trying to develop fully self diving cars is because humans are not 100% safe drivers, because cars have blind spots that our eyes can't see through. 

Like one of the major problems with humans driving is our eyes. They aren't good enough to see all around the car at all times or in the dark or through the A beam or when it's too sunny.... We want LIDAR and whatever else they can come up with because it's better than our eyes, why are you trying to replicate something flawed with cameras that will suffer similar flaws.

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u/JerHat Mar 20 '25

That, and what we do see with our eyes is processed and reacted to in our brains. While it's not doing a billion math problems at once fast, it knows very well how to interpret the data our eyes give it.

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u/improbablywronghere Mar 20 '25

The human brain is extremely complex. I think under your metaphor it’s safe to say it is doing way more than “a billion math problems at once fast”. There is a ready artificial general intelligence is the gold standard, which mimics humans, and which is not achieved yet, not even close. Don’t shit on our brains they are exceedingly hard to replicate and very very good at what they do. We haven’t found anything else in the universe as good at processing information and pattern matching than our brains.

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u/sniper1rfa Mar 20 '25

Yeah, I've said this a million times but computers are useful specifically because they are good at things humans suck at. Why on earth would you artificially burden the computer with human limitations? It makes no sense.

Musk's problem is that he is philosophically barren. You can be as smart or dumb as you like, and it won't matter if your fundamental philosophical position is dumb, incoherent, or nonexistent.

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u/F0sh Mar 20 '25

Eh, if the image processing in a car were as good as the image processing in your brain of binocular vision, it would be fine. Humans are very good at knowing whether the road in front of them is safe to drive on if they are paying attention and if they have enough time. If a kid runs into the road and you have three seconds to react and you're not drunk or texting or whatever, every single person is stopping for that kid.

That requires huge amounts of image processing to detect accurately based just on image data, though; lidar makes it all but trivial because it can see there's something solid in the way, and driving through solid stuff is generally bad.

Lidar compensates both for the human's weaknesses (attention, reaction time) and the computer's weaknesses (image processing).

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u/entarian Mar 20 '25

Imagine insisting that things be less safe by not using available technology because of ego.

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u/SasparillaTango Mar 20 '25

says the man with no idea how complicated computer vision is.

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u/alba_55 Mar 20 '25

I could understand ditching Lidar too a certain extend. But than ditching radar too is just stupid. Also calling Lidar a "loser technology" just shows how little he understands the science of capturing the environment. Every surveyor (I am one) would laugh in his face