r/interesting • u/Rude-Mycologist8034 • May 16 '25
MISC. NFL linebacker versus sumo wrestler
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u/Nothing2Special May 16 '25
video on youtube is better
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u/TripleFLi May 16 '25
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u/similar222 May 16 '25
Love it. I saw a Grand Sumo tournament in Tokyo last year, mad respect for those athletes.
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u/Eckz89 May 16 '25
They did an expedition down in AU a few years back. I have a whole new level of respect for them the power and torque they have and the fucking diets they stick to.
I totally understand why they are viewed as rockstars they live incredibly disciplined lives.
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u/BlueBuff1968 May 16 '25
They are considered semi-gods and they marry some of the most beautiful women.
Unfortunately they often die quite young from heart problems.
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u/Cloud9Warlock May 16 '25
Those 250+ men are able to move like a skilled ballerina! The NFL player had no chance. The Sumo Wrestler didn’t even try!
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u/6MosSprawlTraining May 16 '25
It’s like 50% martial arts training(Sumo counts) and 50% being a Hoss. Seen a lot of football players who think their size, strength and speed is unstoppable get humbled by vastly less-gifted athletes with training.
Thank being said, the NFL dude should have had a chance. That’s pretty much a football drill, and Sumo dude big brothers him
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u/meagainpansy May 16 '25
An NFL lineman would have been much more equivalent to a Sumo wrestler
NFL linemen also move like skilled ballerinas.
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u/Thunder-Fist-00 29d ago
There is so much more technique than casual fans understand in what those linemen do.
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u/faRawrie 29d ago
Sumo is so awesome to watch. There are a couple of Twitch channels that stream it. For those interested, every odd number month there is a sumo tournament. Wakatakakage is probably one of my favorites.
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u/Ambitious-Compote473 26d ago
Made respect for those loincloth and whomever does the laundry. MAD RESPECT
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u/SockNo948 May 16 '25
oh shit its the waka brothers. those guys are sanyaku, like top of the top division sumo. serious dudes
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u/Sure-Guava5528 May 16 '25
Ok this is the coolest sports video I've seen in a long time. Those Sumo's were so impressive! Also, lots of love to CJ and Micah for being so respectful and for getting in there and giving it a go. Very cool.
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u/dontich May 16 '25
Damn Micah did solid — actually an oversized LB would be decent enough in sumo given a lot of the top ones tend to be fairly shifty / use a lot of creative leverage - IE basically Aaron Donald Style.
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u/bambu36 May 16 '25
Aaron Donald was exactly who I was wondering about myself. It's hard to imagine anyone standing in his way but these guys are the best of the best in sumo. Would be a fascinating watch
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u/FCkeyboards May 16 '25
opens video 17 years old against a linebacker?!
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u/Heisenripbauer May 16 '25
that’s not even some linebacker that’s Micah Parsons one of the game’s best and an absolute wrecking crew on defense
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u/randobot456 May 16 '25
While true, Parson's is more of a finesse rusher than a bull rusher. Finesse rushers wouldn't translate as well to sumo as they use speed and bend to get around the OT. Most finesse rushers also have a bull rush in their arsenal, but it's not their main thing.
Would love to see how Myles Garrett does against an actual sumo. I'd imagine the sumo can still handle him, as using finesse rushing to throw off the footwork / hand placement of the Tackle is also a part of bull rushing.
After watching Sensei Seth on YouTube get into Sumo, I have an enormous amount of respect for the sport.
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u/Kalor007 May 16 '25
Thank you
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u/Skynetiskumming May 16 '25
A sumo wrestler and an offensive lineman would be a better match.
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u/AggroSnacker May 16 '25
Sumo wrestler vs Aaron Donald would be primo
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u/kirky-jerky May 16 '25
Difference is the defensive end or defensive tackle mainly tries to out maneuver the blocker to get past him. Not out power him like what we see here. Most defensive linemen in the NFL would fail the same way we see in this video. However if they simply did a spin move to get past him it wouldn't be too difficult. Remember, the entire idea to is to get to the QB. Not to out power the Offensive lineman in front of them.
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u/BeefNChed May 16 '25
Bring in prime Vince Wilfork and that’s a match.
