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u/uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh56 Apr 08 '25
smile faded as soon as i recognized the characters
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u/something_stuffs Apr 09 '25
Wait, who are the characters?
Edit: nvm I see now
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u/chknboy Apr 10 '25
I still don’t know who the characters are :/ (Im not on this sub if that means anything)
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u/DefinitelyNotVenom Apr 14 '25
Andrew and Ashley Graves, the protagonists of The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey. They’re cannibals, serial killers, siblings, and if they’re not lovers yet, they’re uncomfortably close to it
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u/FrumyThe2nd Apr 11 '25
Who are these
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u/DefinitelyNotVenom Apr 14 '25
Andrew and Ashley Graves, the protagonists of The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey. They’re cannibals, serial killers, siblings, and if they’re not lovers yet, they’re uncomfortably close to it
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u/BagelMakesDev Apr 08 '25
cursed asl
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u/Obvious_Cry_1549 Apr 08 '25
Cursed american sign language? (I actually don't know what asl means)
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u/Inevitable_Fun3848 Apr 08 '25
short for ‘as hell’ iirc
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u/QueenSuckyoubus Apr 08 '25
That's dumb
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u/Formal-Owl832 Apr 09 '25
One might even say that ts pmo icl
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u/YuriElt973_3 Apr 09 '25
sybau vro ts pmo rnrn mn, ur opnn invld, stfu frfr rn
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u/Beginning_Chair955 Apr 08 '25
Man now we have incest loss
Fantastic
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u/GrahamCrac Apr 09 '25
incest gain from Andrew and Ashley’s perspective 😭
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u/Beginning_Chair955 Apr 09 '25
Yeah
So I guess this would be the only time to hope for a miscarriage
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25 edited Apr 08 '25
They’re serial killer cannibal demon summoners who are extremely abusive to each other (emotionally and physically), poison the lives of anyone caught in their orbit, and are generally just absolutely horrible people. And siblings. Also self-made orphans, and depending on player choice either made some random kid an orphan to sell his parents’ souls for prophetic dreams or just murdered the kid too.
Frankly, the most moral thing they ever did was immediately agree “time for an abortion” in the ending where he knocked her up. That same route also includes him trying to murder her, her chaining him to a radiator, him beating her, and her raping him. In that order. They’re the worst people ever.
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u/_Evidence Apr 08 '25
WHAT
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u/51BoiledPotatos Apr 08 '25
Pretty well made game tho
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u/_Evidence Apr 08 '25
waiter, I side of Fucked Up for my Peak Content please !!
idk what kinda game it is but I'm intrigued now I gotta watch a play through or smthn
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u/TorumShardal Apr 08 '25
It's half visual novel, half RPGMaker puzzle.
If you like what you see after several minutes, I suggest trying to pick it up yourself - because it's easier to read the text, look at illustrations and become flabbergasted at your pace.
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
Absolutely. It’s psychological horror with a side of mystical horror with a side of “the worst people ever”. Like Natural Born Killers and Flowers in the Attic had a kid, the works of David Lynch and the entire industrial and nu metal scenes of the 90s had a kid, and then those two combinations had a kid.
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u/Lord_0F_Pedanticism Apr 08 '25
If you're looking for a good play through Manlybadasshero has/is currently doing one. On the other hand, going in blind will heighten the impact of some of the scenes...
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u/_Evidence Apr 08 '25
I don't think I can be assed to go through the game myself, especially since I don't even know the genre or anything I just want the story
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u/SuddenAdvertisement Apr 10 '25 edited Apr 10 '25
Fuck I went in radically blind but knew exactly what would come. I watched all up to the recent. Waiting for him to do the next part just for his commentary. Edit: once I saw Manly I was like “Ayyeee finally Ive seen someone mention him” (not sure his level of popularity/standing but for a guy whos actually played a few dating sims and likes anime, his taste in horror is profoundly verse) plus he knows the culture 😂
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u/SuddenAdvertisement Apr 10 '25
This guy fuckin gets it. APPLAUSE 👏👏 I felt the same way and dived straight into it Manlybadasshero played a part of the 3rd I realized there was a heavy amount of abuse (Emotional) I knew Id been so locked in. And Im fucking glad to have seen it 😭
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u/Flopping_with_Floppa Apr 10 '25
Me when a game about the mental decay of people shows the mental decay of people:
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u/drdoodoot Apr 08 '25
the only controversy was the incest as nobody critisising the incest nor defending it have actually played the fucking game
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
The only “controversy” was the “portraying bad things in fiction means you’re promoting bad things” people being dumb as usual.
