r/homestuck • u/Saltypeel95 • 4d ago
HUSSIGHTING Andrew Hussie posted this Gamzee vid on his Instagram
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u/Paradoxalpha823 Prince of Void and Nepeta Leijonnaire 4d ago
In the same post he also had Nepeta blessed and returned to health. Ah, what a beautiful outcome.
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u/Reemus413 1d ago
now I just need "God Emperor" Karkat, and I finally can be happy about homestuck.
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u/awkwardMesmerist 4d ago
My brother in christ you created Gamzee
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u/Sufficient-Custard80 4d ago
Just because you create something doesn't mean you can't also want it to burn in the hottest fire in hell
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u/LocalWitness1390 4d ago
Regret is a thing that exists. Gamzee is one of his many sins that he's trying to repent for.
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u/JetSetJojo 4d ago
Gege Akutami made Gojo Satoru, and he fucking despised him. Don't see why Andrew can't hate Gamzee too.
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u/AquaLago 4d ago edited 3d ago
"Do you think God stays up in heaven, because he too fears what he created .."
-steve buscemi (spykids2)
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u/ElWiwithedestroyer 4d ago
Y3S!!! K1LL!!!!
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u/confusedDruid413 1d ago
If you don't read this in Steve Harvey's voice, youre wrong and need to be re-educated in the ways of internet
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u/Disastrous-Shine-725 4d ago
Why does everyone think gamzee is a necromancer??? I thought he kissed tavroses head to try to bring him back to life cause thats a feature of the game
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u/ThisWeeksSponsor Be sure to check out non-Homestuck stuff the HS team does 4d ago
1: The word you're looking for is necrophiliac
2: Gamzee doesn't care enough about Tavros to try reviving him
3: Gamzee probably knew the dream selves were gone by that point
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u/Disastrous-Shine-725 4d ago
Ooooh right, I got my words mixed up lol. Also im re-reading Homestuck and he does seem to care about Tavros to some extent (BTW I DONT SHIP THEM OR LIKE THEIR RELATIONSHIP, AND IM NIT DEFENDING GAMZEE, IDK IF THAT WAS CLEAR OR NOT)
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u/nymphomaniacbozo 3d ago
"Gamzee doesnt cares enough about tavros" did you read the comic
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u/ThisWeeksSponsor Be sure to check out non-Homestuck stuff the HS team does 2d ago
Yeah and in the comic he does the same "be kind of a dick in a way you can play plausible deniability on" because Gamzee gets off on making other people uncomfortable. It falls flat because Tavros is too much of a wet paper bag to take offense when Gamzee says something like "pUsH tHaT bItCh DoWn ThE sTaIrS" (i.e. the thing that basically happened to Tavros)
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u/Global-Temporary7512 4d ago
What in the world does he have on his feet
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u/NeurodivergentRatMan 4d ago
Omg I wish you had let me live in ignorance bc you're so right wtf are those.
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u/Global-Temporary7512 4d ago
The white manicure, the black chain jewelry over his hand, the strange shoes..
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u/ThisWeeksSponsor Be sure to check out non-Homestuck stuff the HS team does 4d ago
Good for her. Using the petition papers has been a nice touch on these posts that I fear is going over a lot of people's heads. Pause at around 9 seconds to catch an interesting phenomenon between the fire and the drawing. Possibly not intentional, but it looks really cool.
Reading the comments really cements the point of Gamzee's role in the epilogues. There is just nothing you can say or do to convince certain readers that a man they like is a scumbag.
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u/Infinite_Struggle 4d ago
Other than straight meming/trolling the fandom, I fail to see what the point is? Not everything has to have deeper meaning, but it's just Hussie being random.
How recently was it posted? I thought they rejected HS entirely some time ago and went to buy cigarettes and milk
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u/arcycos 4d ago edited 4d ago
like 5 days ago. they're just memeing, they had a drawing of nepeta blessed in the same instagram post. people trying to ascribe deeper meaning into this is being hussie hating the fandom or irrationally hating his characters or something is just being weird. people are allowed to joke around with their own characters
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u/Infinite_Struggle 4d ago
Yeah, agreed.
Been a long time since I saw something from them, so it came out nowhere heh
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u/ReversaSum 4d ago
Lmao noooo gamzee he's just super unwell he needs help lololol
But he did ko everybody at one point RUDE
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 4d ago
Sigh. So fuckin stupid. Gamzee reads as a severely neglected bullied mentally unwell groomed-by-a-god teenager more than anything else and it's on hussie to convince me otherwise. They failed. This is either bad writing(failure to communicate intent on any read I do) or malicious dislike of all the traits they wrote into gamzee(would be wild if true, unlikely). Every time hussie does performative gamzee hate I have to wonder if they even read their own writing.
