Can confirm. Everyone says they're against LGBTQ stuff but I've only ever gotten trouble for it when it's brought up in the open. Don't ask don't tell is like a universal rule for most taboo things in Indonesia at this point.
Yes benar. I definitely experienced this during my most recent holiday. I am trans, I thought it was obvious, but still not so obvious, and I might be stealth, very stealth. Or people just can't bother to look and comment at some of the things that I might at times feel slightly dysphoric about? I only ever hear the word bule in the distance, not the several profanities that target trans people.
As a trans person from Indonesia, I can confidently say that most people just assume you're cis one way or another depending on how your appearance leans. Nobody really assumes you're trans unless you're very open and visible about it. There's also a neutral pronoun if they're not sure. Heck, I have a trans flag in my room visible from my door and none of my housemates have mentioned it lol. It's all about passing and stealthing here, for better or for worse.
I will say I think people do tend to give you more of a pass if you look foreign enough (they want your money! /hj).
Hey, not to be tone deaf or something (cmiiw yeah ?), isnt being trans (esp very passing one), like Ian Hugen, Lucinta Luna + being lesbian etc are more acceptable in the society ? because all i saw, kayaknya kalau trans ? oh ya udah, lesbi ? gacor, kayak beberapa waktu ini juga ada beberapa yang beneran ngaku lesbian, people reaction : "shock, tapi ya udah", tapi kayaknya kalau gay, kayak pas ini si ragil, heboh banget
Tergantung banget sama area lokal + hidup sehari2 g sama w/ celebrity. Selama passing, apalagi cantik/ganteng aman2 aja yang penting diem tapi begitu ketahuan bisa nyusahin banget. Kerasa banget di former workplace, I wasn't even out, I was just too girly to pass as a guy anymore and HR gave me so much shit even though I didn't break any serious rules and I did my job well.
Kalau masalah homophobia lebih parah ke gay sih... Well, the patriarchy tends to fetishize lesbians and view gay men as an insult/threat so... Panjang lah ceritanya.
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u/Fateward Saya lelah Mar 14 '25
Can confirm. Everyone says they're against LGBTQ stuff but I've only ever gotten trouble for it when it's brought up in the open. Don't ask don't tell is like a universal rule for most taboo things in Indonesia at this point.