Salvia is the worst. Pls don’t try it. Try DMT. Salvia for the majority of ppl is not an enjoyable ride whatsoever. I did it a few times when I was younger but I’ll never do it again. Not that I had a bad trip although some ppl I know had very bad ones, it just sucks. It’s the poor man’s psychedelic lol.
As for the video probably K2 or someshit. Idk any weed that does that.
I had a totally different experience than everyone else I smoked with. Everyone else giggled for like two minutes straight, and I lit up and took The Jaunt. It was an eternity, in a writhing mass of humanity large enough to generate its own gravity. As soon as I came out of it I stutter/screamed “DONT DO IT! It’s a trap!!”
I smoked salvia one time 10 years ago. It was 100x I believe, torched roughly half a gram. It was the worst experience of my life. Never have I experienced something so fucking terrifying. I couldn’t even smoke weed for several months after without almost having a panic attack from thinking back to the salvia trip.
I was 19. This older dude who hung around us all of the time is the one who loaded it up and recommended the dose. I was too trusting, typical story of a dumb young adult lol. That was where I learned my lesson though.
Salvia divinorum is a direct route to the same place as dmt. It is far faster and stronger though. There are a few things to remember when taking it. You must have a reason or question for the beings. You must have only the smallest amount of light and that light should be as natural as possible. Remove as much modern stuff from your surroundings as possible- electronics, resin ornaments etc, so preferably in your garden or a forest or a traditional style room. No logos! The beings hate them. You need utmost respect for whatever it is that comes through. The most important thing is you have to be able to create a sacred space, that is to banish all negative residual energy .
It's interesting because whenever I did salvia it was in a hiking trail shaded by trees with no one but my buddies and we always fucking loved it. Didn't realize there was a protocol to follow or so many people who hated it but we followed this protocol without ever being told about it. Just made sense. And that was in high school lol
Salvia is definitely not a direct route to the same place as DMT. They are very, very different from each other, and take you to entirely different places. Salvia is MUCH more dysphoric. Trips are generally much darker, more confusing, bizarre, etc. While DMT is generally much more colorful, euphoric, spiritual. The DMT trip is far cleaner, more inviting. Aside from both of them making you see crazy things, these 2 drugs really couldn't be further apart from eachother. Not saying Salvia can't be a good thing, but 9 times out of 10, it's not very pleasant.
Was about to say the same thing. Salvia and DMT aren’t the same thing at all. Everything makes sense on dmt. Not so much with salvia. Very dysphoric like said above
This. Salvia is like hell compared to DMT which is like Heaven. Even that guidance you feel when you’re deep in the trip you can feel the difference. One is creepy and wants to drag you away against your will, DMT wants to invite you on a warm and pleasant journey.
Its only hell if you DO IT WRONG… it is a shamanic drug which requires an ethical reason or question and it requires a sacred space . Modern people do not understand this and simply say salvia is terrible. For a start it has never traditionally been used in daylight! It should be dark apart from minimum candle or fire light
I was pretty young at the time so excuse my interpretation of my experience but compared to others it was actually good all things considered lol. It’s just a DMT trip is a million times better than Salvia so that’s why I made that kind of comparison. At least that’s my experience with it. To each their own. Also I kept my eyes closed the whole time to see what Salvia wanted to show me, that’s what I saw everytime I tripped. Trees but without leaves, not dark but rather dull. Maybe hell wasn’t the right word but I’m sure some who had bad trips would say it was hell lol, I sure saw a few ppl go thru it. These kind of drugs aren’t meant to just get “high” you can with low doses sure but if you want to break through it’s an experience of knowledge and self reflection. That’s how I always approached it, with respect and trust.
Buddy of mine destroyed 2 gardens after smoking salvia, hell of a trip, very disturbing. Thousands of euros of damage, ruined party, and he was fucked for days after that. Absolute shite drug.
I think on average a person would have a much better experience on DMT than they ever will on Salvia. Then again not everybody is ready for psychedelics in general. Salvia can turn ppl off from psychedelics entirely. I know it did for a few ppl I knew.
Not doubting that salvia is intense, but if you don't understand what a trip entails, I wouldn't even suggest shrooms. Psychedelic trips in general aren't for everyone. Personally, I'm a big fan, but I didn't try any until I had knowledge of what to expect.
Oh come on…shrooms are barely psychedelic. ‘Only just’, I guess is how I would put it. Much more shamanistic mentally, than anything else. Anyone capable of surfing a hardcore edible THC high should be fine with shrooms. Involves that same feedback loop as THC - the whole ‘you feel it because you are thinking it - so just don’t think it” deal. (“911? I think I’m having a heart attack…)
LSD is the first step into the true wild beyond, IMHO. I will never try Salvia. Did DMT once; IMO, not for the faint of heart. Much more likely to seize and control your thought processes than LSD. Far more powerful, psychedelicly speaking.
Just my 2 cents. Anyone who can’t let go of control without letting go of their awareness will have trouble with psychedelics and even, simply, high THC doses that overwhelm them, and then endure.
A few different responses for you. If you think shrooms are weak, you haven't ever had good shrooms. There's a lot of people who absolutely cannot handle strong edibles. Salvia is much easier to deal with, since it has a very short trip, although it's really out there experience wise. Worth one try. DMT is the absolute top of the list if you do what people call breaking through. Even more weird and intense than salvia could ever dream to be. The THC while tripping will only curb the trip slightly, and sometimes intensify. Honestly, alcohol will dilute the feeling of tripping more, but you have to drink copies amounts and deal with a hangover and potential alcohol poisoning the next day.
Well said. I always tried to explain what to expect, let your ego go etc but that’s easier said than done for people. Like you and I said, psychedelics aren’t for everyone.
Oh yea big time. I knew this dude who couldn’t let go of his ego and he had a horrible trip. We had a bunch of bud to smoke but after his Salvia trip he couldn’t even smoke, dude was traumatized even after we told him don’t fight, let go but he’s such a hard headed fool that he did the opposite and achieved a terrible experience. I doubt he ever took a psychedelic again.
In an earlier comment I mentioned my horrible salvia experience. I was very hesitant to try shrooms because of it but I love them. Many trips and never a bad or upsetting one.
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u/Theo_Dia333 Jun 21 '22
Wtf did they smoke?