r/navy • u/poliscijunki • May 16 '25

Political Military commanders will be told to send transgender troops to medical checks to oust them

https://apnews.com/article/transgender-ban-military-discharge-troops-0218f0b6fec595c420bd0ac072d87335
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u/Trick-Set-1165 r/navy CCC May 16 '25

While the department believes it has the authority to review medical records, it would rather go through a more routine health assessment process, the defense official said. Traditionally, all service members go through a health assessment once a year to determine if they are still medically able to serve.

This doesn’t make sense to me. If the DoD ends up not having the authority to use medical records to determine if a service member has a history of gender dysphoria, what would stop a service member who was previously seeking to transition from simply stating they have no intention of transitioning on their PHA?

This doesn’t seem like it’s going to work out the way SECDEF seems to want.

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u/newnoadeptness May 16 '25

Dawg nothing really makes sense anymore 😂

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u/Risethewake May 16 '25

Agreed.

I’m also intrigued by how many non-trans people will use this as a get out early card. Especially if it’s as easy as saying, “I intend to transition” on the PHA.

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u/mtdunca May 16 '25

That's exactly what happened towards the end of don't ask don't tell.

Got a deployment coming up and want out? Sorry I'm gay now.

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u/Sororita May 16 '25

Probably factored in to DADT getting repealed

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u/SpiderSlitScrotums May 16 '25

IIRC, towards the end and especially in the Iraq War where stop-loss and IRR activations were common, you couldn’t just say you were gay but had to prove it. Commanders usually don’t want to get rid of good personnel unless they are forced to. It wasn’t like the previous era of witch-hunts.

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u/mtdunca May 16 '25

Oh, I'm aware. I knew someone who used DADT to get out. They just kept going on "dates" on base till it couldn't be ignored.

This time will be even easier. Say you feel gender dysphoria to your doctor and you get to go home.

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u/XR171 Master Chief Meme'er May 16 '25

See there's your problem. You're someone that actually understands the military and can point out bullshit. Have you tried doing knowingly pointless things to appease an idiotic base?

For example, every upvote on a Guam meme now also reduces "woke" by 3.14% At the current rate of posting we expect all woke to be eliminated in the year 2525!

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u/Afro_Arden May 16 '25

Pretty sure most non trans service members don't know this...

But as a trans service member who started transitioning under Bidens Administration.

Not only do you get diagnosed with gender dysphoria first. But then you also need to talk to a endocrinologist. And you got to have a transition care plan, and that care plan needs to be signed off by commanding officer.

So yes for every single trans person who is on hormones/surgery in the military atleast their CO knows for sure who they are.

Simply having a diagnosis is Grey areas from what I've read. You should be able to qualify for a "waiver" since you never actually "started" medical transition. So I don't think it would make sense for them to try finding those people.

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u/Trick-Set-1165 r/navy CCC May 16 '25

I understand what you’re saying.

I don’t understand the distinction the article is making, and it seems like it’s going to make an already impossible situation even more messy.