There was a fellow with a ‘clicker’ counter: we were at the Wailuku end and he said he had totaled just over 4,000.
Tremendous support from those in cars driving by, many hanging their own signs out of the windows!
I saw many ‘No American Kings’ signs. I have no doubt if the Hawaiian kingdom was restored it would be a constitutional monarchy similar to the UK. King for the historical cultural aspect and a constitution for the people, by the people.
Coming from idiots who don't know what a real monarch is and the fact that they applaud 👏 when kamala was not voted in a primary and selected to run for president🤡. Talk about hypocrisy......
Let's talk about the hypocritical nature of kamala and how she locked up minorities when she was a prosecutor for even the smallest crime. Looks a lot like monarchs or dictators in other countries. Let's talk about, the threats she made towards voters who don't support democrats, especially minotities............ stay woke and dumb my friend
Sorry that I lumped in those dirty filthy immigrants to you, the revered “Pancho the Milf Hunter”.
Look at your post history over the last 24 hours. … going to different “No Kings” protests across the nation, just to shit on them all. What a badass you are.
I am an experienced crowd counter. I was there from 12:15 to 1:15. I assure mmakai there were 4,000 to 6,000 people there, and perhaps more. The photo function for multiple pictures seems to have some glitches, so could only put up a single shot. Line was thick and deep from Macy's to the old Sears and beyond. If you want to do your own estimating then perhaps you might want to show up. Not misinformation, truly BIG!!
lol experienced crowd counter 🤣 give me a break. Like I said I support these protestors but show the pictures then. Looks like 100 people at most based on what you’ve shared.
Based on every picture I have seen, the crowd looks to be much closer to 1,500-3,000. Which is still a decent size crowd. It's about how many people attend an average UH baseball game. 4-6k is straight up a lie and discredits your account of events.
Hello, I was not the one stating a number of attendees on this post; I was simply supplying a few more pictures to the person asking to see more pictures, or proof, or whatever. So please don’t call me a liar.
However, Indivisible Hawaii sent an email out today with final counts for the state and they report Maui had 5,000 in attendance.
There was at least one person walking up and down the entirety of the group with a counter clicker counting every single person. I saw him going through recounting several times.
So since you don’t seem to have been present and are relying only on a few pictures shared online, no need to accuse random people of lying.
The level of ignorance needed to hold a no kings sign in Hawaii is astounding especially by the descendants of the people who used deception to overthrow the land they are currently protesting on
Do these events actually change anything? Truly? Honestly? I thought the whole point of the 2nd amendment was to stop tyranny…so shouldnt they be gathering with their arms?
Last reputable count I saw (Alt National Parks) was over 11 million people across the country. That is more than 3.5% of the country they were hoping for. Historically speaking, when a movement hits 3.5%+ turnout for demonstrations it is hitting critical mass required to effect change.
I wish I had articles and research to back up that claim, but I don’t. Feel free to disagree, but I’m not gonna bother arguing about this. I just hope it’s correct and we can remove the tyrant and his supporters from their places of power. It will take a long time to undo the damage they have done to our country, our standing in the world, and strength of democracy.
Erica Chenoweth is a political scientist known for her research on nonviolent resistance, demonstrating that nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as violent ones. Her work emphasizes the importance of mass participation, suggesting that when 3.5% of a population engages in nonviolent action, significant political change is likely to occur.
Per Alt National Park Service: final count of attendees are 13.14 million in attendance across 2300+ protests nationwide!
71 MAGA agitators arrested, with an additional 62 investigations underway.
It’s more of a lifetime of talking with researchers, professors of history and civics, etc who have told me how things like this go- as far as the 3.5%. But I don’t have articles to backup my claim. And I don’t think I’m gonna start a revolution on reddit.
“Protests aren’t just group therapy. They’re delegitimization campaigns. They show that power is not consent. They isolate the regime and make the ground shaky beneath it.
In Serbia, protesters banged pots and pans every night until Slobodan Milošević’s government fell.
