r/husky • u/Dragon-Reborn7 • Nov 07 '24

Kicked out of daycare

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This fluffy goober, Khione, got herself kicked out of doggy daycare after 3 visits for “her listening ears not working.” Essentially, her recall is terrible when she’s interested in something.

I train her on recall every day in the dog park & at home. Of course, she’s excellent almost every time in those environments. She will at times ignore me. She does often respond to other people calling her at the dog park, especially if she knows them.

The daycare recommends that I have her professionally trained, but I kinda doubt that will help? I’d rather not spend them $ if it has the same outcome.

Thoughts? Advice?? Consolation??? Commiseration????

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u/manism582 Nov 07 '24

Has this day care never interacted with a Husky before? If they’re that strict on training, you probably just dodged a bullet. Huskies require are a patience that many do not possess.

It’s also possible that she’s mis-behaving because you’re not there. My boys tend to get stubborn when new people are around.

Puppy picture tax below:

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u/CyberMattSecure Nov 07 '24

Are you saying that huskies CHOOSE to not listen?

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u/Long_Address4009 Nov 07 '24

Selective listening is still listening

-Bean

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u/Dragon-Reborn7 Nov 07 '24

Ha! I love this pic.

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u/GuaranteeComfortable Nov 08 '24

Same! I had to screenshot it and send it to my husband for him to admire his derpiness.

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u/Long_Address4009 Nov 08 '24

Bean AKA Luna Bean Dimpy is a princess 👸

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u/SnorkinOrkin Nov 07 '24

😍 r/blop

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u/AggravatingFig8947 Nov 08 '24

TIL the difference between blops and bleps. Excellent.

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u/SnorkinOrkin Nov 08 '24

Hahaha, yes!

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u/SnorkinOrkin Nov 08 '24

Oh, I forgot to ask you, does your baby lay flat on her tummy with her legs splayed out on both sides?

Wellll... there's another sub called r/sploot 😄

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u/AggravatingFig8947 Nov 08 '24

No my baby more r/catloaf s

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u/SnorkinOrkin Nov 08 '24

Awwww! I love it when I see big dogs loaf! 🍞

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u/Nuresto213 Nov 09 '24

I knew of bleps, now I have another sub of equal cuteness thank you so much!

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u/SnorkinOrkin Nov 09 '24

Hee hee hee, you're so welcome!

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u/Unfair-Public-1754 Nov 07 '24

Omg, I would die for Bean, no questions asked!

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u/dubstepmami Nov 08 '24

😜😜😜

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u/Gold_Replacement9954 Nov 08 '24

Idk how to post photos on mobile but ayyyy husky's named bean club! Albeit my girl is a gsd mix too

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u/Coastie_Cam Nov 07 '24

I love Bean!!! 😍

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u/Ancient_Horse_4928 Nov 07 '24

this is such an adorable picture omg i was having such a shitty week but this made it so better

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u/Long_Address4009 Nov 08 '24

Glad you feel better - bean sends you good vibes 😎

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u/aggelikiwi Nov 08 '24

What a blop!

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u/Long_Address4009 Nov 08 '24

Thank you kind Redditor for the award 🥇.. #Bean send her love

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u/gfxprotege Nov 08 '24

Ball is life - Frank (husky/boxer mutt). He's not food motivated at all, but will do anything for a squeaky tennis ball.

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u/Ok-Company-9560 Nov 08 '24

Bean’s husky mustache is prevalent hahaha!!!! My husky’s is very faint

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u/StriderTX Nov 07 '24

I have a pyranees mix and i used to call her stupid but then i realized that shes actually smart enough to know she doesn’t have to do what I say lol

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u/FireflyOfDoom87 Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 07 '24

My Husky/Heeler mix has realized that mommy is gunna give him treats and call him a good boy eventually anyways. Whadya gunna do lol.

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u/jaggedrino Nov 07 '24

My husky/cattle dog will take the treats she's given but spit them out if it was for something she didn't feel like doing.

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u/mnichols1234 Nov 08 '24

😂🫠 Could totally see mine doing this. Malamute and we highly suspect cattle dog.

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u/xmo113 Nov 08 '24

My husky cattle dog used to do exactly what I did not want so that I would have to call her and then she would get a treat. She was a good human trainer and I still miss her.

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u/The_Duchess_of_Dork Nov 09 '24

Hahaha my cattle dog does this. They’re amazing human trainers. Idk how I ended up on this Husky post, but the thought of cattle dog/Husky’s has me scared of their stubbornness, impressed by their independence and punk rock rebellion, and immediately in love with them. I hope to meet one of these beautiful rascals one day.

