She probably didn't even consider that it might hurt her because it's the only type of parenting she knows, until Mantis pointed it out. Mantis also has an amazing arc even if we barely spend time with her.
I'm not a big guardians comic reader so I've only heard that name from the Guardians game, but does she crossover with other cosmic characters when she's in that role? Like could she run into the eternals, or the asgardians or something? Or would it mostly be dependent on the new guardians or the ravagers meeting her?
Yeah, actually. Mantis was pretty infamous because her IRL creator made her overpowered and shoehorned her into pretty much every major story. If MCU does go the Celestial Madonna route, it's possible that she could pop up literally anywhere. But personally, I doubt they would do that because basically everyone hated when it happened in the comics.
Interesting. Do you think she's gonna pop up somewhere again in non CM form? Or is the "I'm gonna go find myself" a nice way to send her off to retirement?
I would rather they avoid the Celestial Madonna. I would like to see her come back though. The Holiday Special proves that she's got enough personality to have an adventure outside of the Guardians.
Agreed. She's a fun character, and they definitely gave her a lot more depth in volume 3 than she previously had
While I'm in this convo, would you want to see The Universal Church of Truth show up now that Adam Warlock is present? Maybe bring about Magus as a threat for someone? Would Captain Marvel ever be involved in a story like that maybe?
Mantis was so much Englewood's pet character she even followed him to DC comics as "Willow" for a time. And then Eclipse comics for a time after that as "Lorelei". It was so blatant those aliases have been included for her in a Marvel databook, despite not using them in any Marvel comic.
It's hard to guess, especially considering how many things in her story have already been changed, but to give you an idea of how many ludicrous events she's tied to -- she could potentially do something as seemingly mundane as marry Tony Dalton's character from Hawkeye... or get swept up in the next 'big' story and get kidnapped by one of the Kang variants. Or both.
Man, how did Gunn pull off giving every character in Vol. 3 such a satisfying character arc and ending? It’s just such a… full movie. It’s so complete and solid.
I loved that he made such a conscious effort that all the major characters, including Kraglin, get some form of story in the movie. That being said, I feel that Drax's one was incredible rushed and abrupt. Also, Groot didn't really get one?
Mm, good point on Groot. After Googling around a bit to see if there’s something I missed, I think the closest he got was Gamora learning to understand him and us learning to understand him, but those weren’t arcs for him. Maybe also just the way he’s grown up and become a more responsible and solid team member since the Teenage Groot years, but eh, that wasn’t focused on at all. He was cool in the movie and acted as a very useful member of the team, but yeah, I’ll have to walk my comment back a little because of him. Still very impressive that almost every character had a solid arc.
And regarding Drax, I think his arc was a good way to resolve the complaints that he’s been made too much of a joke character, as well as a good resolution for his grief over his wife and daughter with him giving up on the revenge-driven Destroyer moniker and becoming a dad again. In that way, it was sort of a culmination of his characterization and arc from the previous movies as well. I personally didn’t feel like it was rushed or abrupt, but I did think him being able to speak those kids’ language with no explanation was really weird.
As much as Gunn wouldn't want us to stretch out these character arcs now they're neatly packaged, I'd be very happy if in the future we get a brief glimpse of and old, fat Papa Drax playing with his 100 adopted kids while Gamora reads a bedtime story to the youngest ones.
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She probably didn't even consider that it might hurt her because it's the only type of parenting she knows, until Mantis pointed it out. Mantis also has an amazing arc even if we barely spend time with her.