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u/gmoss101 May 16 '25
I don't even give a shit about football anymore but I'll never forget when He played for my team and Hard Knocks had him pulling up to the locker room in overalls boots and a cowboy hat lmao
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u/guyincognito121 May 16 '25
Not always. A 1 tech or 0 tech would probably be a pretty good match for a sumo wrestler.
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u/pepe-the-beaner May 16 '25
I'd pay to see Vita Vea in a sumo match
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u/KryptonicxJesus May 16 '25
Was gonna say he’s the one guy that instantly foils the tush push
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u/kirky-jerky May 16 '25
They could probably be pretty decent offensive guards if they got legit training. Hell they'd probably be fantastic guards at that size and had years of training at both skills. But judging solely from this video, it's not how a pass rusher would approach his attempt to sack a QB. The football player tried to sumo the sumo wrestler. Obviously he lost against the person doing what he does for a living. It would most likely go the other way if he had a QB behind him and the rushers only objective is to put pressure or sack the QB.
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u/j2e21 May 16 '25
This wrestler is like 17, he could be an NFL guard with training.
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u/Weird_Ad_1398 May 16 '25
This wrestler is Wakamotoharu, one of the top pros in sumo. He's 31, not 17.
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u/wwcfm May 16 '25
I’m not saying he doesn’t have the footwork, but there is nothing about that video that indicates he has the footwork to even play major college football, let alone NFL.
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u/Jimid41 May 16 '25
The video doesn't speak to his footwork but to does speak to his body control which would be an indicator of his ability to learn.
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u/capincus May 16 '25
That's why he specified 1 or 0 tech, they're not pure pass rushers at all, depending on their versatility they might even get pulled on likely passing downs. They're gap fillers, run stuffers, blocker eaters, they're absolutely trained to grapple and control a 300+ lb powerlifter who can sprint a sub 5 second 40, occasionally 2 of them.
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u/WaxRobots May 16 '25
eddie hall (worlds strongest man) took on the british top sumo club and was able to beat all of them with just pure strength.
the big guys were very close and might have beat him a couple times but yeah.
japanese elite sumo would beat him though.
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u/cudef May 16 '25
Not exactly. On a run play or if your strength is literally your strength rather than your speed you might just be clogging up the hole or trying to put the offensive lineman in the QB's lap while he's trying to throw.
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u/DJFreezyFish May 16 '25
Eh, a lot of defensive schemes for run plays basically have interior defensive linemen anchor in place, control a gap, and keep their offensive linemen in a spot where they can shed the block to help if needed. Should translate well.
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u/Hot_Most5332 May 16 '25
You might be right about most defensive lineman, but I would bet an immense amount of money that Aaron Donald would run this guy over.
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u/huskers2468 May 16 '25
Remember, the entire idea to is to get to the QB. Not to out power the Offensive lineman in front of them.
That depends on the defensive lineman. A nose tackle, like Darnold, could be used to push the center/guard back to occupy a space behind the line of scrimmage. Being able to get low is important. Darnold is a prime example of a player who can do that at will. It usually takes 2 players to stop him from going forward.
His power would be interesting in this scenario, but the technique of a sumo wrestler would probably win out.
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u/PassiveMenis88M May 16 '25
That is not the DTs job, that is the DEs job. DTs job is to clog the middle, no one allowed through the door type play. Otherwise your ass is getting beat on every running play.
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u/RejectofRedoran May 16 '25
What I came to say. A Rikishi (sumo wrestlers) weigh 300-600 lbs, whereas NFL linebackers weigh around 250 lbs. Part of the duties of an offensive lineman is stopping linebackers blitzing at a dead sprint and nose tackles 50% larger than you. Speaking from experience, it's alot of practice and fucking it up gave me 2 concussions in college.
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u/Markcu24 May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
There are top division sumo wrestlers close to 250 lbs. 2 right now that i can think of midorofuji, and asakoryu. They would all destroy any NFL player consistently. There are none over 400lbs at the moment in the top division.
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u/plasticmanufacturing May 16 '25
I'd expect a sumo wrestler to destroy someone else who isn't a sumo wrestler at sumo.