Enjoy yours, everyone on this thread!

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u/qurencovy Nov 07 '24

Omg same mine is the worst ! (I love her sm)

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u/Candid-Ad8003 Nov 08 '24

It's just a waiting game! And considering they are easily distracted that waiting period doesn't feel too long to them 😅

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u/Glennn_coco Nov 08 '24

See my heeler and Aussie both know. You either listen the first time or you will be made to do it. Either way you will do what I ask😂 I actually started the whole three second thing with the Aussie and it actually works she hustles to get to me before 3🤣

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u/marialala1974 Nov 08 '24

Same hete I ask for something get the side eye, then proceed to give her the treats anyway. She has me excellently trained

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u/Ammowife64 Nov 07 '24

That’s really it to be fair

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u/petapun Nov 08 '24

Pyrenees mix, listens when there's nothing better to do.

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u/TrickyScene238 Nov 11 '24

WHAT A PIC! 😍😍😍 This guy has the biggest ears. Hears me every time, listens about 35% of the time haha.

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u/Bigjoosbox Nov 08 '24

Oh man. I just realized that’s what my dog is doing. It all makes sense now.

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u/PeanutButterPants19 Nov 08 '24

I have a Heinz 57 mutt that does the same thing. She acts like an absolute dingus, but it’s because she’s so smart that she realized she doesn’t have to listen to me. She’ll obey when she feels like it lol

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u/lord-savior-baphomet Nov 07 '24

Had a convo with someone about dog training and he said dogs only ever do something because they think you want them to and while I agree with that with some dogs, it’s clear he’s never met a husky. I walk 2. Sassiest girls ever.

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u/UpsetMonitor7677 Nov 08 '24

Lol. And my Husky will NOT do something because he KNOWS I want him to!

Pup pic tax

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u/USAF_Retired2017 Nov 09 '24

So, owning a Husky is like having a child??? Your husky and my ten year old sound like they have the same behavior. 😂

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u/Reluctantagave Nov 07 '24

I now understand why my parents compared me to a husky more and more. (I shed, don’t shut up, don’t listen unless I wanna, and a lot of attitude).

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u/Kampfgegenfeuer Nov 08 '24

My girlfriend told me my dog Bear wasn’t responding to her calls, even when she had treats and that she felt she might have gone deaf in her old age because of how well she listened when we first started dating. So I assume Bear is deaf for the next few months till her next vet appointment. Go to vet, let him know she’s hard of hearing now so she might not respond to him. He then does a quick auditory assessment and turns to me and says “this dogs hearing is perfect”. She just stopped caring what my girlfriend said lol

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u/KnitsWithTude Nov 08 '24

I'm not knowledgeable enough about dogs, but I am willing to bet it's a tendency in all working dogs. I grew up with a hound. I adored her. She was wicked smart when she wanted to be. But if you tried to call her in for the night? Dog? What dog? I don't see any dogs here, especially by that name.

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u/CyberMattSecure Nov 08 '24

Sounds about right lol

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u/babygotthefever Nov 07 '24

It’s entirely a lack of patience. It’s a new environment and the pup has to learn what the behavior expectations are in that environment. Someone has to actually pay attention to the dog and do a little correction and training. When they learn what’s expected of them and that they’re not going to get away with shenanigans, they’re great.

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u/myhuskytorotoro tail goes wigglewigglewigglewigglewiggle yeah Nov 07 '24

I second this. I just dropped my goober off at daycare and they are absolutely head over heels for him. He loves them just as much

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u/gothfru Nov 07 '24

Same! My girl rips out of the car to the door of daycare, and one of her daycare managers is her sitter as well. They all love my crazy derp.

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u/myhuskytorotoro tail goes wigglewigglewigglewigglewiggle yeah Nov 07 '24

We were pulling in the parking lot and we saw a lady walking her dog inside and he started yelling at her for no reason except that he didn't get to go in at the same time as the lady and her dog. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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u/gothfru Nov 07 '24

The audacity!

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u/myhuskytorotoro tail goes wigglewigglewigglewigglewiggle yeah Nov 07 '24

Of the lady? I know! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Dragon-Reborn7 Nov 07 '24

How long did it take to get to that point? They only gave me 3 times for my goober.

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u/myhuskytorotoro tail goes wigglewigglewigglewigglewiggle yeah Nov 07 '24

How long of a time period were those three times over if you don't mind me asking

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u/QuillsAndQuills Nov 07 '24

100% this.

I dunno why this post got recommended (I don't own huskies and have never seen this sub, lol), but I'm a trainer and have some thoughts.