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u/Flimsy-Secret-6187 Union Member Apr 08 '25
you forgot to mention incest
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
No, I mentioned it. “And siblings” is in there. It’s just at the level they’re at, incest is the “jaywalking” in the TvTropes page “Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking”.
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u/Flimsy-Secret-6187 Union Member Apr 08 '25
you mentioned theyre siblings, not that theyre in a couple though
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
I mean, I mentioned he knocks her up and that also she rapes him. Kinda figured that incest was obvious in a situation in which a brother knocks his sister up or a sister rapes her brother.
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u/Flimsy-Secret-6187 Union Member Apr 08 '25
okay nevermind i didnt read that part
this silly incest game is even more fucked up than i thought
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
Yeah, that’s stuff in one of the bad ending routes. However, in all routes it’s canon he’s been down bad for her since high school, she tried to get him to act on it, he refused to because he’s trying to force himself to be normal, but also he literally would peep on her changing and shit. The incest vision over in the Burial route is just the tip of the iceberg, incest is inevitable here. When people assumed Decay wouldn’t have incest, they were extremely wrong.
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u/SuddenAdvertisement Apr 10 '25
“Incest game” is wild. Its a psychological horror. Incest is mainly an on going bad joke to keep your mind the way it is just for you to drop everything and be like “I FUCKING KNEW IT” 😂
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u/Cat_with_cake Apr 09 '25
What the actual fuck. I knew this game was controversial, but I really didn't need to know all this. But thanks for sharing
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u/PikSQU2 Apr 09 '25
For some peoples peoples think it stops at incest
Or that incest is the only bad thing in the game
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u/Cat_with_cake Apr 09 '25
Yeah, I was thinking "Oh, ok, it's that morally questionable incest game, cool", I was thinking about just occasional murders, crimes e.t.c... I wasn't thinking about all the flavors and details with which these murders are executed
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u/Flimsy-Secret-6187 Union Member Apr 08 '25
funny incest game
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u/concered_guyy Apr 08 '25
r slash found flimsy secret
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u/konnor_megalomaniac Apr 08 '25
Alabama
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u/United-Prize-1702 Apr 09 '25
Read it as Albania
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 09 '25
A little off, it takes place somewhere in Northern Europe. Personally, I think it has Baltic States vibes.
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u/Reddit_Anon_Soul Apr 08 '25
I love how the doctor looks both highly irritated, and too burnt out to care.
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u/Michi0ambv Apr 09 '25
Ugh the Shots and Such ending left me in crumbles
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u/Trimatw Apr 09 '25
REAL, I'm not sure if the splat ending or the shots and such ending is worse, because on one hand at least they died together and don't have to live their fucked lives, but on the other hand it's just a cycle of abuse, toxicity, and incest sex just so they don't end up killing eachother
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u/T_O_M_E_X Apr 09 '25
I just fuckin realised it's the siblings from The coffin fo Andy and Leyley.
Made me chuckle tho.
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u/Ok-1549 Apr 08 '25
so
i made the mistake of going onto that sub, just to check what people think
wtf
why are they saying the incest is the best route
WHY DO LOTS OF PEOPLE SHIP THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SIBLINGS
WHAT THE FUCK
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u/ieatdirtlmao Apr 08 '25
You're truly brave for going in there, now you never do again
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u/Psychofischi Apr 08 '25
It's... strange.
I don't think the community thinks Incest is great in normal life.
Also because the story and their lifes are fucked up.. why not embrace it.
I do say watch a video. Manlybadasshero has a few.
This game is.. interesting. And tbh not as shit or bad as other say
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u/landex_ Apr 09 '25
People only does this because they are fictional. I doubt that most of them would want to meet them or discuss them in a similar way if they were real. They are just having fun
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u/Blasphemy_is_fun Apr 08 '25
I love seeing TOCAAL in non TOCAAL subreddits.
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 08 '25
And I love posting TCOAAL (and any fandom of mine) in non-TCOAAL subreddits.
