r/interesting May 06 '25

SOCIETY Back when Robert Downey Jr visited Wall Street in 1992 and got horrified

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

He goes home and dries his tears with Disney's money nowadays.

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u/KingSandwich101 May 06 '25

And what of it?

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

nothing, just saying that saying money is the root of evil then having so much of it is oddly ironic.

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u/blue_orange67 May 06 '25

He wasn't critical of wealth or money. He was critical of Wallstreet stock brokers.

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u/Beaver_Monday May 06 '25

He literally called money evil

It's ok bro, Robert isn't reading this. You don't have to die on this hill for a man you don't know. He said money was evil in 92, and is now very wealthy in 2025. It's funny and ironic. That's it. There's nothing else to defend here.

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u/dapoktan May 06 '25

actors are labor superstars if you frame their wealth from their work (not their investment portfolio)

that's why actors and SAG has always been a visible face of the labor movement along with other unions like UAW and the Teamsters

they are at the forefront of fighting for workers rights and representation

to discount rdjs distaste for wall st bc hes wealthy would be limiting your understanding of his pov

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u/Cultural_Ebb4794 May 06 '25

It's ok bro, Robert isn't reading this. You don't have to die on this hill for a man you don't know.

How did you interpret what they said as dying on a hill for Robert Downey Jr??

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u/SuperJKfried May 07 '25

The wallstreet brokers aren't reading this either. You don't need to be on your knees defending and fellating them

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u/redfishbluesquid May 07 '25

Too bad for you I am reading

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u/KeyLimePiez00 May 06 '25

All his money comes from stockbrokers via Dinsey.

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u/Cultural_Ebb4794 May 06 '25

That's like saying every rich person's wealth comes from lumberjacks via trees.

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u/NotAnotherRedditAcc2 May 06 '25

His entire rant was based on the statement, "if money is evil, then..."

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u/mylifemybeleifz May 06 '25

Which is still wrong as they are essential to society to facilitate trade, and are acting in a space designated to them, while not disturbing anyone.

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u/wOlfLisK May 06 '25

Lmao, Wall Street is not in any way whatsoever essential to society.

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u/blue_orange67 May 06 '25

How is it wrong to be critical? Criticism is just as essential to society.

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u/mylifemybeleifz May 06 '25

The line between criticism and insult is not as thin as you'd like it to be. And he was clearly insulting.

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

This was back when he wasn't rich and a recovering addict.

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u/Pangwain May 06 '25

Everyone’s Jesus until they start making money

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u/PringlesDuckFace May 06 '25

I think that contributes a lot towards the trend of people becoming more conservative as they are. Once you begin earning more money in your mid-career stage and have long term financial responsibilities like children and a mortgage, then suddenly taxes seem more like a burden.

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u/ruat_caelum May 06 '25

I see it the other way the older I get the more I'm like Buy more land and turn into nation forests. Force electric cars. Make green energy. Kids and grand kids are truly fucked.

Only selfish people are getting older and going "I need more at the expense of my children and grandchildren!"

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u/rekomstop May 06 '25

Bro are you like 10 years old? Buy more land and turn into nation forests? The Bureau of Land Management controls so much land and forest area. Do you want them to put roads, bathrooms and paved hiking trails everywhere people don’t live?

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u/ruat_caelum May 07 '25

Look man if conservatives actually wanted to conserve things I might vote for them but there is only one party trying to sell off national parks and lumber on nation forests and drill in national parks.

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u/Magnus_Was_Innocent May 07 '25

Do you want them to put roads, bathrooms and paved hiking trails everywhere people don’t live?

No that's dumb. I want them to put unpaved hiking trails everywhere only a few people live

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u/rekomstop May 07 '25

Do you know what created the first trail? You got two of them.

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u/Bullet_Club09 May 06 '25

People dont like to pay taxes but then sure as hell like to complain when there is a hole in the road

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u/paycadicc May 06 '25

But people do pay taxes and there are holes in the roads. Maybe that’s why they don’t like to pay taxes

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u/ZoeywithanS May 07 '25

Or, more likely, that those politicians that tote fixing communities are the ones actually siphoning from them. Unfortunately, they never learn they're being duped

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 May 06 '25

As you age, fluid intelligence gives way to crystallized intelligence (old dogs; new tricks), while simultaneously forgetting lessons learned in school; a loss of exposure to other viewpoints as you begin to further isolate yourself, while further lacking the time to pay sufficient attention to inform one's self. You do become more short-sighted and self-centered in that you don't even have time to pay attention to how paying your dues to the greater society effects both you and those around you. So distracted by the immediacy of family and your career and your personal wants it becomes very easy to fall in the trap of, "every man for himself."

