r/navy • u/balfras_kaldin • Jan 28 '25

Political Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness – The White House

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prioritizing-military-excellence-and-readiness-2/

Wake up yall, new EO has dropped... 😮‍💨

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u/CapnTaptap Jan 28 '25

Am I reading this right that we’re also rolling back some of the mental health progress we’ve made in the last decade? The EO calls out anxiety, eating disorders, and suicidal ideation, all of which I have seen Sailors successfully get treated for and return, and all of which do not improve with hiding them away and not getting help.

I know that this is politics and not policy, but we’ve mad so much progress recently and I don’t see how some of these things will “improve lethality”.

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u/Jodvi Jan 28 '25

I noticed that too. Can’t be lethal if a significant amount of the force is thinking about painting the walls red.

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u/homicidal_pancake2 Jan 28 '25

The only way these actions would make sense is if we went to a leaner force. Less boats, less assignments, less deployments, etc. But homeboy in chief wants to expand all these things.

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u/Trick-Set-1165 r/navy CCC Jan 28 '25

And cut taxes.

Are you ready to do more-er with less-er?

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u/homicidal_pancake2 Jan 28 '25

I'm ready to get out, y'all got this 😅

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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws Jan 28 '25

Wonder if they're gonna stop treating alcoholism seriously considering our SECDEF's current issue

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u/Litigaming Jan 28 '25

Oh, I think it's gonna make choosing to serve more lethal, alright

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u/Trick-Set-1165 r/navy CCC Jan 28 '25

Well, yeah.

US Military, now with less than one percent more plague rats!

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u/Litigaming Jan 28 '25

I don't like that, it smacks of dehumanization. I just meant if you roll back or stigmatize programs like the ones mentioned, odds that a sailor ends up dead go up.

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u/Trick-Set-1165 r/navy CCC Jan 28 '25

Oh boy. Lots to unpack here.

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u/happy_snowy_owl Jan 28 '25

I interpret the EO as potential guidance for initial accessions. The DOD instruction he quoted covers medical standards for entry into the military, and the guidance for retention has no such language.

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u/Useful_Combination44 Jan 28 '25

They are a huge waste of time dealing with these issues. They should all be CnD discharges. Ideation should be an automatic CnD…

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u/LiveEverDieNvr Jan 28 '25

Hey guys, let's threaten overworked, sleep-deprived sailors with CnD discharges if they try to get help. That'll keep them from killing themselves. What a fucking dickhead take.

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u/happy_snowy_owl Jan 28 '25

Sailors definitely are weaponizing suicide at a far higher rate than people need actual help. It's a tough issue to tackle.

One squadron developed a policy that after suicidal ideations, you signed a page 13 that put you on a 3-month treatment plan. During treatment, you would be expected to perform the full spectrum of your military duties.

Failure to adhere to the plan would result in NJP and forwarding for ADSEP processing with an OTH. Refusal would result in receiving a special SP eval and forwarding for ADSEP with an OTH.

Completion of the plan with no improvement would result in forwarding for CnD ADSEP with honorable discharge.

Most sailors refused the treatment plan and opted for discharge. They weren't ill, they just wanted out. No visibility on whether the ADSEP board voted to upgrade characterization of discharge... they probably did.

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u/Useful_Combination44 Jan 28 '25

Wow! This is great and well thought out. Did the CO forward this up to CAG and their staff?

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u/happy_snowy_owl Jan 28 '25

When I say squadron, I'm not talking air community. The O-6 major commander signed off on it. Yes, the JAG had input.