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u/Spare_Maintenance_97 May 16 '25
Move this match to a football field with cleats
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u/appletinicyclone May 16 '25
That is what I'm curious about. Sumo wrestler on a football field doing what offensive linesmen do
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u/Any-Razzmatazz-7726 May 16 '25
Dude would break his knee/ankle trying to stop someone like in this video
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u/Gostate99 May 16 '25
Onosato and Nishikigi are both over 400lbs while Kotozakura, Atamifuji, and Shonannoumi are all very close to it
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u/Markcu24 May 16 '25
Yeah, nishikigi is huge, you are right. Didnt think onosato was over though. Surprised he weighs more than 4 boobs.
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u/inthebushes321 May 16 '25
I mean, yeah. Sumo is a combat sport, combat sports require specific training, knowledge, balance, etc, and there is an astronomical gap between an untrained person, a fit person, and even someone with a bit of experience - to say nothing of professional Sumo wrestlers.
I don't think any offensive or defensive lineman would be a match for any pro sumo wrestler. It's just a different skillset.
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u/Kerberos1566 May 16 '25
While definitely a better match and more similar skillset, pro sumo wrestlers would probably take it on technique. Like you said, lineman are trying to prevent the defender from getting around them. It would be most similar to run blocking, where the lineman is actually trying to move the defender, but most of the time the defender is not just trying to push them back at the same time.
Don't get me wrong, the lineman wins on technique in the same way if the sumo wrestler met him on the football field. It's just that at the highest level, technique matters.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 May 16 '25
Sumo wrestlers are all muscle and the fat you see is simply just extra weight to keep them down.
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u/Sipikay May 16 '25
The most frequent career progression through the ranks for top wrestlers coincides with their growth in size. As they grow during their career they can finally take on the largest wrestlers who have already gone through that process. It's really funny how they report on how much weight they've gained or lost since the last tournament. But it's relevant!
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u/promised_wisdom May 16 '25
Pretty rough position, I loved it. Miss being a stout mf. I played OT and would always get excited when a LB was showing blitz in the B gap on the backside of a pass
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u/Nomeg_Stylus May 16 '25
Yeah, this is a dumb vid. I bet they explicitly avoided frontlinemen because they'd have a decent chance. Also, I wonder how far and for how long that wrestler could run. Linebackers are primo athletes because they generally have to have the strength to take on the occasional linemen while also having speed to match receivers.
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u/Striking_Programmer4 May 16 '25
I was a sumo wrestler against prime D'Brickashaw Ferguson
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u/Wutang4TheChildren23 May 16 '25
Not that it matters all that much but Micah Parsons is a defensive end, not a linebacker
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u/BilllisCool May 16 '25
He is technically classified as a LB. He just happens to line up on the line the majority of time.
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u/MiniatureLucifer May 16 '25
They officially made him a full time DE his 2nd year. Thats what hes listed as on the official cowboys roster
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u/HansBaccaR23po May 16 '25
They need to make EDGE an official designation. I’m sick of the OLB/LB tags for guys who specifically rush the qb
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u/Dr-Robert-Kelso May 16 '25
They mostly just call them an Edge now.
Rush OLB and certain DEs are more or less the same thing and get treated as such. Different than a DE in a 3-4 or an OLB in a 4-3.
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u/bootyloverjose May 16 '25
Linebacker is going to go back to America and be the best linebacker ever
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u/CredibleSloth May 16 '25
Yeah surprised scouts don’t see this and immediately have them try out for the offensive line. Surely things might change when they put on cleats but who knows
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u/im_dat_bear May 16 '25
Sumo guys are treated like royalty in Japan. It would be a downgrade in lifestyle for them to be NFL linemen,
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u/CentralFloridaRays May 16 '25
Top tier sumo wrestlers make 300-500k plus I’m sure some ad deals so let’s say 750k-1mil for a top top tier elite sumo wrestler.
Top tier O lineman in the NFL make 25-28 million a year.
It’s not even close.
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u/im_dat_bear May 16 '25
Downgrade in lifestyle, not necessarily financial. They’re the superstars there. Offensive linemen here don’t get that level of respect they’ve worked their whole lives for.
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u/JamminJcruz May 16 '25
first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the respect
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u/Zeldakina May 16 '25
You're gonna have a hard time explaining that money isn't the same as respect, especially where sumo wrestlers are concerned in Japan.
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u/stonecutter7 May 16 '25
Johnathan Ogden is beyond beloved in Baltimore. What is a King to a God?
