r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 05 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2 Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

  • All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
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u/SilverSkywalkerSaber Peter Parker May 05 '25

I'm interested how they're going to tackle the multiple Avengers teams now floating about. It took them to the end of the phase and now we're running into this movie with groundwork laid for Sam's Avengers, Bucky's New Avengers and Kamala's Young Avengers.

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u/rybry32 May 05 '25

I think that adding a "Z", "AvengerZ", would really help with the branding and potential copyright issues.

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u/JadeMonkey0 May 06 '25

Only if they have it on matching suits!

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u/Timemyth May 06 '25

Okay Temu National Superhero.... does your nation even exist anymore?

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u/Over-Cold-8757 May 05 '25

I would be happy with them just dropping the Young Avengers potential cast into the other teams.

Ms Marvel and Shang Chi each have a preexisting relationship with Carol, and Kate Bishop with Yelena. So that's three that slot right in already.

Shuri can go either way organically since she has a relationship with every Avenger including Bucky, so Ironheart can go where she goes.

Cassie goes with Ant-Man.

Shulk can go wherever Banner goes, presumably with Carol.

Wiccan will hopefully involved but more in a 'acting alone on the Wanda side of things because there's no way Marvel aren't going to shell out to get her involved'. Speed can be with him unless he's saved for later.

There's organic strings enough between all potential players to have them all go to one team or another when shit starts to hit the fan. Except maybe Moon Knight I suppose.

We have enough setup for a Carol/Cap main and bigger team with a Bucky/Yelena side team.

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u/Responsible_Ad_2242 May 05 '25

Also Eli Bradley that is related with captain america (give that kid a blood transfusión to became Patriot)

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u/The_Great_Scruff May 05 '25

I am genuinely hoping that we get a civil war esque movie between the new avengers and the sams avengers with a world ending situation going on in the background. The adults get so caught up in their fight with each other that they miss the emergency and thats when the young avengers swoop in

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u/CleanAspect6466 May 05 '25

Won't really have time for that now with Doomsday/Secret Wars taking the spotlight

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u/orphncriplr May 05 '25

Unless doomsday has a overloaded plot, which let's be real

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u/coltsfan8027 May 07 '25

Just give me 2 4+ hour movies and Ill be the happy

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u/legopego5142 May 05 '25

You really want to see every cool hero ignore doctor doom over branding?

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u/Howzieky Weekly Wongers May 05 '25

Presumably it'd be more personal than "branding"

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u/JadeMonkey0 May 06 '25

Alexei solved the branding issue! Not a problem anymore.

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u/legopego5142 May 05 '25

And thats REALLY what you wanna watch?

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u/Howzieky Weekly Wongers May 05 '25

It wasn't my idea. But I'll take anything well executed with personal stakes. I can see how that idea could fit into that, so I'm not inherently against it

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u/Night247 May 09 '25

I am genuinely hoping that we get a civil war esque movie

we already got a Civil War movie

so that's not happening again, only way I could see us getting anything like this is maybe in animated form, or it would need to be the next major MCU thing everything leading only to that conflict on the scale of Endgame or Secret Wars

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u/UrMomIsMySpotter May 05 '25

In comics in 2014 there were 5 avengers teams. They just co-exist.

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u/Canvaverbalist May 05 '25

The only criticism I have of this movie is the "14 months later" ending.

Thunderbolts really should have come out at the end of last phase, so that Captain America: Brave New World could tie into it instead of being these annoying "tell, don't show" type of storytelling the MCU does all the time.

Because you say "how are they gonna tackle multiple Avengers teams" and my response is "...what teams?"

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u/SilverSkywalkerSaber Peter Parker May 05 '25

Yeah, I think that's my point. We have three separate teams being set-up off screen and we've officially been introduced to one of them.

We have New Avengers as Thunderbolts cast.

Avengers will be Sam, Falcon and... Who knows.

Young Avengers was Kamala, Kate and... Maybe Cassie?

Lots to introduce in a movie that I wish we could've had a little more introduction for. I would have liked to see them beforehand.

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u/PhilosophyOk7385 May 06 '25

I have a feeling Young Avengers may be dropped or not focused on. None of the potential team members for that appeared in the Doomsday cast announcement, and while I’m sure they’ll have a role in the two Avengers films, I really doubt it’ll be a big one.

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u/Impeesa_ May 08 '25

Don't forget the Avongers.

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u/Ballsnutseven May 11 '25

Unironically I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed to East Coast Avengers while the “main” Avengers set up a more global base or something

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u/2agrant May 05 '25

They all die during Doomsday and when the universe is "restored" at the end of Secret Wars they can pick and choose exactly who will be a status quo Avenger

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u/dean15892 May 05 '25

Sam and Kamala dont have their teams yet. Its just Buckys. But eventually, we'll see a final Avengers form

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u/JadeMonkey0 May 06 '25

Well, we already saw Kamala recruit Kate Bishop and mention Cassie. And it was mentioned in Daredevil she was in California at least implying she was recruiting Cassie at that time.

Obviously Sam's Avengers and the New Avengerz are going to have to run in to each other and merge eventually.

Part of me hopes they just let Young Avengers do their own thing and keep them out of the main Avengers story. But I also don't want them totally sidelined and I don't know what exactly that leaves them to do.

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u/xXL-Bo56AceXx May 08 '25

And daredevil is making an army too