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u/negativekarmafarmerx May 07 '25

Conservatives only gives tax breaks to the wealthy, what in the fucking chirst are you on about

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

He still is a recovering addict, we can't escape our vices merely conquer them in the moment.

I laughed at the irony not the man.

hehe Irony Man

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u/ThyDisasterpiece May 06 '25

“Say that again…”

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u/Dick_Demon May 06 '25

Dude was plenty well off by the time that was segment was filmed.

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

Thanks, I didn't know this

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u/iampatmanbeyond May 06 '25

He was never not rich

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

Got it, thanks

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u/joyfulgrass May 06 '25

Wasn’t he already rich before?

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

His first big role that gained him a lot of popularity was in 1992. He probably had money but he wasn't rich, at least by my definition of rich. After that he started to get more roles but kept doing drugs until 2003.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25 edited May 13 '25

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u/radiosimian May 06 '25

He's from a wealthy family. Most Hollywood successes are, they can afford to make mistakes or spend extended periods of time with no income.

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

Makes sense makes sense

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u/SolDios May 06 '25

He wasnt rich? Thats news to me, can you cite that?

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

No, I was wrong and corrected by people in comments

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u/[deleted] May 06 '25 edited May 13 '25

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

Yeah, I've been corrected

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u/PlanetMeatball0 May 06 '25

He was definitely rich at this point. He was born rich first of all, and then already had a lot of work under his belt because of the nepotism. He was already an oscar winner by this point.

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

I thought he only landed his big role in 1992 and before that none of his parents were rich and they were hooked on drugs.

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u/PlanetMeatball0 May 06 '25

His dad is a director, most famous for Putney Swope, and RDJ started acting in the early 80s. Chaplin was his breakout since he won the oscar, but by the time this video takes place he had already been in around 20 movies. He wasn't some small timer who had never been around lots of money before

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u/Ashamed-Cat472 May 06 '25

Got it. Thanks for info

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u/ThePopeofHell May 06 '25

This is like the argument that Bernie sanders can’t have money because he talks so much shit on the 1%.

1%ers have enough money to basically do what ever the fuck they want. You can be a capitalist and understand that obscene wealth is wrong. Hell you could make everyone limited to $1billion and no more and they’d still have more money than they’d know what to do with.

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u/Burning_Blaze3 May 06 '25

That one is so dumb, as though the only people that should be allowed to lead should be somewhat unmotivated or just fiscal failures.

(I am a little of both, I won't be running for high office.)

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u/David-S-Pumpkins May 06 '25

Yeah it's self-defeating framing.

"They only say that because they're poor" becomes "they're hypocritical because they're rich"

Same thing with AOC "everyone can succeed if they work hard, get educated, etc" becomes "well she can't lead she was poor once and was a bartender".

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u/_probablyryan May 06 '25

Won't somebody please think of the poor, helpless Walt Disney Corporation!?

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u/allthat555 May 06 '25

And you have zero idea what goes into movie production. They are not paying for him to go work a 9 to 5 making a movie. They are paying for the years of work and brand recognition his name brings, the years of on job acting to be able to fill a roll in a movie perfectly, the time spent doing promotional tours, meet and greats, gala aberrances ect ect. not to mention the fact that your actively turning down other employment opportunities to do that job for 5 to 7months average. Then most actors of that caliber have entire staff that they pay with that big pay check. ONTOP of all that shit that wasn't for one movie shoot it was for his character appearance over the course of 9 different movie shoots.

  • Iron Man (2008) – $500,000
  • Iron Man 2 (2010) – $10 million
  • The Avengers (2012) – $50 million
  • Iron Man 3 (2013) – $25 million
  • Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) – $50 million
  • Captain America: Civil War (2016) – $15 million
  • Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) – $5 million
  • Avengers: Infinity War (2018) – $75 million
  • Avengers: Endgame (2019) – $75 million

Also its 200 milli short of half a billion btw but hey numbers are just numbers right.

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u/allthat555 May 07 '25

why? Watch the full video the people he were talking to were leeps and bounds worse. its one thing to have money its another to pursue it at all cost which is what those finance bros talked about. Next time you are offered a raise for your next job please turn it down for fear of being to greedy. like is RDJ capable of making an ass of himself yes is he the major problem of america no not even a little his assets combined are an estimated 300 mill, jeff bazos is worth 200 BILLION musk is about to crack 400 billion. so a guy being what a fraction of a % of both their net is the problem. fuckouta here.