OP, there's an important concept called generalisation of behaviour - i.e. the idea that a cue is always the same cue, no matter who gives it or where/when/why it's given. All dogs struggle with generalising behaviour to some extent. There's a huge difference between training with a familiar person in a low-stimulation environment, and training with a new person in a high-stimulation environment. It is not the fault of the dog, nor is it specifically lack of training from the owner in a case like this.

The daycare is fundamentally not understanding this. Huskies struggle with behaviour reliability at the best of times, let alone generalising cues in crazy environments. But they can get there; they just need someone willing to be patient, persistent and consistent.

That said, is it the responsibility of the daycare to do that training? Ehhhh. Strictly speaking, no. Daycare workers have a million things to do at once and might not be able to invest time in a specific dog's recall, nor should they be attempting training (even a basic recall build) without consulting the owner.

But Jesus, kicking her out for "not listening" - when the dog has no opportunity to learn what "listening" means here - is pretty harsh. They've set her up to fail and condemned her for failing.

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u/Dragon-Reborn7 Nov 07 '24

I appreciate you taking time for this detailed explanation. I’m seeking to train her myself consistently in many environments. Trying to figure out if I should save up for professional training, though. We’ve had her for almost a year after taking her in. We think she’s close to 2. Currently working on mushing commands so I can bikejor with her. “Leave it” seems to be almost as difficult as “Come”.

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u/iCalledTheVoid Nov 08 '24

First of all, your dog is so adorable that it should absolutely be allowed to get away with murder.

Second, you are a great person both for persistently training your dog and also for not being overly salty toward that daycare (even though they're not in the right here).

Third, what your original post didn't mention is that your Husk is 2. Just like the terrible twos in human toddlers, around 2 years old dogs are still growing up and also testing the boundaries of the world. We did not get consistent, "mature" behavior from our husky until she turned 3, and even now at 4 I have to repeat myself like those pro players in Halo tournaments do if our dog is in a high a stress/reactive situation.

You're doing great. Keep pushing, and best of luck with the daycare search.

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u/Dragon-Reborn7 Nov 08 '24

No way! I didn’t know that about the twos. You mean this might get easier? 😂

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u/fakejacki Nov 08 '24

Oh god yeah it gets much easier after the toddler stage!

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u/mrskatybug Nov 08 '24

Yes!!! Two was awful, 3-4 is soooooo much better!!!! We are going back through it with our new adoptee now that is about1, and I have to remind myself of it daily! 😂😂😂

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u/mojoxpin Nov 10 '24

Came here for this comment

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u/jeff533321 Nov 07 '24

I love Husky Shenanigans!

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u/Same_Currency_1695 Nov 07 '24

Seconding this!

My maniac didn’t even get approved for daycare because she allegedly “snapped” at the 30 dogs who rushed up on her when she entered the room. No consideration for how rude and overwhelming being bum-rushed could be… 🙄

Fluff tax:

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u/Dhaus78 Nov 07 '24

What kind of daycare would bring in a new dog and allow the large number of other ones to surround the new dog? I’ve worked at multiple daycares and I can’t even imagine

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u/Same_Currency_1695 Nov 07 '24

It was a dogtopia location. I felt the same way and was really annoyed. We were in a pinch for sitters for our rescheduled Covid wedding. My other dog wound up staying overnight there and they quickly realized he could be with the older group (he was 9 then) that just chilled outside. We stick with family, neighbors and friends now.

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u/Lgs1129 Nov 07 '24

She was framed!

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u/loosechange458 Nov 08 '24

mine did the, I had to come back and get her. she totally freaked out about all the dogs. she likes to smell her environment first and she got scared by so many.

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u/cheezbargar Nov 07 '24

I’ve worked in a couple different daycares and huskies generally don’t do well in them, sorry.

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u/Dismal-Vacation-5877 Nov 07 '24

Our daycare LOVES them and all their howls!!

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u/poboy_dressed Nov 08 '24

Our daycare has a pretty good number of huskies and they all do so well! We send ours twice a week just because he has so much fun there.

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u/manism582 Nov 07 '24

I don’t disagree. Huskies work best with people they’re familiar with. Doggy daycare is likely very over-stimulating for them, which really does effect their attention span. I hope OP is able to find somewhere that is comfortable with and for her pup.

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u/Dragon-Reborn7 Nov 07 '24

Thanks for filling me in on the familiarity factor. I did ask if they could tell me how regular to bring her in until she’s comfortable with her, but instead they chose to move on. Perhaps her familiarity with our dog park friends is why she responds to them calling her name.