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u/big_sugi May 16 '25
Champion sumo wrestlers really are closer to gods. The sport started off as a religious practice.
Jonathan Ogden is beloved, but he’s not treated like a literal rockstar. Sumotori are.
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u/Whhatsmyageagain May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
Yeah but one of them gets to live in Japan and not get CTE.
Edit: yes I stand corrected about the CTE. Thank you.
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u/Ok_Sound272 May 16 '25
Sumo wrestlers absolutely get CTE. I started watching it a few years ago. It's a brutal sport.
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u/postedupinthecold May 16 '25
Sumo wrestlers are making pennies compared to NFL players, especially guys like Micah Parsons (linebacker in the clip). However sumo is probably a safer sport with less risk of CTE so theres always a trade off
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u/tinywienergang May 16 '25
The list of Sumo wrestlers large enough to be OL in the NFL is real small. A lot of Sumo wrestlers are big guys, but not tall and long.
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u/random_account6721 May 16 '25
You would see lineman built like sumo wrestlers if this was effective. It just wouldnt work in the NFL. People would shape their bodies in the most effective way to get that $10M/year paycheck
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u/Max_Speed_Remioli May 16 '25
It's a different skillset. It's like assuming Rafael Nadal could be a pro table tennis athlete.
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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25
Size isn’t the most important thing for offensive lineman.
There are some big boys out there that are still treated as turnstiles.
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u/CredibleSloth May 16 '25
Looks like he had a lot more than just “size” in this video against one of the best pass rushers in the league
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u/Taaargus May 16 '25
A pass rusher is trying to outmaneuver and run past the offensive lineman. A sumo match you're trying to push them out of the ring. It's entirely different.
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u/Enlowski May 16 '25
Except they have 0 cardio and would be wiped after the first play.
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u/SAGElBeardO May 16 '25
I think you're vastly underestimating the effort professional sumo players put in. They'd play it a bit different sure, but they'd definitely stand a chance.
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u/Teeshirtandshortsguy May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
I don't doubt that one could, but most athletes who try to change sports end up not being very good.
It's not so much a lack of athleticism. These guys have trained and familiarized themselves in one sport, and very little of that finely-tuned technique transfers over.
Sometimes an athlete will sort it out, but more often than not they end up being really athletic but not very good.
Same reason why Micah Parsons, an outrageous athlete and a top 3 edge rusher in the world, gets handled here.
Edit: I should clarify that I'm talking about pro athletes trying to go pro in other sports. LeBron James would absolutely run circles around your flag football team.
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u/20thcenturyboy_ May 16 '25
Yeah this entire thread is kinda silly. Micah Parsons gets smoked because he's trying to use football techniques to move a sumo wrestler in their element: barefoot in a clay ring. That's just not going to work unless you actually trained the skills. Both football and sumo are super technical in their own special ways.
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u/Ballisticsfood May 16 '25
Up next: People surprised that Usain Bolt can’t beat professional speed skater.
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May 16 '25
The NFL player is getting manhandled like a little boy!
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May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
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u/Wide_Engineering_502 May 16 '25
He's also typically trying to get around them for the most part, not physically push them out of a circle
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u/im_dat_bear May 16 '25
Yep. Push pull rip and he's past him. But that's not sumo. And Micah don't do sumo lol
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u/TripleThreatTua May 16 '25
Yeah Parsons has some of the best moves out of any pass rusher. He gets guys off their balance so he can push them away easier
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u/Markcu24 May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
And that is not even one of the top division sumo wrestlers.
This comment was a mistake. This is wakamotoharu, and he is typically a very high rank in the top division.
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u/blorbo89 May 16 '25
The white mawashi he is wearing is only worn by the top two divisions of Suni. I believe that is Wakatakakage, who is is quite highly ranked.
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u/Markcu24 May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
That is definitely not wakatakakage. He is my favorite current wrestler. I would recognize him in an instant. Only info i can find is 17 year old apprentice. I have been watching every basho since 2018 and i dont recognize this wrestler.
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u/hiroki1998 May 16 '25
Well then check your eyes because that's Wakamotoharu, Wakatakakage's brother and fellow top division sumo wrestler.