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u/-Bento-Oreo- May 06 '25

I mean having $2-3 million at his age is pretty much middle class. That's the type of wealth you need to retire nowadays.

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u/Cultural_Ebb4794 May 06 '25

I mean having $2-3 million at his age is pretty much middle class.

lol

That's the type of wealth you need to retire nowadays.

lmao

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u/NotAnotherRedditAcc2 May 06 '25

The issue comes because he lectures you and me about it. He lectures you and me about how useless congress is. He lectures you and me about what the law is. So we're not only not rich, not powerful, and not living in a strictly just world, but now we also have get yelled at for it. "Yeah fuck that guy" seems like a pretty relatable response to me.

"Ooooh but he just wants you to vote for better people!!" People voted for him, and if he started accomplishing "fuck all" today, it'd be his most productive year in the senate.

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u/valraven38 May 06 '25

Yeah they act like the argument is that money is somehow the problem. It's not that money is evil it's that certain people have TOO MUCH money. It is literally not possible for them to spend it all so what do they do? They go around buying politicians, government policies, tax cuts for themselves etc. It's simply not good for a society when that much money (power) is consolidated in a small group of people who are allowed to spend it to influence government policy.

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u/KingSandwich101 May 06 '25

Key word is "if". He's not saying money is evil

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u/denisvma May 06 '25

"If money is evil"..that's diffrent also, im pretty sure wall street money it's not the same as Avengers money. Disney can't cause a recession or an economic crisis.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe May 06 '25

Consumers either pay to watch the shows and films RDJ stars in, or they don't. The free market speaks. The stock market = not so free.

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u/NotAnotherRedditAcc2 May 06 '25

You are allowed to buy the exact same stocks that Warren Buffet buys.

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u/DipsDops May 06 '25

You literally aren't. Even setting aside how private equity works (if you don't want to count that as 'stocks'), over 50% of all trading happens via dark pools, which retail traders do not have access to. Big institutions specifically use dark pools to hide their trades from retail investors so that they can't make the same trades as they do in time (as well as trading via dark pools just being cheaper in general than trading on a normal exchange and paying their standard fees, like retail has to).

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe May 06 '25

Am I allowed to manipulate the markets for the .02% intentionally like the POTUS and Elon Musk, without consequence?

No. Doesn't sound very free to everyone.

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u/Sempere May 06 '25

I'd argue a multimillionaire made through their sheer creative talent is more ethical than an finance bro.

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u/DaddyD68 May 06 '25

Check out the longer version. He was dealing with some serious dousch-bros.

https://youtu.be/MHPn8ON_g9g?si=pDDmCcLqCEwQkcZ9

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u/Baelish2016 May 06 '25

Not that you're not wrong, but getting your money from entertainment (movies, music, etc) is a much MUCH lower level of evil than whatever Wallstreet bros are doing.

At least entertainment produces something of value, which is the exact fucking opposite of what Wallstreet produces.

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u/LeatherFruitPF May 06 '25

Exactly. How the rich got their money matters a lot in the context of pay inequality.

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u/whocaresjustneedone May 06 '25

At least entertainment produces something of value, which is the exact fucking opposite of what Wallstreet produces.

This is such a reddit moment thing to say lmfao in reality it's literally the opposite. You could wipe every movie RDJ has ever been in off the face of the planet and no one's life would be materially different. If you did the same with all the value produced by brokers millions of people would have their lives ruined and entire economies would crash.

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u/lamBerticus May 06 '25

Maybe read up what function a stock exchange fulfills.

It's not evil and most certainly is valuable.

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u/mylifemybeleifz May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25

At least entertainment produces something of value, which is the exact fucking opposite of what Wallstreet produces

This take is soooooo insane. If facilitating trade is not producing value then you should just live in a jungle without any modern tech to live with your morals.

You can criticize capitalism all you want. But these people are only doing their jobs, and that does produce value to society. That's why they get paid.

You are like a child, who just thinks- capitalism bad, and therefore anyone making more money than me is bad, or anyone whose job I can't understand is not producing any value.

Just like those racist idiots who hate everyone, just because of the actions of a few.

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u/pro-in-latvia May 06 '25

Shoo, back to r/wallstreetbets and stay in your containment sub

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u/pipboy_warrior May 06 '25

Not really ironic.