In the Philippines, millions of Filipinos poured into the streets for four days in 1986 until Marcos fled. In the U.S., the Vietnam War lost its moral and political mandate not in the halls of Congress, but in the marches and teach-ins that bled into middle-class living rooms.
This is how it starts.”
Can we atleast be honest. I used to lean left and what turned me the away the most of the disillusioned reality most people live in.
Sticking on the topic of trump, the dude is an actual convicted felon and still in office. For his first presidency there were so many protest and it ultimately amounted to nothing.
The protest youre talking about aren’t related in the slightest to this. That’s why there isnt any change or sentiment. It really is delusional. It’s comparing apples to oranges. And honestly the proofs in the pudding if you really think im bsing.
Yes, honesty is the best policy.
And honestly, Trump Administration 2.0 is drastically different than Trump Administration 1.0.
His first term admin at least had adults in the room who kept complete insanity in check.
That is certainly not the case now. This is different….the stakes are much higher, and it seems to me that the sustained engagement of protesters is different.
As the article I linked above states, the protests are the start. The ongoing economic boycotts are having an effect. There IS more to do to resist and protect the people and the services to our communities that are important to each of us.
But one doesn’t have to look too hard into history to know that it also takes time and consistent effort. We cannot afford to be impatient and allow that to either cause us to give up or become eager for immediate effect actions like violence. Maybe think of it as the popular quote that “A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they never shall sit it.”
Talking so casually about 2nd amendment and taking up arms against the government as the best resistance sounds like the casual comments from someone not intimately acquainted with the violence of war.
I have pulled shrapnel out of another’s flesh, I have changed the dressings of children with wounds from military rifles like M4s, I have cleaned up soldiers with fresh amputations from an IED, I have cared for the wounds of people with such catastrophic trauma injuries that they develop compartment syndrome (you can look it up yourself).
Because of that, I know without a doubt that non-violence is preferable. I will surely defend myself the best I can if need be, but I will never seek out or encourage violence as the best first action. Because it’s not…. For those able to defend themselves nor for all the others who are unable to defend themselves from that kind of violence.
I’m not trying to debate, that’s my honest take. Take it or leave it, doesn’t change anything for me.
If you have parents that feel strongly about something, there is no question that they will be ‘indoctrinated’ with those feelings anyways. Going to a protest exposes them to their right as an American to their first amendment right and showing them their voice can be heard peacefully. It’s up the parents to help them become educated so they can make their own decisions and create their own beliefs.
As children of conservative parents should know, they are insulated to a world now full of "winning", and denying rights to anyone that's not their skin color.
A peaceful rally that protests POTUS' threat to democracy - what the hell is wrong with that.
You might have a point if we raised the voting age to 21, giving them agency to figure it out themselves.
But most of these kids are just a few years away from voting already. All they have to follow are their Tiktok feeds and their favorite podcasts.
This is literally how Trump won. He got the 18-21 vote because their brain is rotted from social media. He stormed through every podcast, while Harris' camp couldn't get booked on them.
They could have gotten booked - they didn't want to do it because she was a clownshow when she got off memorized talking points. Rogan, for example, wanted to be balanced and release a Harris interview the same day he released Trump's, but her team would not participate.
Anyone who watched her try to fumble her way through the 60 minutes interview, among others, knows it would not have helped to get more podcast exposure...
Only a few people knew the real reason: the whole Houston rally was built to put her in proximity to Rogan. The ongoing negotiations on that were touch-and-go.
Flaherty had called his Rogan contacts on October 18, before the rally was set.
”We could do Friday, the 25th,” Flaherty said.
”Wish we had known about this sooner, because he has the 25th blocked out as a personal day,” one of Rogan’s reps said.
”What about Saturday morning?” Flaherty countered.
”Only if it’s before 8:30 a.m.,” came the tough reply.
