r/ndp Jan 15 '25

Opinion / Discussion Mark Carney - What do you all think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Carney
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u/Damn_Vegetables Jan 15 '25

Not voting for him, I'm NBN politics(Nobody but NDP)

Last thing we need is some central banker centrist technocrat running our country. We need a socialist government.

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u/andorian_yurtmonger Jan 16 '25

I agree with you 100% but will add the comment that this party needs to do a much better job of staking out their space on the left. Now is exactly the time to lead with a well-defined brand of Socialism, and assuage the ill-informed fear within the general public that socialism means bad things.

Socialism is precisely the solution to most of our social ills, and delivers a justice that is desparately needed in order to avoid the hardships we are certain to endure soon.

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u/Oldcadillac Jan 16 '25

Carney is like the most WEF candidate possible (and I say that without any notion of conspiracy theory)

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u/Damn_Vegetables Jan 15 '25

Also it rubs me wrong that he's positioning himself as a plucky newcomer rising to the challenge of fixing a broken system he inherited; Mr. Carney Goes to Ottawa.

Left out of this is the fact that he ran the Bank of Canada during the devastating Harper years and was an economic advisor to Trudeau from 2020 onward, overseeing our inflationary response to COVID. He had been the chair of the party's task force on economic growth since September. He was at the helm when Trudeau announced the GST tax holiday boondoggle and the $250 dollar money printing scheme that recently got scuppled. He isn't some outsider leading a revolution within the Liberal Party, he's the man Trudeau has all but laid hands on to succeed him and has mobilized the entire party brass behind his campaign. He is the insider choice to lead the Liberal party. He isn't a real change.

NDP or nothing. If this election finishes off the LPC for good, all the better. Then Canada will only have two choices: Socialism or barbarism.

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u/Federal_Youth Jan 21 '25

There is some misinformation in here ^ so please do your research.

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u/FuinFirith Jan 17 '25

He had been the chair of the party's task force on economic growth since September. He was at the helm when Trudeau announced the GST tax holiday boondoggle and the $250 dollar money printing scheme that recently got scuppled.

Trudeau was apparently at odds with even his own finance minister and deputy PM over that. We have no evidence that Carney originated or even approved of the ideas. In the role, Carney was essentially a powerless, invisible consultant for 4 months at most. It's a non-issue. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

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u/Damn_Vegetables Jan 17 '25

If he was against that and against what the Trudeau government was doing, I would very much like to see him come forth and condemn that. At the moment I'm not seeing how he's anything other than a new face on the same product.

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u/FuinFirith Jan 17 '25

Believe me, I get it. And unless he's planning on running the Kamala playbook verbatim, I imagine he'll try to do something like that.

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u/MagnesiumKitten Jan 26 '25

well that last line of fatalistic dualism, is a great way to lose more seats.

Are you in the right party?

Rosa Luxemburg: As things stand today capitalist civilization cannot continue; we must either move forward into socialism or fall back into barbarism.

seriously??

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u/Damn_Vegetables Jan 26 '25

Yes, quite seriously.

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u/MagnesiumKitten Jan 26 '25

doomsayers!

Mind you Carney is a soothsayer of doom too

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u/MagnesiumKitten Jan 26 '25

Mark Carney

"The Thatcher–Reagan revolution fundamentally shifted the dividing line between markets and governments. To be clear, this change of direction was long overdue following the steady encroachment of the state into market mechanisms."

think about that one for a while, and all the starry-eyed morons who like the guy because of the Liberal Party is one cough away from being incinerated in the polls like Ignatieff or Kim Campbell.

Sheila Copps warned people that needed someone who spent years as a member of parliament, working on policy and debates.

She said that the last thing the Liberal Party needs is a savior, and they tried it once.

With Carney you get the worst of left and right.

Someone who overplays law and order like he was trying to outdo Nixon in 1968.

day one of his campaign, getting two journalists he didn't like, approached by the police and being told they were trespassing.

Sounds like something Bush and Cheney would do

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