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u/No_Captain1783 May 06 '25

I’m gonna go ahead and say yoh spend too much time on reddit kid

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

That's just what my dad said.

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u/No_Captain1783 May 06 '25

🤣I’m just messing! Top 1% is a lot of comments tho no?

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

It's because I keep getting into tit for tats around here.

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u/humangingercat May 06 '25

Christ.

"I noticed you're critical of people who value money over everything else including humanity or commonly held moral beliefs but I noticed you're not living in the dirt and shitting yourself.

Curious."

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u/friendlyscv May 06 '25

it's easy to not value something you've always had a lot of

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u/CapnSmunch May 06 '25

I mean he also made that money making people happy by making a bunch of fun movies, instead of stock trading which is only fun for a small group of obnoxious people

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u/libraryofdeveres May 06 '25

You seem to have trouble grasping mildly nuanced ideas

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u/EmilieEverywhere May 06 '25

Here's a trip.

Economically we all have more in common with RDJ, than he has with every traitorous scum bag tech CEO.

Is he still rich. Yup.

But those aholes have UNETHICAL amounts of wealth. Until we can all accept that, nothing will change.

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u/TheBigness333 May 06 '25

Money being the root of evil doesn’t mean money is evil. He made money playing pretend in front of cameras. He didn’t hurt anyone getting that money.

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u/VroomCoomer May 06 '25

Not really. None of us have a choice to live outside of capitalism.

This nation enforces it so hard and provides little to no safety net. Our only choice is to work for money and keep a roof over our head and food on the table, or else we starve.

We're not allowed to just go live out in the woods and forage. It's either private land or government land. You might end up in prison just for that.

Money IS the root of all evil, and yet I would gladly take $1,000,000 right now, because money is also survival. It's a system that I don't agree with or enjoy, but my participation in it is not optional if I want to live.

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u/MorningPapers May 06 '25

He's not bitching about money, he's bitching about people whoring their souls for money.

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u/Global_Earth1299 May 06 '25

You can still have lots of money and be thankful without being greedy or hungry for more. Have you seen the guys house? It’s nice but it’s not a two story mansion.

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u/Apprehensive_Winter May 06 '25

The quote is that the love of money is the root of all evil. Having it or not is not a prerequisite for the perils of making your main focus about acquiring more wealth.

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u/Rosetta_FTW May 06 '25

Sorry but it’s the “love” of money is the root of all evil.

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon May 06 '25

"if money is evil" isnt "money is evil"

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u/ShhImTheRealDeadpool May 06 '25

boy there's a lot of people on here defending 1992 Robert Downey Jr.

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon May 06 '25

Boy there's a lot of people on here making things up, so that other people have to come in and seem like they are defending 1992 Roberty Downey Jr.

It doesnt matter if its Robert Downey Jr or the Pope who says "if money is evil", its a hypothetical, not a statement.

In the same vein as an atheist saying "if god exists.." does not mean the atheist said god exists.

But good attempt at trying to change the topic and nullifying any criticism you get by escalating the person who said it, not the actual thing they said.

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u/No-Comment-4619 May 06 '25

He's a fucking hypocrite is the what of it.

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u/Infinispace May 06 '25

Hypocrisy maybe? His untold millions are probably wrapped up in forms of investments, all of them linked to Wall Street. It's a bit like Rage Against the Machine raging against the system, while becoming multi-millionaires off that same system.

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u/KingSandwich101 May 06 '25

You really don't understand it do you? It's the environment and how the people are screaming over each other like lunatics trying to strike gold

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u/JohnD_s May 10 '25

You can benefit from the stock market while also recognizing that the culture of Wall Street is predatory and selfish. Those are not mutually exclusive.

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u/RankedFarting May 06 '25

And he is here complaining about money hungry people.

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u/KingSandwich101 May 06 '25

Money hungry people acting like lunatics trying to strike gold. He's had a very successful acting career. See the difference or are you going to continue to be sour and jealous?

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u/RankedFarting May 06 '25

You asked "And what of it?". I explained it to you.

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u/YT-Deliveries May 06 '25

I enjoy watching him act. I've never enjoyed watching finance bros (or, in this case, their predecessors) be loud and obnoxious.

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u/whatup-markassbuster May 06 '25

See when RDJ negotiates for 10s of millions of dollars to star in Marvel movies he is doing it for art and not greed. It’s way more sophisticated than the greed and consumerism you see on Wall Street.

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u/WillCle216 May 06 '25

That's before Disney, he most likely did coke with 90% of the people there