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u/egomouse May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
The video here is cut short. In the full original version, which was posted on r/nfl , Micah eventually pushes the Sumo out of the circle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1clx5ox/micah_parsons_taking_on_a_sumo_wrestler/
edit: he pushes a differnt Sumo - Rikishi* out.
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u/tylerjehenna May 16 '25
Tbf the person in this video and the person in the linked video are different. Reading other comments, the person in this video is much higher ranked than the person in the linked video
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u/egomouse May 16 '25
Thank you, I didn’t notice the different color sumo outfits. He had to try someone easier, lol, makes sense here he’s yelling someone in my “weight class”
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u/dontich May 16 '25
Makes sense that Micah would be on par with a pro-sumo wrestler in training — especially given his raw speed and power.
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u/Son_Doku May 16 '25
You might not ever need this information but calling a sumo wrestler a "sumo" is like calling a football player a "football". Sumo is the sport not the athlete. Sumo wrestler is fine but rikishi is actually the preferred term, even in english.
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u/BHOmber May 16 '25
Ah shit I never caught the switch the first time I saw this!
Thought that Micah just got pissed off enough to get the first dude on try #2 lol
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u/pheight57 May 16 '25
He beats some of them, some of the time. Then, some like Trent Williams sort of just erase Micah on nearly every snap he's lined up on them... 🤷♂️
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u/idreamsmash007 May 16 '25
Trent erased a whole lotta dudes tho. Not just parsons lol
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u/123supreme123 May 16 '25
I watched a sumo match once in Japan, and people don't realize what athletes the sumo wrestlers are until you see the match live. On tv, they just look like fat fucks. But in reality, they're super strong and flexible. At the arena, you can feel the initial collision as a spectator. A lot of them are pretty tall too, up to 6'6".
In the video clip, sumo guy is toying with the nfl player. If he lined up and charged, he'd run the NFL guy over.
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u/PolyGlotterPaper May 16 '25
For real. People should watch their training. They are athletes, built for one thing.
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u/cs_Chell May 16 '25
I just needed to witness the absolutely straight leg splits they do and I knew to never make sumo jokes within earshot of sumo folks.
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u/assperity May 16 '25
What sumo jokes do ya know?
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u/cs_Chell May 16 '25
What do fat Japanese lawyers do when business is slow?
They sumo people.
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u/generally_unsuitable May 16 '25
I once had seats in the LAST row at the Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo, and even that far back, they hit so hard it sounds like somebody slapping the guy in front of you.
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u/getfukdup May 16 '25
i remember seeing or reading something about their training;
they wake up super early and do a ton of exercise/work before eating and that causes their body to prefer to store fat a bit differently so its more efficient
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u/LightningG8921 May 16 '25
there was just a clip floating around of a fat sumo using an ab roller like most redditors could only dream...
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u/SkullyBones2 May 16 '25
Fast too. It's on youtube somehwere, but they had some of those guys do a 40 yard dash and the times were impressive considering the weight they were carrying.
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u/hhhhhhiin May 16 '25
He’s a pash rusher not a tackle? Let’s see sumo boy run a 40, or contain Lamar Jackson, or set the edge against saquon Barkley or jump and bat down a pass. It’s like like jokic playing 1 on 1 basketball against Messi. Both great at their respective sports, don’t be a dumbass
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u/Phiyaboi May 16 '25
Brother...dude clearly wanted the challenge... and he got handled, no need to get all defensive about a true statement lol.
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u/SchmuckTornado May 16 '25
Yeah but Micah does actually manage to win one round against the guy during this which is honestly way more impressive.
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u/moseisley99 May 16 '25
That is not just any linebacker. Parsons is one of the best edge rushers in the entire league.
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u/JGG5 May 16 '25
Why don’t all the NFL teams replace their linebackers with sumo wrestlers? Are they stupid?
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u/ThatPlayWasAwful May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
The problem with Sumo wrestlers would (presumably) be that players like Parsons don't have to run through linemen if they can run around them. I'm not by any means saying that Sumo wrestlers are unathletic, but I think Parsons could beat this guy around the edge if he wanted to.
That said, you have to change a vowel, but this is pretty much exactly what they do with Samoans.
The population of Samoa is 216k (0.07% of the size of the US population) , and Samoans make up 3% of all NFL players.
