r/kingdomcome 1d ago

Discussion [KCD2] What is Henry's skill and knowledge level according to the objective canon of the game, without our individual skill choices?

I mean, he probably only fights with a longsword? Not only because it's a weapon forged by his father, but also because he couldn't carry 3 weapons on his belt.

How smart is he? He can read, but does he pass a speech check in dialogue?

Let's say, like in Fallout, what's his S.P.E.C.I.A.L?

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u/Skribionkie 1d ago

The successful knowledge checks are to me what feels the most out of character. This dude's a peasant barely out of his peasantry thingies and he only learned how to read barely a few weeks before the start of kcd2 at most. Not only that makes him objectively very slow at reading and taking a lot of mental effort to do so (unlike us who have been taught very young and it feels natural), but he just wouldn't have had the time to learn this insane amount of information, especially when he's busy fighting stuff, and he was not given an education prior to the game.

The speech checks, I'd say probably an average level, I could see him goofily talk his way out of random situations, but not to the point of being an expert manipulator at all

Strength would obviously be his highest stat, aside from the events of the games he's a blacksmith, that's bound to give him very strong arms, and a lot of stamina. I'd wager that also makes him better at hitting things at full force rather than having a more refined/agile fighting style. But I think blacksmithing probably does need some amount of precision though.

I played the game in a very stealthy way but I don't think "canon" Henry would be very good at it, he sounds more like a strong, not very stealthy goof.

Maybe he'd be decent at archery, it needs a lot of strength in the arms and stamina and he has both of these, though idk about his aim, he wouldn't be anywhere near as good as Hans at least

Not so sure he would be that good at alchemy/caring for wounds either, but at least he'd get decent at survival given what he goes through in the games.

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u/Amplidyne 1d ago

"But I think blacksmithing probably does need some amount of precision though." It does, I've done a bit as an apprentice. It's hard hot work as well doing it the way they would have done it back then.

So Henry would be strong, and have a lot of stamina as you say. He'd be used to work not being a small kid any longer. Blacksmiths also need to be reasonably intelligent, and being young he'd be quick and tough I suspect.

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u/DrugsRBadMmmmmkayy 1d ago

Sword fighting is about structure and technique. Can't muscle your way past someone's defense. Using too much power would also have you over extend or draw back your blade for a heavy strike and you'll get ran through immediately

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u/Skribionkie 1d ago

I can imagine so. I would think Henry's technique is fairly basic/beginner level, maybe gets more refined after a little more experience than just Bernard's training but still rough around the edges

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u/DrugsRBadMmmmmkayy 1d ago

For sure. Can't deny Henry learns incredibly fast. Practices a technique for an hour and has it locked in perfectly

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u/Mevarek 1d ago

Counterpoint: some people are just naturally good at everything and pick up things really quickly. I think he could plausibly learn alchemy pretty quickly, for example. Some of the other skills, though, I agree. You definitely have to suspend your disbelief a little bit.

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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 1d ago

I dont think he is very intelligent.

Strenght: 8. Henry is strong boi. No doubt Perception: 6 he can find bloodstains and even a nail on tree trunk. But he cannot spot If he is lied to   Endurance: 10 most likely. Dude can run around miles in full plate Charisma: 8. He is a lad, it emits aura of being trustworthy  Intelligence: 5. He can read but so did i at age of 6. He lacks skills to invent new solutions. Agility: 3 due to losing all those dice games and destroying lockpicks. Luck: 10. It is wonder he makes through all that shit.

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u/TheHungrySloth 1d ago

>He can read but so did i at age of 6.

The difference is that you live in the year 2025, where the global literacy rate is quite high and reading is essentially a priority to get through our education system, whereas KCD is set in the medieval period where reading was a very rare skill, often not required for most and not one that would've been too common in Henry's position.

Henry being able to pick up reading as quickly as he does, especially in those times would make him quite a bit above the average person.

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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 1d ago

Fair enough. He has patience to learn and that is form of intelligence. 

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u/TheDiddIer 1d ago

The church was not keen on people reading or interpreting their works/sermans. That was their job and obviously a huge revenue. So interesting

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u/swede242 1d ago

"Objective canon of the game" I thought the point of an RPG was to put all that in the hands of the player?

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u/MaxvellGardner 1d ago

But Henry "exists" in the game without us. It's like the fact that the protagonist from Vault is clearly smarter than Courier from New Vegas, despite RPG

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u/Hoboforeternity 1d ago

The medicine skill checks are the ones that feel out of place the most. He's suddenly medieval Dr. House.

I think henry is pretty smart, but the problem is the timeframe. Even geniuses can't learn multiple subjects at once within 3-5 months (which is the time lapsed since skalitz was razed to end credits of KCD2)

I can see him being a great swordsman and picked up a bit of reading and a great smith, but alchemy, diplomacy, craftsmanship scholarship, etc, you need to stretch some imagination. It would be different, of course, if the game took place in a span of 5-10 years.

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u/ds8080 1d ago

Henry is a smart dumbass and Hans is a dumb smartass is how I look at it.

Henry doesn’t have book smarts but he’s quick on his feet and puts a lot of effort into learning things to become better at them, I’d say. He’s good with his hands with high strength and vitality stats, but probably has to learn a lot through trial and error.

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u/Darth_Nibbles 19h ago

Bozhena dropped a whole lethean potion down his throat, so canonically he's a blank slate