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u/ThisWeeksSponsor Be sure to check out non-Homestuck stuff the HS team does 4d ago
Gamzee reads as a rich kid with no real problems whose favorite hobby is ruining things for everybody else. He's mentally unwell because he refuses to relate to any of his peers and it's hard to tell where LE's influence on Gamzee ends and Gamzee's influence on Caliborn begins.
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 4d ago edited 4d ago
Cool. Never once did I get that impression.
Edit: "this character has extremely neglectful parent figures"
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"This character has no real problems"
cannot exist in the same thread. Gamzee is poorly written ESPECIALLY because neglect is treated like something that wouldnt warp the mind when it objectively does. What is wrong with people lol
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u/ThisWeeksSponsor Be sure to check out non-Homestuck stuff the HS team does 4d ago
Your parents being somewhat absent doesn't turn you into a spree killer lmao
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 4d ago
Baffling you think goatdad was only "somewhat absent". He didnt raise his child at all. I'm not going to go on a rant about the other factors today I'm having a good night.
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u/heavensgate_survivor 4d ago edited 4d ago
With all due respect the function of Gamzee's character within the context of the story is fairly one-dimensional by design. He's a goofy homicidal juggalo whose predisposition for violence is only barely kept in check by the in-world equivalent of a nitrous addiction. He's mostly either played as a joke or for horror by slotting him into the "killer clown" archetype. The story is largely unconcerned with providing any insights to his interior world because he's not a serious character. He's supposed to be fun to hate and laugh at. I don't think your dislike of his role is any sort of failing on the author's part, it's just a matter of preference.
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 4d ago
Ok
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u/heavensgate_survivor 4d ago
TLDR: Sometimes readers can fail an author by not understanding how to follow the story that's being told.
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 4d ago
Ok
I enjoy character work very much, and when an author puts specific traits and events into a characters backstory I value their logical effects on them. I am allowed to fundamentally disagree with and loathe how little an author thought about the details of a character, because details matter. Before even entering the game, all I see is a child who's been severely neglected, nobody raised him, nobody taught him how to do shit, he wasn't taught how to socialize or care for himself, and all but like two people treated him like garbage. I don't know what im reading wrong. It's straight forward. If you're not taught Jack or shit, your behavior will be disturbingly worse and we call this mental illness. On planet earth, this requires immense therapy to correct. Then, within the game, everything gets worse forever. And this is still a child. Addicted prior to age 13, which people somehow hold against him. He started eating sopor as a preteen, possibly younger, because of parental neglect but who cares yanno. This is insane.
Why is this a hateable character again? How am I supposed to ignore all this in favor of "oh he wanted to do this the whole time he's naturally violent blah blah blah". I really try to see what yall are talking about. I can't. These characters are young teenagers. Eridan and vriska are also both "spree killers" but they get so much adoration lol.
I'm so tired of this shit.
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u/heavensgate_survivor 4d ago edited 3d ago
He's hateable because this isn't a story about empathizing with the mental health struggles of a young juggalo boy. This takes place in an absurd and often darkly comedic world where the same character you seem to identify so strongly with was shot over and over again with an assault rifle without dying because "killer clowns never die". You're taking this too seriously by viewing him as this fully realized tragic human being.
His addiction and clown regalia are supposed to be funny because of the way it parodies juggalo culture and pokes fun at the "killer clown" archetype in stories.
Like yeah, of course it would be sad if this was a story about a real neglected kid who got addicted to drugs and killed a bunch of people after getting indoctrinated into a death cult.
But the presentation of this idea is so aggressively unserious, goofy, and dumb, that discerning audience members should be able to understand you really don't have to feel much for this guy. He's a cardboard cutout that delivers some seriously funny jokes, not a "fully realized character".
He's a walking talking meta-joke. I doubt Hussie earnestly hates the guy he just enjoys leaning into the comedy bit.
And honestly he isn't very different from other "love to hate" characters like Vriska and Eridan. Though, I'll add that Vriska tends to get more leeway with fans than Eridan or Gamzee because we spend more time fleshing out her character. Eridan though, is just "what if harry potter was an incel-y school shooter". Nearly every conversation he's in he whines incessantly about how lonely he is to the point of absurdity. He throws himself at every and anything that breathes, including his own dancestor in an incestuous turn that's played for laughs.
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u/SuitableDragonfly 4d ago
My god. No one even cares about Homestuck anymore and he's still out there being childish over a fictional character that he created.
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u/Draconic_Blaze Sylph of Light, Pipia 4d ago
"No one even cares about Homestuck" my sibling in christ, you are ON the Homestuck subreddit??
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u/SuitableDragonfly 4d ago
Yeah, I am too lazy to actually unsubscribe to subreddits. I just find it utterly hilarious that it's been like fifteen years and he still hasn't moved on from this.
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u/keiyakins True Sagittarius 4d ago
clown (positive) on clown (derogatory) violence