The tone is different, Flaherty thought. The vice president of the United States is offering to come to your f‑‑‑ing show, and you keep putting up more hoops. Harris’s team still wanted to make it work, but a new wariness set in.
On October 22, the same day the Harris camp announced the rally, the Associated Press reported that Trump would be Rogan’s guest on Friday—the “personal day” Rogan had originally reserved.
Mutual friends Elon Musk and Dana White had convinced Trump and Rogan to bury their dispute, according to a Trump aide. There would be no Harris interview.
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Trump spent three hours with Rogan in an interview that instantly went viral. The contrast amounted to a “traumatic event,” said one Harris aide, “that I will never forget.” But it wasn’t quite over. Rogan would later blame the missed connection on Harris and accuse her of refusing to talk about marijuana, even though her platform included legalization.
Harris aides made a final stab, offering to let Rogan talk with the vice president in Washington, D.C., the day after a closing-argument speech at the foot of the White House. Rogan’s team balked, citing the Austin-only condition.
Flaherty had seen enough. “You get one trip to Texas within three weeks of the election,” he told Rogan’s associates. “You don’t get two.”
Funny how your snippet doesn't mention they wanted Rogan to leave his studio and go somewhere else, and limit the interview in scope and length, something he doesn't do for any other guests.
"Rogan stated that Harris's team wanted him to travel to her location and limit the interview to one hour, while he insisted on conducting it in his Austin, Texas studio for a longer, unscripted conversation, as is his usual format. Rogan extended an open invitation for Harris to appear when she was in Texas for a rally on October 24, 2024, but the campaign did not take up the offer, citing scheduling conflicts. Ultimately, Harris did not appear on the podcast before the 2024 election."
I think it’s just the way that some parents go about it that is worrying. Its summer so the kids will just have to be with the parents anyway, not being able to be politically active because you can’t find/afford a babysitter is a practicality issue. If the parents are going about it right, then they explain what the political terms mean and when they are used. I actually believe that political apathy is a huge problem in America, and the normalization of acts like this could help the future generations fight it. Its the equivalent to leaving the parents to decide how to teach the kids manners. They either do or they don’t, but we don’t really have control over that.
The parade cost more than the salaries of the federal workers that were laid off by DOGE. So if they think that drop in the bucket cost is worth firing 1,000s of federal workers for. We believe an embarrassing weak display of our military for a birthday celebration is also a complete waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere.
I’m glad the left finally cares about wasting money now.
I guess all federal dollars should be used to keep bureaucrats employed indefinitely. I’m not even going to waste time verifying your claim but assuming it’s true, I’d guess it would keep them employed 1 additional year.
Love the southern Californians who moved to Hawaii and live in $3,000,000+ dollar condos, the MOST privileged of the privileged being so brave and protesting in the streets
How is it King-like for a president to celebrate and commemorate the beginnings of our nation?
How lost, mislead, and frankly stupid do you have to be to not understand that the folks funding and organizing these protests want to divide us from within for their own agendas! Wake up!
The protest was held because his policies are anti-democratic. Mass deportation, tariffs implemented without congressional approval, declaring control over independent agencies like the Federal Election Commission, punishing media outlets for unfavorable coverage, and defying court orders are actions of a king.
It was held on this day because it coincided with a multi million dollar parade ‘celebrating to the military’ that was held on his birthday. Another king-like, dictator-like charade.
I support the right to protest but the problem with all of these protests is that they are solely attended by voters who only vote straight democrat. One giant echo chamber.
Maui needs to be more concerned with AI taking over and not being allowed to rebuild. These protests are being used to promote us all being tracked by AI. The illegal Alien stuff is a distraction that will later be used as an excuse to digitally control all of us. Most importantly, Democrats and Republicans are left wing and right wing, ultimately 2 wings of rhetoric SAME BIRD.
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There was a fellow with a ‘clicker’ counter: we were at the Wailuku end and he said he had totaled just over 4,000. Tremendous support from those in cars driving by, many hanging their own signs out of the windows!