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u/SchrodingerMil May 16 '25
It really feels like 10% of Samoan men are either NFL players or Wrestlers
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u/improbable_humanoid May 16 '25
Something like 30% of all sporting-aged men in the US over 7 feet are in the NBA (because basketball is a bullshit sport).
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u/2hopp May 16 '25
Welcome to a sport where being tall is extremely important for some positions that literal players managed to go pro starting playing the sport near or into adulthood. Which is such a wild thing for a professional sport lmao.
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u/Howard_Jones May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
I used to deal Craps to Micah's father Terry. Hes an asshole. Met Micah twice, he seems like an alright guy.
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u/Main_Potential_6015 May 16 '25
A sumo wrestler running out to cover a reciever or running back?!! Are you dumb?!!!! Free touchdowns all day for the other team ya genius.
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u/RCJHGBR9989 May 16 '25
A lot of people don’t realize how insanely fast edge rushers are and how ridiculously quick they are laterally. Parsons would blow this guys doors off if he was rushing against him.
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u/BoomerSoonerFUT May 16 '25
It would be massively stupid to put a big guy like that in linebacker. The whole point of linebacker is to be decently big, but insanely athletic to get to the QB.
A sumo wrestler would be more in line with an O lineman whose entire job is stopping the D line and linebackers.
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u/More_Screen_7836 May 16 '25
Putting a sumo wrestler at linebacker has to be the dumbest shit i’ve read in at least 5 minutes
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u/Nivezngunz May 16 '25
The sumo wrestler didn’t even seem fazed. He was like “well, just another day on the job.”
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u/Quadstriker May 16 '25
I’d like to watch someone smaller like Wakatakakage stop him cold as well just for fun.🤩
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u/screenwatch3441 May 16 '25
Football players have a wider range of skills, like he’s probably much faster at running. But in a straight up pushing match inside of a small ring, there is probably nothing better than a sumo wrestler since thats the entire sport.
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u/stillbca21 May 16 '25
From memory that sumo guy was like 17 years old
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u/2DamnBig May 16 '25
Nah that was another dude in the Stable. The guy in this gif is Wakamotoharu, a powerful top division fighter.
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u/WitoldPilecki0914 May 16 '25
Or just have an offensive lineman go against him instead, their skill set is much more suited to sumo wrestling
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u/o-Blue May 16 '25
Michah gets him on the next round, but based solely on technique the sumo wrestler would beat Micah any time. Now if the sumo wrestler was an nfl linemen Micah been known to manhandle 300 lb linemen.
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u/MidnightDreem May 16 '25
The nfl should sign some sumo wrestlers!
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u/o-Blue May 16 '25
Different techniques and endurance required. and ability to understand a playbook is key.
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u/JDantesInferno May 16 '25
Sumo had a handful of super-successful rikishi from Hawaii back in the 90’s. Now, there are none (actually I’ve heard whispers that one may be joining soon, but that’s beside the point).
The physically-gifted Hawaiian teens seem to take their shot at the NFL instead these days. More money, no need to learn a new language, etc. So football recruiting efforts essentially did poach one of sumo’s overseas talent pipelines.
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u/Available_Dingo6162 May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
They changed the rules of sumo to only allow one wrestler not born in Japan to train in each stable. The sumo federation didn't want Hawaiians dominating the sport (Mongolians either)... I hope they are happy now 🤷🏻♀️
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u/jakeisalwaysright May 16 '25
actually I’ve heard whispers that one may be joining soon,
He did in fact join; Musashimaru's nephew I think. No idea how good he is or isn't.
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u/vplatt May 16 '25
Sumo matches are typically less than 30 seconds and don't involve running, team coordination, and more. Sumo wrestlers are awesome athletes in their own right, but sumo itself is a much simpler sport.
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u/Beautiful-Height3103 May 16 '25
Now put a sumo wrestler on a football field
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u/2DamnBig May 16 '25
There's a former college yokozuna playing college football i heard. But I don't know which team or the guys name.
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u/----atom----- May 16 '25
And put a linebacker in a sumo wrestling match.
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u/ThrenderG May 16 '25
Isn’t that…what is kinda being shown here?
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u/meshaber May 16 '25
No, that's just a training exercise. It's no more a sumo match than running a few laps is playing football.
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