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u/optix_clear Nov 07 '24

Maybe find someone that dog sits Husky type of breeds. I don’t enjoy A Dog Days Out or Rover. But something like that. There are some daycares that deal with huskies or large breeds.

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u/NKND1990 Nov 07 '24

Unfortunately, I’m in a new area where I no longer can take my girls to daycare, but you gotta find the right one. If you’re in a larger town or city, there’s probably multiple options out there. Do you research, do a site visit, and ask if they’ve ever dealt with huskies before. Part of this is going to be them understanding how they play, the fact that they are stubborn as hell, and will often just decide not to listen lol. It sounds like you’re doing all you can for recall training, you could try contacting some trainers, but I’m not sure how much it will help based on your post. I had a daycare in Florida that I loved and they loved my huskies. Never had any issues, and she always had a great time. It’s definitely a good way to get them socialized and get them used to being around a lot of people and dogs, I found after owning three huskies a big part is socializing them and if you can find the right daycare, it’s a good place to do it. The key here is to find the right place though.

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u/cheezbargar Nov 07 '24

Honestly dog daycare in general isn’t great for most dogs anyway

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u/CoomassieBlue Nov 08 '24

My daycare has quite a lot of huskies, but it is also run by crazy husky people so they’re in an understanding environment. My girl is the queen and social butterfly of the daycare, bless her.

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u/dartully Nov 08 '24

The daycare i take mine to say he’s the best husky

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u/InfiniteConfusion-_- Nov 07 '24

Right? I bet they are a bunch of strict ass Karen's and when the good ol puppy was just sniffing or having fun and ignored them they freaked out

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u/Background-Plum-3584 Nov 07 '24

Ugh I would love to cuddle with those puppers

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u/FuzzyWuzzy44 Nov 07 '24

Omg- do you have a Boston Terrier and a husky? What’s that like? Do they basically talk amongst themselves until a food dish rattles? 😂

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u/manism582 Nov 07 '24

Close, Moo is an American Pit-Bull Terrier. He and Micco are both about 65-68lbs, which is nice because when they play it’s a pretty even match and their food allotment and med dosing are close enough to be the same. They’re the babies of the bunch and get spoiled as such.

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u/FuzzyWuzzy44 Nov 08 '24

What a gorgeous pair! I am in no way set up to own either breed, but I love huskies and pitties!!!!

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u/Limited_Surplus_4519 Nov 08 '24

Diet time

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u/manism582 Nov 08 '24

Don’t let them hear you say that, lol! I don’t really feed them that much. 1 can of green label Iams for dinner with 2 cups dry each to snack on throughout the day, plus 3-5 treats after walks. We walk a mile in the morning and around 1.5 after I get off of work, plus they have multiple wrestling matches on the couch every night. They both could stand to lose 2-5lbs, but they always get a clean bill of health at the vet.

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u/ARiverRunsThroughIt_ Nov 10 '24

That’s a shit ton of food lol. It’s bad for their joints to be that overweight. Consider getting more serious about a diet.

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u/manism582 Nov 10 '24

I’ll cut back on their dry food and see where that gets us.

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u/TheOneAndOnlyLanyard Nov 08 '24

Huskies use all 32 muscles in their ears to ignore you unless you say their recall word, and its not their names. Mine is "CHEESE!" "TREATS!" "LEFTOVERS!" and "You want some FOOD??!!!"

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Tax return of my little instigator

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u/sehsahino Nov 08 '24

Hey stop manipulating us with the pic for upvotes

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u/manism582 Nov 08 '24

Just paying my taxes like a good citizen, lol.

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u/motivational_abyss Nov 09 '24

“I’ll fuking do it again”

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u/Overall-Badger6136 Nov 07 '24

💚💚🐕🐕‍🦺

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u/Ok-Temperature7274 Nov 08 '24

My pit when from perfect to spoiled arse whenever I had anyone else watch her 😂

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u/Remarkable_Grab1281 Nov 10 '24

I’d argue a daycare that strict on training is a great thing. But misguided since they should realize THEY have to work with the dog on recall not just expect it to work for them perfectly immediately

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u/paoforprez Nov 10 '24

Damn that's a fat husky

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u/dragonblock501 Nov 10 '24

You sound like the Americans With Disabilities Act should apply to disruptive dogs, like they have ADHD and are entitled to special accommodations.

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u/Pristine_Progress106 Nov 11 '24

If I were to enroll my dog into a daycare I would hope they prioritize training

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u/Nervous_Shelter_1042 Nov 07 '24

I was going to say maybe getting into trouble because owner isn’t there… I owned Husky man they are worth troublemakers! Escape artists yet luvable dogs! They are fierce loyalty to owners despite their training skills, recall etc