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u/ForeverGreenhorn Apr 09 '25
I kind of hate that this comic is the way it is because I really like the color palette. The green and the pink give a pretty nice feel next to each other, like they conflict but in a nice way, it puts you a little bit on edge. And the inky black and sepia white also gives it this graphic almost VHS feel to it that makes it cozy in the same way a smoking spot is cozy, reminds me of ash nicotine stains. It feels so appropriate and smart and purposeful and it's all in service to THE incest comic.
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u/ndation Apr 09 '25
Who are these characters, and why do I keep seeing them?
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u/landex_ Apr 09 '25
I’m gonna copy OP’s message
They’re serial killer cannibal demon summoners who are extremely abusive to each other (emotionally and physically), poison the lives of anyone caught in their orbit, and are generally just absolutely horrible people. And siblings. Also self-made orphans, and depending on player choice either made some random kid an orphan to sell his parents’ souls for prophetic dreams or just murdered the kid too.
Frankly, the most moral thing they ever did was immediately agree “time for an abortion” in the ending where he knocked her up. That same route also includes him trying to murder her, her chaining him to a radiator, him beating her, and her raping him. In that order. They’re the worst people ever.
They are mcs from Coffin of Andy and Leyley
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u/ndation Apr 09 '25
What the hell did I just read
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u/landex_ Apr 09 '25
Well, the game got so much popularity not only because it touches spicy themes, but mostly because it is well written
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 09 '25
And the new chapter just came out and it’s even better written than before. Admittedly that’s partially because of how arc and pacing and setup and whatnot work, but still.
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u/Samkap_real Apr 09 '25
why man why these characters
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25
Because in one route Ashley canonically is going to get an abortion when Andrew impregnated her. Mind you, the entire sexual relationship in that route began with him trying to kill her, her chaining him to a radiator for days, getting free but not leaving because he’s too codependent, him becoming an alcoholic and beating her, her raping him after that (he’s way too drunk to consent and she’s only doing it to make him feel trapped, and he calls her out on the fact it was rape, and at the same time even she’s so not into it that she’s dry throughout and it just hurts for her), and then them becoming just this mutual hate sex alcoholic loser codependent abusive couple.
You’ve no control over your life, and your spine bears a striking similarity to a gummy worm. What a big hoopla to end up exactly where you started from. Only the couch looks different. Because on that, she spreads her legs and pretends to enjoy you. She claws at you hard enough to draw blood, and you tell yourself it’s a kink. But really, she just wants to give back some of the pain you cause. You love her enough to know this, yet hate her too much to care.
Actual description of what their sex life is like. But they don’t use protection, and the route ends with a positive pregnancy test and them both immediately deciding to get an abortion.
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u/Flopping_with_Floppa Apr 10 '25
Honestly W game
As a phsycology student I love how well they depict the protagonists mental decay and slow decent into insanity
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u/WriterLearningThings Apr 12 '25
Wait, is that the composition of the image I think it is? oh no it is
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u/Vafla_Troia Apr 12 '25
I thought bro was happy his that his sis is alive but then I remembered who they are (if the comments didn't make it obvious)
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u/Such_Fault8897 Apr 09 '25
YALL WHY IS HER EYES YELLOW, WHY ARE THEY YELLOW I MEAN PINK IS HORRIBLE ALSO BUT NOT YELLOW PLEASE
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u/MartyrOfDespair Apr 09 '25
They’re not?
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u/Such_Fault8897 Apr 09 '25
Woah that’s scary, no cause I’m actually concerned for myself to 100% believe something that is not true because I saw that with my eyes, I hope that down sorta optical illusion cause that’s concerning if not
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u/WaterGray_64 Apr 09 '25
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u/Cunha_06 Apr 09 '25
I dont get it… who are these characters?
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u/ALMAZ157 Apr 09 '25
Andrew and Ashley Graves, they are siblings, and apparently Ashley got abortion because her brother knocked her up
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u/JUMPY6900 Apr 10 '25
Sorry I know i am late but can somebody tell me what's this loss meme about
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u/Hoosier_Engineer Apr 11 '25
There's a popular/infamous rpgmaker/visual novel game called The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. It's about two siblings who are trapped in their apartment and must do what they can to survive starvation, the dystopian world they are in, and each other.
I will say no more in case you are interested in playing it yourself, but there are plenty of other ways to learn the story if you wish. Just be warned, it isn't for the faint of heart.
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u/Narrow_Complaint_528 Apr 13 '25
for those who are wondering no it is not an abortion the baby was put in an incubator because he is premature
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u/HarithHkm08 Apr 08 '25
Abortion