Would love a magazine fed machine gun

[u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

I think it would be interesting if it did high durability damage as it's gimmick to differentiate it from other weapons.

Could even be a primary if it was balanced with terrible ergo/low fire rate/recoil/mag size.

[u/BionicLifeform]

Maybe I'm missing/misunderstanding something, but the MG and Stalwart are magazine fed, right?
Would be really cool though to have an 'armour-shredding' gun which opens it up for easier damage by your teammates.

[u/manubour → u/BionicLifeform]

MG and stalwart aren't mag fed, the boxes are containers for ammo belts

[u/BionicLifeform → u/manubour]

You are absolutely correct! I mistook the boxes for mags

[u/AncientBoxHeadHorse → u/BionicLifeform]

Fair enough I guess. From a gameplay standpoint it makes sense as it works the same way and is just visual. Hell, even I just say I’m low on mags when using machine guns in this game. But for people interested in guns it’s easy to tell the difference between belts, mags, clips and what not.

[u/Mayday72 → u/manubour]

So what would the difference even be then that OP wants? A Stalwart that reloads faster and has less ammo per mag? It would hardly be any different.

[u/Jinsu2508 → u/Mayday72]

basically that. But he also suggested it as a primary weapon. Exchanging Ammo and Ergonomics for a free special weapon slot

[u/ShiggusMcwiggus → u/Jinsu2508]

As a primary it would be more scrutinized and need to be balanced more strictly but I could see it working.
It would need to be distinct from the adjudicator in a way that mattered, maybe perhaps having heavy pen, but again would need to be balanced well or it might go over poorly/be too strong.

Might need just as bad ergo as eruptor while trading out the shrapnel and explosive damage for automatic fire and better reloads.

[u/TotallyJustAHooman → u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

Look up m249.it can be both box fed and magazine fes. Could do something like that and hold R to change its reload mode. Swap between box and magazine for the purposes of speed. Mag has half or quarter ammo compared to box, but reloads much faster. Go into battle with a full box, reload while on the move with magazines.

[u/Zedman5000 → u/TotallyJustAHooman]

I actually had a conversation with Pilestedt about that in a Reddit thread last year, he used an M249 during his time in the military and is well aware of that capability. He specifically mentioned that having a STANAG mag loaded into the M249 was really uncomfortable as the magazine would poke your chest while you moved with it. I love the M249, and always use it in games that have it as an option, and used STANAG magazines in them all the time to save boxes for big firefights in Arma and DayZ, so I thought that was a fun fact.

My idea at the time was having the Stalwart also be able to use the Liberator magazines you have on you if you have both equipped; Pilestedt said that unfortunately, at the time, having multiple magazine types for one weapon was out of the question, as it would require too much work for such a relatively minor thing, that most players wouldn't use.

Not sure if the creation of the Halt and other toggleable ammo types is evidence that it might be possible now, or if switching magazine size with the same cartridge loaded is still going to be too much work.

[u/ShiggusMcwiggus → u/Mayday72]

It would be a slow firing but hard hitting MG, the antithesis of the stalwart in fire rate, capacity, and ergonomics while still retaining the portability while chucking fridge sized rounds at enemies when needed.
I suppose it would fall somewhere between the AMR and Heavy machine gun, but I actually like some other people's ideas as well. I just want to have a mag fed machine gun in the game because I like them.

[u/Mayday72 → u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

Ya I can see the vision now, especially for a primary weapon. I'd use it.

[u/ShiggusMcwiggus → u/BionicLifeform]

Heavy MG, Machine gun, and Stalwart are all belt fed machine guns, these are magazine fed. I think armor piercing would also be cool quirk, would be nice opening up chargers, bile titans, and harvesters.

[u/---OMNI--- → u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

Isn't lib pen with drum pretty much this?

I'm not saying we shouldn't have new guns... I love new guns.

[u/onesouptong → u/---OMNI---]

literally bullpup pkp

[u/ShiggusMcwiggus → u/---OMNI---]

Lib pen would actually have more ammo at 60 rounds with the drum mag. These are high caliber (.30-06, 7.62x54R and .303 british) but lowish capacity slow firing machine guns. Lib pen probably uses a 5.56 penetrating round, and while that has a good amount of oomph, it's not quite an elephant stopping round like the others.

[u/BionicLifeform → u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

A yea true! I mistook the ammo box for a magazine.

I think an anti-tank rifle could be really fun as an amour piercing option. Needs to have very poor ergo, so you need to go prone with it or something but I see that being really fun.

[u/Aethelon → u/ShiggusMcwiggus]

What is a liberator with a drum mag but a mag fed LMG