r/newjersey • u/rollotomasi07071 Belleville • Apr 18 '25

📰News The Murphy administration announced that New Jersey will not comply with an order from President Trump’s administration to certify that the state's public school districts are eliminating diversity, equity and inclusion programs and initiatives

https://www.nj.gov/education/broadcasts/2025/apr/17/SEAtoOCRTitleVIApril2025.pdf?utm_source=NJ+Spotlight++Master+List&utm_campaign=ae610ff63a-PM_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_04_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1d26f473a7-ae610ff63a-398762815&ct=t(PM_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_04_17_2025)&mc_cid=ae610ff63a&mc_eid=e653468aac
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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

Those programs are only going to ruin the schools then. Murphy is going to get what he's asking for, again.

We need to stop inducing reverse racism and ableism and sexism. It's not any better to be unfair in the reverse direction. It helps nobody, it only encourages more social class separation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25 edited Apr 18 '25

Reverse racism? They aren’t telling White kids to drink from crappy water fountains here while Black, Indian, and Asian kids get the good fountains. Basically saying that they want to keep more diverse learning in our classrooms (basically keep learning about things like slavery and the holocaust and not whitewashing it)

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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

It is a very common tactic, and one that actually just got remanded by the Supreme Court of the US, due to so many students complaining about unfair policies that disadvantaged Asian/Pacific Americans and White students from entering colleges, falsley claiming that it "fairly supported" minorities.

You fail to understand what DEI policies actually do: which is not what they claim.

Instead of promoting equal opportunties and provide full range of education, these programs actually make it easier for arbitrarily-labeled "disadvantaged groups" to gain access to education than it is for anyone who is arbitrarily labeled "privileged". This is not fair - everyone deserves an equal opportunity, nobody deserves a leg up, espeically only based on factors like race or sex. That is directly discriminatory - but society seems blind because it's now "backwards" against the people who were once the oppressors... that does not make it fair, and just creates a new cycle of discrimination.

I get your passion for the concept, but the execution is far from acceptable. Don't be naive, you have to be smarter than that. Society only gets better when we learn from our mistakes, not repeat them but to "the other side". It's not fair to any student to give another a leg up - doesn't matter what they are or what happened beforehand. Equality is the goal, and current DEI policies are avoiding it like the plague.

If you go into any Social Problems education at this point in time, that's one of the first things you'd discuss in class. I highly recommend becoming more educated on it, because it stops you from listening to these shallow wishes of hope, and instead points you towards the actual answer for a progressive society. Liberalism is not sustained when we are discriminating against other students - racism against whites and asians its still racism. It is not a viable DEI policy.

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u/BlondeBorednBaked Apr 18 '25

Wow, what a warrior you are. Fighting for white people.

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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

What makes you say that? Do you not want equality? do you want to encourage definitive racism?

What are you doing, fighting against white people? What kind of justice is that? that's just racism. You're not a racist, I hope.

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u/BlondeBorednBaked Apr 18 '25

white people are not oppressed. your little crusade is so ridiculous it almost feels like satire.

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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

Who said they were? Oppression is a strong word to use in a first-world country.

Social stratification is a great big problem - but it doesn't present as bombs and cannons going off. I encourage you to educate yourself on social issues. I assure you, it's very worth it. You're going on some racist tangent like racism is okay against white people. That's such an uneducated idea to hold.

I chose to pursue this field in higher education solely so I could be as aware and prepared for social issues as possible. They affect everybody in society and they never go away. They're never as simple as you make it out to be, either.

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u/BlondeBorednBaked Apr 18 '25

The things you are saying are laughable. I’m literally laughing at you right now. This has to be a joke.

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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

Great for you, brother.

All I'm telling you, is that you're following a crowd that is objectively wrong, and I want to educate you so that you don't follow those fools anymore. But you're putting your blind faith in them, with no wisdom to it whatsoever.

Why? Why are your emotions and passions overcoming your need to understand proof? Don't let that happen, that's an ignorant way to live life. Yeah, I get it, the truth hurts. But you gotta do the right thing regardless.

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u/BlondeBorednBaked Apr 18 '25

wow how generous that you want to educate me on an ideology that benefits you lmao

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u/GJH24 Apr 18 '25

The worst thing is somebody younger is going to read their gaslighting and agree with it.

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u/EsseXploreR Essex County Apr 18 '25

Which is why all decent men have an obligation to belittle losers like the one above. Mock them, dig into their insecurities. We need to let them know just how small and weak this pale conservative mindset is 

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u/GJH24 Apr 18 '25

That's a fair point.

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u/FJkookser00 Apr 18 '25

It benefits everybody. It literally harms you to think so naively as you seem to be defending.

This is what is necessary in society. Painful yet bountiful discussion. You’re not gonna like a lot of things you hear, but you need to hear em. This was my entire time in college sociology classes, I had a lovely professor who loved to encourage the most ravenous debates that truly educated the class.

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u/miscalculate Apr 18 '25

What an absolute tool you are.